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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 5:14:54 PM   
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Capitalism is economic selection.  It's damn good for the economy and humanity as a whole.  Some people say "humanity as a whole" as "everyone".  In this meaning, "everyone" doesn't mean every individual person- it means the collective of all individual persons.

Capitalism is determental to the economically inviable or uncompetative.


I'm not convinced. What measures are you using for "damn good for humanity"?

Wealth creation? Yes, capitalism has proven itself to be the best means of wealth creation (to date).

Improving the material standard of living? Granted, our possessions are numerous.

Then what?

Surely the measure of society or an individual's well-being is the all-round package - prosperity, self-possession and stability. 

Society has the possessions, but is society any more than a collection of passive zombies directed towards a life of servitude to our corporate masters? You only have to read this board and it's as plain as day that self-possession is a scarce resource. What about the high crime levels - a sign of "a damn good for humanity" system?

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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 5:38:14 PM   
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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 6:24:08 PM   
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Capitalism is economic selection.  It's damn good for the economy and humanity as a whole.  Some people say "humanity as a whole" as "everyone".  In this meaning, "everyone" doesn't mean every individual person- it means the collective of all individual persons.

Capitalism is determental to the economically inviable or uncompetative.


I'm not convinced. What measures are you using for "damn good for humanity"?


I'd argue that it motivates society.  In order to make it, people go through incredible lengths to be productive.  Our technology grows by leaps and bounds for this, causing the life expectancy to sky rocket.  Argiculture is advanced now, allowing us to support this massive population we have on our hands.  People are able to travel across the world and see things that wouldn't have been possible.

We must be honest with ourselves in that we are, at the core, selfish creatures.  While many of us may grow to evolve past this in an individual life, it is typically after suffering hardship that we can appreach it.

The computer, you're on, for instance.  Did you know these things get a minor upgrade somewhere- whether it's in their harddrive control chip, or a slightly faster bus route, or a more efficient cooling fan- on a very regular basis?  These are inspired by individuals who went to college- for the purpose of making money in their adult lives- striving to compete in a competative market.
Sure, you can argue Linex is an example of people doing something for the hell of it, but even the better versions of it are comercial.  And it's only trying to catch up to a standard- a standard created and being raised by capitialism.
I can assure you right now, if not for capitalism, World of Warcraft would have never been made.  The same goes true for any computer game with more programming involved than Solitare.  That that may've been a milion years before people even decided to take things far enough to make computers- if ever!

Doctors.  Oh, man, they have horrid jobs.  Wading through the blood of strangers on a constant basis, under huge work loads, long shifts in odd hours, watching people get sicker and die, after having spent huge amounts of time studying mundane things.  We have a shortage of doctors world wide, despite the incredible pay they get.  How many doctors do you think we'll have if they weren't generously compensated?

Because of the inspiration to make profit, we try.  It's why we're doing more than enough to sustain ourselves- we're going to the extra mile.  Sure, if money wasn't involved, you could probably still find someone who would want to be an astronaught and train for it, just for the thrill of it.  But who would study those massive amounts of Physics and Math to just work dusty controls in some humid room to give them the mission control?

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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 6:31:23 PM   
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Sure, you can argue Linex


LINUX.

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is an example of people doing something for the hell of it, but even the better versions of it are comercial.


Sorry, but that shows an incredible misunderstanding about how a real computer system is designed.

LINUX is an operating system kernel. In the Windows world, the equivalent software would be the DOS layer underpinning the XP user interface. IN TOTAL, the compressed source code for linux, including documentation, etc is 42 megs.

People are installing versions of it over their PC BIOS, so consider exactly how small an operable version is.

( Oh, and those PC's with the linux BIOS? They boot in 2 seconds, and show a graphical UI in 6.

And "the better versions of it are commercial"? Ubuntu and Fedora Core are both non-commercial projects, and it's going to kick off a holy war to suggest that Red Hat Enterprise is "better", when it's stated purpose is slow adaption of the features worked out and tested in Fedora.


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And it's only trying to catch up to a standard-


You really have no idea how O/S development occurs.

You get a new Windows Kernel EVERY 6 YEARS.

We get a new Linux Kernel EVERY FEW WEEKS.

Which evolves faster, and develops more robust features?

