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bandit25 -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:47:12 AM)

Sounds like motivation to me.  I've read enough of your posts to know that you love him and it sounds like the love is returned.  You know him best mixie.




mixielicous -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:48:11 AM)

lol, no of course not.. it just means H3 will threaten too to motivate me again rofl [;)]




mistoferin -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:49:16 AM)

Mixie, to me it has superficial and shallow written all over it. If your partner is concerned over your weight or is trying to support you in a concern that you have over it....they say "I'd really like to support you in this"....they don't dangle a carrot in front of your face or bribe you by saying "lose the weight or I won't marry you".

There are not many of us in this world who maintain our high school weights for our entire lives. Metabolisms change, health issues can change things.....lots of factors.....
Most of my adult life I was pathetically thin....about 85 lbs. I got sick and gained weight. Not to the point of morbid obesity or anything but I could certainly stand to lose 25 or 30 lbs. Fortunately for me though, the people in my life love and accept me for who I am....not the box I'm wrapped in.




mixielicous -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:49:26 AM)


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ORIGINAL: puella

In my opinion mixielicious, which really means very little in the grand scheme of things, marriage should not be used as a reward or threat or incentive.

What he is saying is... he will not marry you. If the only thing that is holding him from that is 25 lbs... I, personally would not want to be married to that person.

hmmm well marriage, it is something we have been discussing a lot lately and i personally think he just put two and two together to make things easier for me




puella -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:50:33 AM)

Okay...




GeekyGirl -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:50:34 AM)

Mixi, doing it for yourself is a good thing.

But a man who witholds a wedding ring over something as superficial as a 25lbs is a loser in my book and I won't apologize for the statement.

I gained over a 100 pounds during my marriage...I'm so glad he was a decent human being who loved me for ME rather than my body.

All I can say is if you stay with this superficial person, you are making a very bad decision in my book.

You may not like the "what-if" game but those what-ifs happen to more people than you think. Better think about it..you'll regret it if you don't.




MstrssPassion -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:51:00 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mixielicous

well in the health and safety forum i found this diet and i am going to use it since no matter how hard i work i cant get the initial poundage off [i am very physical day to day and it should be starting to show, but isnt!] and plan on following it up with regular either, gym or in home workouts.. i eat healthy already, its just that i seem to be stuck in this rut, lol!


These get slim quick diets are not a solution to the long term goal of maintaining a specific weight. If you truly want to lose weight & get on track as to maintaining that weight then you have to make a complete life change as to your physical routine & your nutritional intake.

Don't get into that vicious cycle of going up & down the scale because in all reality.... this is far more detrimental to your overall health than being a mere 25 pounds over weight.

edited to add... so, did you two discuss what happens when the weight is gained back?




mixielicous -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:52:04 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: TGM

quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous

ha well this my infuriate you but i have known since day one being fat is grounds for termination [shrug]. so He claims. it doesnt bother me in the least, seeing as how, we will never really know till we get to that bridge. and considering i have been wanting to loose it for some time now maybe this is just the motivation i needed :)


Dear mixielicious,
I hope you take the time to think this through more thoroughly. Marriage is "for life" and if weight gain is "grounds for termination" then you're almost guaranteeing a divorce. A person's weight is variable through their life and there are many cases where it's not directly under their control. As geekygirl pointed out, you can gain a great deal of weight with certain illnesses or surgery (being given intravenous steroids after surgery is especially notorious for enormous and uncontrollable weight gain). I'm also suspecting that if a simple gain of 25 pounds is enough to prevent this marriage, the relationship may be better off kept as a non-committed one; thus giving you the option of being quickly and easily dismissed without the usual costs and red tape of a divorce.

wow all the silly standards so many other slaves have for grounds of termination i am SHOCKED this gets so much attention. first, we are both young, second, does anyone here actually believe this will still be the case when we are 40s and what we look like isnt as important? no i dont think so. people play all kinds of games in M/s why are some so appalling..




mixielicous -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:53:17 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous

well in the health and safety forum i found this diet and i am going to use it since no matter how hard i work i cant get the initial poundage off [i am very physical day to day and it should be starting to show, but isnt!] and plan on following it up with regular either, gym or in home workouts.. i eat healthy already, its just that i seem to be stuck in this rut, lol!


