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RE: OK I get it... you are not a "Barbie" - 4/15/2007 1:33:49 PM

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I haven't met ANY really drop dead gorgeous hunka hunka burnin' handsome Greek God submissive men that I can recall.

Well, OK, I did meet one who made me feel faint and hot all over, but he turned out to have a HUGE drug problem so that didn't last two dates.

I have, however, met a bazillion sub males who were a little overweight, a little out of shape, not unforgettably handsome, in short, they weren't Ken Dolls.

The funny thing is, it's the dumpy, rough featured, overweight, out of shape guys sitting across from Me at the table during dinner who are making fools of themselves getting a wet spot over the 20 year old size DD 18 inch waitress that either walks by or sets down his waterglass.

Look at TV for an hour, go to any Movie theater, and you'll see men who are absolutely common everyday johns all over the TV screen, yet 99% of the women are strictly T&A Barbie models.

I was a pretty hot 18 year old myself, once upon a time. Doesn't mean I'm a Barbie look alike today, though.

Why do women put use the line that they aren't Barbie like an 'in your face challenge'?

Because they want to meet a man who's not fantasizing for one.

Instead of bristling at it, why don't you try a different approach and see how well it goes over:
"well, that's a good thing because I'm not looking for Barbie, I'm looking for someone real"....

I'm betting it flies pretty well.

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RE: OK I get it... you are not a "Barbie" - 4/15/2007 7:05:13 PM

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I'm not a tall, blonde, swimsuit model, with breasts large enough to cause Me back problems by the time I hit 45.

Seriously.... what woman on this site is a Barbie???

NO ONE!

But what if there were? Why would it bother you if men responded to them overwhelmly?

And here is another double standard come to light, not from this poster but from the thread in general... Women can have their idealized Dom in mind but when Men have their idealized Sub in mind it is discriminatory!

I doubt any Dom on this site would want a "Barbie" for his submissive.

I would agree, there is nothing wrong with having a preference for the type of person that physically appeals to you. I have my preferences myself. I think that the trouble ensues when one thinking that all of a certain type should not even try to be a submissive. I read one dominant outright tell an overwieght sub she should not even try to find a dom because of her weight.

What I find very amusing is when a dominant has "Want wieght, height proportionate submissive that is in excellent shape, 20 years younger than me, bright and intellectual." And then they have enough nerve to complain that no one responds to their emails, and they have been here all of two weeks without finding what it is they seek

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I am calling "PINK" here I tell ya! Now that silly chorus is stuck in my
head! julia, are you feeling a bit sadistic today?

And I thought I was being kind by not posting the chorus for that very reason..smiles

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RE: OK I get it... you are not a "Barbie" - 4/15/2007 7:20:11 PM

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Perhaps they relate more to this concept?

http://www.rdrop.com/users/wyvern/data/kajira.barbie.html

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RE: OK I get it... you are not a "Barbie" - 4/15/2007 7:29:35 PM

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I always took the approach that I would feel silly demanding my partner be a svelte barbie aerobics instructor if I was an overweight and poorly dressed slob.

Of course, I picked martial arts and self defense and soccer as my means of staying in shape, which means I am a reasonably healthy, somewhat muscular, beaten up cripple of a man.

Just me, could be wrong, but there you go.

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RE: OK I get it... you are not a "Barbie" - 4/15/2007 8:34:19 PM

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barbie- tho an innocent toy- is a reflection of a consumeristic society, gone arye. barbies big problem, which shoes maaatch which purse. other then that she has a dream house and ken, lots of friends- life is peachy. CUTTTTTTTTTTTT.

many internet users have the illusion that the "perfect" ,ate is just click away. if you talk to someone online 30 years or older- and they have no baggage-run! at the same time recognize that YOU have baggage. [too]

basically- what you see in public is what is online. In some areas- say rural pa- we weigh more then, say trendy LA area. if a model pops out like in the car commercials RUN! it aint real.

here is where the mini lecture comes in. when i think of how messed up the gay thing is...and then think of all the straight folks I know- my head spins.

as a bystander, i see men treat men treat woman like property- like crap. and to be fair- ive seen some catty woman who have used catlike moves to obtain their means.....

then i see all the broken homes.... it is sad really.

ppl in general have drifted from the meaning of life-[assuming there is one] get caugtht up in their life- when things get hard- they stray. much of which is over glitter and mirrors- smoke and mirrors.

WHEN you do score a date DONT drag the sorry azz story of your life into it. "my ex screwed me over"= BIGG mistake. if asked briefly mention facts- without any sense of bitterness. if you are bitter- you are not ready to date.

next- be realistic. the men with high power jobs-status- etc- are going to get the trophies ladies.

i am not a woman- but even in todays world- many are afraid to walk past dark- and rape- etc.

woman have a tuff walk to walk- and men who did not learn manners from there mamma- ought to wake up.

next- dont plan on CHANGING a person. it dont work.

capitalism works via playing on ouur fears. fear of bad health, bad breath, bad reputation.
if we are insecure- we consume more.

when couples separate and form 2 households it is actually good for the economy- as then 2 households are furnished- utitied etc.

but what about the larger good?

at one time we were tribel. call it a day when ppl knew their neighbors and sat on the front porch. ppl were not glued to teck toys all day long.

now we are bots programmed by madison avenue to consume till we drop.

my suggestion? cancel your cable en masse.

stop going to the mall.

breath. appreciate a sunset- a rose, a breath of fresh air.