Well, who is featuring TODAY a filesystem which NEVER FORGETS WHAT FILES LOOKED LIKE. Yup. It takes snapshots of the filesystem IN TIME so you can just 'start-processing-data datafile@yesterdaymorning, and viola. There it is.

( Think about SARBOX and other financial auditing and retention requirements, you can recreate what the system looked like at any point a snapshot was taken. ) ( Netapp does the same thing, but here it is, available now on commodity hardware... )

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World of Warcraft would have never been made.


WoW is just a pretty nethack...

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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 6:37:22 PM   
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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 6:37:58 PM   
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If you're a regualr here, you may've read an earlier rant I had about my life.  How I went to college starting when I was eleven.  My orginial field of study was computers.. I can program them, build them, and download hot, kinky lesbian porn on them faster than you could ever hope to.  (What?  I was eleven...)

Also, "Linex" is a pun to be pronounced "Line-X".  It's a joke based on how it lacked a decent GUI for a very long time.

*Grumbles.*  Excuse me, I'm simply annoyed at people giving me silly replies.  I'm not even sure how you got "you must not know very much about computers!" from me saying that Linex is largely motivated by competition with Windows and that the more complete versions of it have been for retail.
Granted, I haven't even seen Linex in years.  Most people I know have stopped caring about it as it's failed to keep up with Windows.  Which, in the end, only demonstrates my point.

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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 6:38:54 PM   
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Wish I had the brains for Linus... alas, my failure is my lazyness :-0


Ubuntu is WAY easier than Vista! It suffers from the perceptions people have from a decade ago.

"MOM" could easily use it.



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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 6:43:45 PM   
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Most people I know have stopped caring about it as it's failed to keep up with Windows. Which, in the end, only demonstrates my point.


Most people I know use it as the backbone of their distributed enterprise architecture.

VPN routers, Webservers, AD and PDCs, Fileservers, Application Servers, Directory Services ( LDAP ), Mailservers, Calendaring, Chat, Shared-Desktop/Whiteboard Collaberation and converged Telecommunications. ( Both using the ASP model and in-house ) Basically everything you need, until you need to bring in the super high-availability IBM Big Iron, and THEN you run your UNMODIFIED CODE right on the Big IBM Mainframe.

I just guess we hang out with different crowds.



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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 6:49:19 PM   
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Not to sound.. uninterested.. but was this more of an excuse to get a rant about computers out?  I mean, you made a lot of points, such as WoW being based off another game, that were both irrelevant to my points, yet apparently a point of interest for you (as you had quotes on hand).

Basically,  I'm just trying to figure out if there's any point buried in there I should respond to for the sake of the thread, or if it's just a side interest you brought up.

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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 6:52:25 PM   
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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 6:53:56 PM   
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However, if that is indeed your belief... carry on.

*sigh :-)

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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 6:54:51 PM   
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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 7:07:11 PM   
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You get a new Windows Kernel EVERY 6 YEARS.



Yes and no.

Windoze Vista is Microsofts attempt to steal the Linux kernel and build all sorts of bells and whistles into it to make it run as horribly slow as the Dos kernel.  The cool thing about the bells and whistles is they are generally designed to protect corporate interests from piracy.  I use the term "cool" as sarcastically as I can.

The problem I have with the concept is that Linux was designed to give the developer the flexibility to only load the stuff the developer wants loaded.  Microsnot tends to automatically load everything and hope the user might use all of it at some point.

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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 7:16:38 PM   
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Windows


That's that non-Mac OS, right?

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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 7:20:02 PM   
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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 7:55:43 PM   
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The United States government seems to have added "of large corporations", where it says, "promote the general welfare", in our Constitution. The government should provide an arena for corporations to operate, and ground rules they must operate under ... rather than being in the business of promoting big business on the backs of the citizens.

I believe ...

1. The minimum wage should triple, and be strictly enforced. I agree with NG ... motivate people and remove the worry about what will happen tomorrow, and they will bloom. Additional sales tax revenue would lower income tax, and increased retail spending would give American companies that actually produce something, a market for their goods.

2. The government should establish heavy import tarriffs to give American businesses a competitive advantage in American markets. Selling advanced technology to other nations, should be illegal and carry the harshest of penalties.

3. The government should closely regulate the cost of core consumer goods, like gasoline.

4. No more lobbyists ... period. Politicians attempting to garner personal or even political gain from any corporation, should be consider as having committed treason against the people of the United States. Wages for political leaders should increase significantly.