These get slim quick diets are not a solution to the long term goal of maintaining a specific weight. If you truly want to lose weight & get on track as to maintaining that weight then you have to make a complete life change as to your physical routine & your nutritional intake.

Don't get into that vicious cycle of going up & down the scale because in all reality.... this is far more detrimental to your overall health than being a mere 25 pounds over weight.

passion, i know thank you. i am especially aware of how dangerous caloric intake can be after a fasting diet. i am just utilizing it as part of my over all plan to get a jump start on things




IrishMist -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:53:46 AM)

quote:

These get slim quick diets are not a solution to the long term goal of maintaining a specific weight. If you truly want to lose weight & get on track as to maintaining that weight then you have to make a complete life change as to your physical routine & your nutritional intake.

Don't get into that vicious cycle of going up & down the scale because in all reality.... this is far more detrimental to your overall health than being a mere 25 pounds over weight.

_____________________________

MstrssPassion

I have to agree with Miss Passion here.

Without knowing more about what you are ALREADY doing to lose the weight, it's hard to offer up advice to help.




subsa -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:54:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous

D said He would marry me if i lost 25 lbs... granted, this would only peg me 5 lbs lighter than when i first met Him [my profile weight is not accurate, lol but was at the time] it would take me down to .... 120/119 [very reasonable i am only 5'4]

now.. the debate is, is He being purely superficial, or giving Himself a time span to prepare ? lol

 
perhaps its a third reason...maybe he's concerned for your health.  at 145 you're on the high end of 'normal' for your height. as we age our metabolisms slow and we (especially women) tend to gain.  as we all know, carrying too much weight sets a body up for a myriad of health problems.  so losing some weight now will put you ahead of the ageing/weight curve and should significantly lower your risk for weight related health problems.  that said, losing 25 pounds would put you at the low end of normal for your height.  low body weight (and the usually associated low body fat) has its own set of problems.  perhaps you could compromise and shoot for losing around 10-15 lbs?  in any case, the goal of losing 25 lbs could backfire.  most studies show that the most successful long term weight management tools are change in lifestyle sorts of things.  when the goal is a target number there is often a backlash once that number is reached and more times than not there is a subsequent weight gain.  in any case...good luck with your weight loss endeavor. 

[and no it was not a joke or teasing on His behalf]

the ideal trophy slave should weigh 119 ha


D's out there: would you require something like this from your slave, before even formally proposing?

i dont mind, its a great motivation to finally get on that diet!







mixielicous -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:54:55 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: bandit25

Sounds like motivation to me. I've read enough of your posts to know that you love him and it sounds like the love is returned. You know him best mixie.

thank you bandit, for not jumping on the band wagon. [8|]




Aileen68 -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:55:06 AM)

I think it's ridiculous to pretend that looks are not important in a relationship.  They are in mine.




MstrssPassion -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:55:10 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous


quote:

ORIGINAL: MstrssPassion

quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous

well in the health and safety forum i found this diet and i am going to use it since no matter how hard i work i cant get the initial poundage off [i am very physical day to day and it should be starting to show, but isnt!] and plan on following it up with regular either, gym or in home workouts.. i eat healthy already, its just that i seem to be stuck in this rut, lol!


These get slim quick diets are not a solution to the long term goal of maintaining a specific weight. If you truly want to lose weight & get on track as to maintaining that weight then you have to make a complete life change as to your physical routine & your nutritional intake.

Don't get into that vicious cycle of going up & down the scale because in all reality.... this is far more detrimental to your overall health than being a mere 25 pounds over weight.

passion, i know thank you. i am especially aware of how dangerous caloric intake can be after a fasting diet. i am just utilizing it as part of my over all plan to get a jump start on things


There is no such thing as a jump start... you didn't gain the 25 pounds over night & the reality of it is... it will take you much longer to lose it than it took you to gain it because of a tricky little thing called chemistry.




