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ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007
Those women that fall for the weak pickup lines.. arent really falling for the line , in my opinion. If you have an interest in someone any pick up line they give you will probably work. if you dont the best pick up line wont.
That's the point I was trying to make. The best and the worst pick up lines work only when the person they're being used on has an interest in the people useing them in the first place. The fact that she was not drawn to that pick up line showed her more about herself than about him. Lots of people use pick up lines. Sometimes they work; sometimes they don't. And just SOMETIMES... even though they worked, a simple glance would have done the trick too because that's where the target of the pick up line was wanting to go in the first place.
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ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007
Then again you have to remember this isnt a vanilla relationship, we are dealing with. When a dom says i wanna fuck you and get it out of the way so i can concentrate on being a master you have to wonder if its someone you want to fuck.
I think the decision to fuck is something that is made long before the pick up line is thrown out there - whether the person issuing the pick up line is a dominant or not. In the scenario I gave earlier about a similar pick up line (story) I was given, the end result was very different from the OP's. I knew what he was doing. I thought the story was cute, but I'd have gone with him, with or without the story.
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ORIGINAL: Slavetrainer2007
Look at whats involved in many/most D/s relationships. Subs are put in vulnerable postions during sex/play Is this someone one you would let play with you when you vulnerable? Someone you could trust? I dont think he really wants to dom, i think he wants to use you for sex. Ive seen it to many times.
Again, my answer to your questions here would be a resounding "YES!" Certainly I've been given pick up lines and walked away laughing. Certainly, like the OP, I've been disdainful of the men who've issued some of those pick up lines. But when I've actually sat down to think about what was so funny or disdainful about these men, I've had to admit that there were a lot of other things beyond a simple pick up line. The pick up lines were simply the last straw - or perhaps, you could say the confirmation of what I was already thinking.
See, in my world, for better or for worse, I like sex. I like it a LOT. My relationship has a lot of sex intrinsic to it. I'd spent nearly a year in a completely sex-less marriage and prior to that, it'd been 17 years of missionary only sex. Then, I went through a long period of time (make that a LOOOOONG period of time) with no sex whatsoever. Sex was/is/will always be important to me. And yes, it was/is/will always be just as important as the D/s and the SM and all that is to me. So, when I saw the person who I fell for, the person I serve, the person I call Master, the person I LOVE, at an event that previous weekend, it was the culmination of nearly two years of watching the doors to see if he'd come in (I'd met him for a few minutes two years prior and if he'd have used that pick up line on me THEN, I'd have gone with him in an instant then too).
When I watched him drive past the restaurant on the way to make the turn around to get into the parking lot, I'd known THEN that if he made ANY sort of suggestion for play or sex or both, I'd be accepting (translation: racing him to the door). His pick up line was really just an interesting and humorous story. If he HADN'T suggested the hotel, I'd have been devastated.
And yes, that night, I willingly and with full awareness of what I was doing, stepped into that hotel room, out of my clothes and up against a wall, where he beat me silly and then to the bed where he fucked me royally. In nearly five years now, I've never ever - not ever - regretted my decision. And he's shown me time and again just how much of a dominant he can be. So his pick up line was never an indication of a lack of ability in the area of dominance either. It was just a pick up line.
In the end, we match. We match about as perfectly as I've ever hoped to find in someone.
And pick up lines are just pick up lines.
So, no, I don't think that you can necessarily make the jump from a play for sex and a lack of dominance (although, yes, it's certainly a possibility. There are certainly a lot of men out there claiming dominance when all they want is a piece of ass). About the only thing anyone can say with any certainty is that in the case of the OP - this one case - he was not the dominant for her.
(See, what I also like is that it places the responsibility for her decision squarely where it belongs - on her. SHE made the decision that he wasn't a good choice for her. SHE made the determination to wait. SHE made the choice between a romp in bed and the possibility for more. And in the end, when SHE makes the right decision for herself, she can be proud that this was a choice SHE made, not one that was made for her.)
juliet
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