5. The government should be prohibited from borrowing money, and should not be involved on the federal level, in matters best left to individual states.

6. Heathcare should be offered to everyone, free of charge.

7. Welfare should be changed to workfare. It can be done, with a little creativity.

8. Non-citizens would be allowed to invest for profit in American businesses, but would not be allowed to buy controlling interests.

9. Corporations that made billions based on technology paid for by the American taxpayer ... just got themselves a new partner to share profits with.

10. The United States should remove itself from all alliances, and refuse to barter with collective groups like OPEC and the EU ... and should instead deal on a nation-to-nation basis, based on mutual interests and profitability.

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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 8:05:31 PM   
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10. The United States should remove itself from all alliances, and refuse to barter with collective groups like OPEC and the EU ... and should instead deal on a nation-to-nation basis, based on mutual interests and profitability.



Nice post, caitlyn, except for this.

The response we will get from the EU is that France should have the right to deal with Arizona only.

The fact that ancient country borders handed down from past millenia are being overcome by the economic power of combining resources, should not be considered as something the United States should refuse to honor.

United they bargain, divided they beg.  Or add "we" where it says "they," the only difference is we combined 200 years ago and they didnt.

OPEC has similar rights based on their economic product.  The end run around them is to convert our entire infrastructure to not use oil.  Then they can combine all they want, we are not forced to deal with them.

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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 8:12:46 PM   
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Does nobody understand that corporate culture is self-interested? Its intention is to constrict the freedom of the individual, not to promote it!!! It is profit which is of the essence here:.

The increasing autonomy and strength of corporations is actually shaping the policies of entire 'nation-states'. Look at the USA and at the power of the lobbyists! Democracy has never been a bigger sham than it is today (and fuck knows it wasn't ever the panacea to humanities' ills).




yup- i get it.

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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 8:24:47 PM   
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You get a new Windows Kernel EVERY 6 YEARS.



Yes and no.

Windoze Vista is Microsofts attempt to steal the Linux kernel and build all sorts of bells and whistles into it to make it run as horribly slow as the Dos kernel. The cool thing about the bells and whistles is they are generally designed to protect corporate interests from piracy. I use the term "cool" as sarcastically as I can.

The problem I have with the concept is that Linux was designed to give the developer the flexibility to only load the stuff the developer wants loaded. Microsnot tends to automatically load everything and hope the user might use all of it at some point.

Sinergy



I would disagree. What MSFT considers "Everything" is a fucking joke.

Let's compare the default loads of two popular O/S Distros ( The CD/DVD release you put in the computer to load a fresh harddrive.. )

....

Well, after poking around, I've leaned the LIST of packages installed on my Fedora Core 6 system is 1,484. So I won't list them all here, much less the 22,000 line description of each one...

Here's the CATAGORIES of the software you get when you use a Fedora installer.

* Administration Tools

* gparted - Gnome Partition Editor
* luma - A graphical tool for managing LDAP servers
* qtparted - Partition Magic clone written in C++ using the Qt toolkit

* Authoring and Publishing

* abcm2ps - A program to typeset ABC tunes into Postscript
* conglomerate - Extensible XML Editor
* html401-dtds - HTML 4.01 specification and document type definitions
* kile - (La)TeX source editor and TeX shell
* lilypond - A typesetting system for music notation
* lout - A document formatting system
* ooo2txt - Convert OpenOffice documents to simple text
* python-docutils - A system for processing plaintext documentation
* scribus - DeskTop Publishing application written in Qt
* tetex-prosper - LaTeX class for writing transparencies
* w3c-markup-validator - W3C Markup Validator