--end of rant.

i give myslef pahunkboys informal post of the day award.
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RE: OK I get it... you are not a "Barbie" - 4/16/2007 8:05:21 AM

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In reguards to what both Stella and Tempting had to say...
i personally could not agree with both of you more. i think you both hit the nail on the head.
As for the use of "I'm not a Barbie", i have used this and my intention was to say " I am not the sterotypical perfect woman" i always share lots of pics with guys before i meet them(if i do) and point blank ask them what they see and that they understand i am not a little woman. i don't have a problem with it if they don't. There is nothing worse than that look of disappointment on a guys face when he is not getting what he thinks he was... it leaves me feeling bad. So i prevent this as best i can.
I often get asked by Dom's "how do you feel about yourself?" the answer is i like me for what i am, sure there are things i would change but i do love the person inside and i have to do that before i can change anything on the outside. Personally i think guys that like bigger women are a special breed, they look beyond packaging and into who the person in on the inside.. Most of them just want you to be confindent and yourself... This could hold true for men who like littler women, i have no theory on that cause i do not fall into that catagory. This i will say, there are alot of superficial, package people out there, if the package of the person is not perfect they want nothing to do with the person within, this goes for all body types.
Think about it for a minute...

avani

PS please not this is just my opinion from my experience and my observations!!!

I disagree with the statement in red. They really don't look beyond the packaging. They just like the package. A good personality is a plus for them but they want that extra girth, they want the breasts, the booty, the legs, the belly and all the softness that comes with it and if it is wrapped around a loving individual...all the better for them.

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RE: OK I get it... you are not a "Barbie" - 4/16/2007 8:12:07 AM

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Well... I get about 5 or 6 emails and IMs every day or so from guys telling me I am fat and that no "Master" would want me because I'm not fit........ Dang it... I don't want a Master anyway! *shrugs* I'm proud to not be a Barbie... I'd be dead if I were! They have proven that it is not physically possible to be! I eat and live healthier than lots of girls I know who are almost that skinny, and *shrugs* who with any worth to their concern really cares what we look like? All a "look" proves is the actual outcome from a possible mixture of two peoples' DNA before us, our parents! Besides.... however the heck many years down the road we'll all look like crap anyway wrinkled and such... and the shortly after that we'll all be rotting undeground or ashes scattered depending on our choices.... either way not pretty!

Not me baby, I have enough FAT to fill in the wrinkles for many years to come....

People complain about fat...but seriously....they get the fat sucked out of their thighs and have it injected into their faces......

I need no injections, mine fills in naturally.....Can I get an AMEN for no needles?!?!?!?

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RE: OK I get it... you are not a "Barbie" - 4/16/2007 8:14:40 AM

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Amen!

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RE: OK I get it... you are not a "Barbie" - 4/16/2007 8:19:34 AM

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Actually FatDomDaddy - I prefer my women slender, long legged and with small boobs (puffy nipples and really long hair are a bonus). But what really turns me on is a woman with an active mind - who uses it and has wit, intelligence, makes me laugh.... all of that gets top marks and body type comes second. The only thing I really had an issue with is when she's very, very heavy (200lb +)

And I've always presumed that "I am not a Barbie" meant that the woman wasn't just a plastic (probably enhanced) bimbo.

How short does a woman have to be to be "very very heavy at 200 lbs"?

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RE: OK I get it... you are not a "Barbie" - 4/16/2007 8:37:23 AM

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Yikes... I always thought that 'I am not a Barbie' meant that 'I am not consumed by superficiality, bleach blonde or insistant on adorable matching outfits'. That is a 'Barbie' to me, a lil bit ditzy and bubbleheaded.. a plastic person with no depth. For me it never meant measurements of a physical nature but measurements of the mental makeup of a person and a compulsion for matching accessories.

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RE: OK I get it... you are not a "Barbie" - 4/16/2007 3:39:50 PM

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Yikes... I always thought that 'I am not a Barbie' meant that 'I am not consumed by superficiality, bleach blonde or insistant on adorable matching outfits'. That is a 'Barbie' to me, a lil bit ditzy and bubbleheaded.. a plastic person with no depth. For me it never meant measurements of a physical nature but measurements of the mental makeup of a person and a compulsion for matching accessories.

I am starting to think its both. And there does seem to be a backlash against attractive women in general.

I should point out that many times the "ditzy bubblehead" stuff is just an act or role if you will, it is just as much a part of their kink/fetish/fantasy as ren outfits or pony tails or little girl personas are to some others.

Maybe a good question to ask is why so many women disrespect a woman's choice to endulge a ditzy bimbo role withing the "scene"?

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RE: OK I get it... you are not a "Barbie" - 4/16/2007 4:14:43 PM

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I have known a lot of real men in my life. Not phoney internet make believe puffed up profile males but most normal everyday guys. And to a one, I can never recall one saying "Man, I'd like to tag a Barbie?" Just about every man I have ever met likes their women with curves.

So why do women use the line "I am not a Barbie" like it is some kind of in your face challange?

I wanna tag a Barbie.

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