GeekyGirl -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:55:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous


quote:

ORIGINAL: TGM

quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous

ha well this my infuriate you but i have known since day one being fat is grounds for termination [shrug]. so He claims. it doesnt bother me in the least, seeing as how, we will never really know till we get to that bridge. and considering i have been wanting to loose it for some time now maybe this is just the motivation i needed :)


Dear mixielicious,
I hope you take the time to think this through more thoroughly. Marriage is "for life" and if weight gain is "grounds for termination" then you're almost guaranteeing a divorce. A person's weight is variable through their life and there are many cases where it's not directly under their control. As geekygirl pointed out, you can gain a great deal of weight with certain illnesses or surgery (being given intravenous steroids after surgery is especially notorious for enormous and uncontrollable weight gain). I'm also suspecting that if a simple gain of 25 pounds is enough to prevent this marriage, the relationship may be better off kept as a non-committed one; thus giving you the option of being quickly and easily dismissed without the usual costs and red tape of a divorce.

wow all the silly standards so many other slaves have for grounds of termination i am SHOCKED this gets so much attention. first, we are both young, second, does anyone here actually believe this will still be the case when we are 40s and what we look like isnt as important? no i dont think so. people play all kinds of games in M/s why are some so appalling..


Because marriage isn't a "game."

If he knows you want to lose weight and he wants to support you with a reward, that's fine. For example, I have been with Masters who promised to buy me a certain gift I had been wanting if I reached my weight loss goal for a certain time period. To me, that's supportive and loving.

It is NOT the same as playing games with something as serious as marriage. "Lose 25lbs and I'll buy you that new dress you want" is a supportive. "Lose 25lbs or I won't marry you" is just cruel and vicious and indicative of a shallow personality (coupled with his desire for a "trophy" slave.")




mixielicous -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:56:28 AM)

i am also starting super high nutritional supplement when i go off the diet, you can find it in health and safety forums if you search for "reliv"




GeekyGirl -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:56:43 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aileen68

I think it's ridiculous to pretend that looks are not important in a relationship.  They are in mine.


Of course they're important, especially in the inital stages. But to refuse to marry someone you've been with over  year for relatively minor  physical change indicates to me that your reason for wanting that person in your life does not transcend the physical.




KatyLied -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:57:22 AM)

quote:

D said He would marry me if i lost 25 lbs...


hmmnn, if you lose 25 lbs and he marries you, and you gain it back, does that mean he will divorce you?




mixielicous -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:57:42 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous


quote:

ORIGINAL: TGM

quote:

ORIGINAL: mixielicous

ha well this my infuriate you but i have known since day one being fat is grounds for termination [shrug]. so He claims. it doesnt bother me in the least, seeing as how, we will never really know till we get to that bridge. and considering i have been wanting to loose it for some time now maybe this is just the motivation i needed :)


Dear mixielicious,
I hope you take the time to think this through more thoroughly. Marriage is "for life" and if weight gain is "grounds for termination" then you're almost guaranteeing a divorce. A person's weight is variable through their life and there are many cases where it's not directly under their control. As geekygirl pointed out, you can gain a great deal of weight with certain illnesses or surgery (being given intravenous steroids after surgery is especially notorious for enormous and uncontrollable weight gain). I'm also suspecting that if a simple gain of 25 pounds is enough to prevent this marriage, the relationship may be better off kept as a non-committed one; thus giving you the option of being quickly and easily dismissed without the usual costs and red tape of a divorce.

wow all the silly standards so many other slaves have for grounds of termination i am SHOCKED this gets so much attention. first, we are both young, second, does anyone here actually believe this will still be the case when we are 40s and what we look like isnt as important? no i dont think so. people play all kinds of games in M/s why are some so appalling..


Because marriage isn't a "game."

If he knows you want to lose weight and he wants to support you with a reward, that's fine. For example, I have been with Masters who promised to buy me a certain gift I had been wanting if I reached my weight loss goal for a certain time period. To me, that's supportive and loving.

It is NOT the same as playing games with something as serious as marriage. "Lose 25lbs and I'll buy you that new dress you want" is a supportive. "Lose 25lbs or I won't marry you" is just cruel and vicious and indicative of a shallow personality (coupled with his desire for a "trophy" slave.")


ok, the words "or i wont marry you" have never come into the equation. and who says marriage, something that we both already want CANT be a reward? isnt in the end the ULTIMATE reward?




mixielicous -> RE: 25 lbs? (4/29/2007 6:58:48 AM)

i will accept that as a challenge [:D]




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