* X Window System

* Development Tools

* Sprog - A graphical tool to build programs by plugging parts together
* abicheck - ABI checking tool
* alleyoop - Graphical front-end to the Valgrind memory checker for x86
* aplus-fsf - Advanced APL interpreter with s interface
* archmage - Extensible reader/decompiler of files in CHM format
* asa - Convert Fortran carriage control characters
* bazaar - A distributed revision control system
* bigloo - Bigloo is compiler for the Scheme programming language
* buildbot - Build/test automation system
* bzr - Friendly distributed version control system
* ccache - C/C++ compiler cache
* clips - CLIPS language for developing expert systems
* clips-doc - Documentation for CLIPS
* clips-xclips - X interface to CLIPS
* clisp - Common Lisp (ANSI CL) implementation
* cmake - Cross-platform make system
* cmucl - CMU Common Lisp compiler
* codeblocks - An open source, cross platform, free C++ IDE
* cogito - The Cogito Version Control System
* colordiff - Color terminal highlighter for diff files
* cpan2rpm - Perl module packager
* cpanspec - RPM spec file generation utility
* cppunit - C++ unit testing framework
* cproto - Generates function prototypes and variable declarations from C code
* crossvc - Graphical CVS Client
* curry - Münster Curry compiler
* cvs2cl - Generate ChangeLogs from CVS working copies
* cvs2svn - CVS to Subversion Repository Converter
* cvsgraph - CVS/RCS repository grapher
* cvsps - Patchset tool for CVS
* cvsweb - Web interface for CVS repositories
* darcs - David's advanced revision control system
* ecl - Embeddable Common-Lisp
* epydoc - Automatic API documentation generation tool for Python
* eric - Python IDE
* erlang - General-purpose programming language and runtime environment
* flasm - Flash bytecode assembler disassembler
* fpc - Free Pascal Compiler
* ftnchek - Static analyzer for Fortran 77 programs
* gauche - Scheme script interpreter with multibyte character handling
* gcl - GNU Common Lisp
* gforth - Fast and portable implementation of the ANS Forth language
* ghc - Glasgow Haskell Compilation system
* git - Git core and tools
* gphpedit - A PHP source editor for GNOME 2
* gprolog - GNU Prolog is a free Prolog compiler
* gpsim - A simulator for Microchip (TM) PIC (TM) microcontrollers
* gputils - Development utilities for Microchip (TM) PIC (TM) microcontrollers
* haddock - Haddock documentation tool for annotated Haskell source code
* highlight - Universal source code to formatted text converter
* hugs98 - Haskell Interpreter
* ipython - An enhanced interactive Python shell
* jam - Program construction tool, similar to make
* kuipc - Cernlib's Kit for a User Interface Package (KUIP) compiler
* lcov - LTP GCOV extension code coverage tool
* lightning - GNU Lightning
* lua - Powerful light-weight programming language
* lush - An object-oriented Lisp interpreter and compiler
* mach - make a chroot
* manedit - UNIX Manual Page Editor
* mantis - Web-based bugtracking system
* mcrypt - Replacement for crypt()
* meld - Visual diff and merge tool
* mercurial - A fast, lightweight distributed source control management system
* mlton - Optimizing compiler for Standard ML
* mock - Builds packages inside chroots
* monotone - A free, distributed version control system
* nqc - Not Quite C compiler
* ocaml - Objective Caml compiler and programming environment
* oorexx - Open Object Rexx
* patchy - The patchy utilities
* perl-perlmenu - Perl library module for curses-based menus & data-entry templates
* perltidy - Tool for indenting and reformatting Perl scripts
* pgadmin3 - Graphical client for PostgreSQL
* phpcs - Command-line utility for PHP-CodeSniffer
* pikdev - IDE for development of PICmicro based application (under Linux/KDE)
* pl - SWI-Prolog - Edinburgh compatible Prolog compiler
* plt-scheme - Graphical environment for developing programs using Scheme
* polyml - Poly/ML compiler and runtime system
* pscan - Limited problem scanner for C source files
* pylint - Analyzes Python code looking for bugs and signs of poor quality
* q - Equational programming language
* qgit - QGit is a git GUI repository browser
* quilt - Scripts for working with series of patches
* rapidsvn - Graphical interface for the Subversion revision control system
* regexxer - A nifty GUI search/replace tool
* rpmdevtools - RPM Development Tools
* rpmlint - Tool for checking common errors in RPM packages
* sbcl - Steel Bank Common Lisp
* scons - An Open Source software construction tool
* smarteiffel - The GNU Eiffel Compiler and Libraries
* splint - An implementation of the lint program
* srecord - Manipulate EPROM load files
* sunifdef - A commandline tool for simplifying the preprocessor conditionals in source code
* svn2cl - Create a ChangeLog from a Subversion log
* svnmailer - Tool to post subversion repository commit information
* sysconftool - Macros for aclocal to install configuration files
* sysprof - Sysprof is a sampling CPU profiler
* tclpro - Development and debugging tools for Tcl applications
* tkcon - Tcl GUI console
* tkcvs - TkCVS and TkDiff
* tla - GNU arch revision control system
* tolua++ - A tool to integrate C/C++ code with Lua
* trac - Enhanced wiki and issue tracking system
* translate-toolkit - A collection of tools to assist software localization
* ucblogo - An interpreter for the Logo programming language
* utrac - Universal Text Recognizer and Converter
* xbsql - A SQL wrapper for xbase
* xfce4-dev-tools - Xfce developer tools
* yap - High-performance Prolog Compiler
* yasm - Complete rewrite of the NASM assembler
* zzuf - Transparent application input fuzzer

* Editors

* gobby - Free collaborative editor
* jed - Fast, compact editor based on the S-Lang screen library
* leafpad - GTK+ based simple text editor
* nedit - A GUI text editor for systems with X and Motif.
* poedit - GUI editor for GNU gettext .po files
* scite - SCIntilla based GTK2 text editor
* scribes - A sleek, simple, and powerful text editor for the GNOME desktop
* scribes-templates - Templates ("Snippets") for the Scribes text editor

* Educational Software
* childsplay - Suite of educational games for young children
* drgeo - Interactive educational geometry software
* drgeo-doc - Html documentation for drgeo
* gcompris - Educational suite for kids 2-10 years old
* gperiodic - Program for browsing the periodic table
* gtypist - GNU typing tutor
* stellarium - Photo-realistic nightsky renderer
* tuxtype2 - Tux Typing, an educational typing tutor for children

* Engineering and Scientific

* Macaulay2 - System for algebraic geometry and commutative algebra
* R - A language for data analysis and graphics
* SIBsim4 - Align expressed RNA sequences on a DNA template
* atlas - Automatically Tuned Linear Algebra Software
* blacs - Basic Linear Algebra Communication Subprograms
* blas - The BLAS (Basic Linear Algebra Subprograms) library.
* cdo - A program for manipulating GRIB/NetCDF/SERVICE/EXTRA files
* cernlib-utils - CERN library compilation and environment setting scripts
* dx - Open source version of IBM's Visualization Data Explorer
* dx-samples - OpenDX Examples
* funtools - FITS library and utilities
* galculator - GTK 2 based scientific calculator
* gdl - GNU Data Language
* geant321 - Particle detector description and simulation tool
* geda-docs - Documentation for gEDA
* geda-examples - Circuit examples for gEDA
* geda-gattrib - Attribute editor for gEDA
* geda-gnetlist - Netlister for the gEDA project
* geda-gschem - Electronics schematics editor
* geda-gsymcheck - Symbol checker for electronics schematics editor
* geda-symbols - Electronic symbols for gEDA
* geda-utils - Several utilities for the gEDA project
* genius - An arbitrary precision integer and multiple precision floatingpoint calculator
* geomview - Interactive 3D viewing program
* ghdl - A VHDL simulator, using the GCC technology
* gnucap - The Gnu Circuit Analysis Package
* gpredict - Real-time satellite tracking and orbit prediction program
* grads - Tool for easy acces, manipulation, and visualization of data
* gresistor - Gnome resistor color code calculator
* gtkwave - Waveform Viewer
* gts - GNU Triangulated Surface Library
* harminv - Program and library for solving the harmonic inversion problem
* hdf - A general purpose library and file format for storing scientific data
* hdf5 - A general purpose library and file format for storing scientific data
* hmmer - Profile HMM software for protein sequence analysis
* kicad - Electronic schematic diagrams and printed circuit board artwork
* kpolynome - A polynome calculation program for KDE
* kst - A data viewing program for KDE
* ktechlab - Development and simulation of microcontrollers and electronic circuits
* lagan - Local, global, and multiple alignment of DNA sequences
* lapack - The LAPACK libraries for numerical linear algebra.
* libctl - Guile-based support for flexible control files
* libmatheval - Library for parsing and evaluating symbolic expressions input as text
* libtcd - Tide Constituent Database Library
* maxima - Symbolic Computation Program
* ncarg - A Fortran and C based software package for scientific visualization
* nco - Suite of programs for manipulating NetCDF/HDF4 files
* ncview - A visual browser for netCDF format files
* netcdf - Libraries for the Unidata network Common Data Form (NetCDF v3)
* ngspice - A mixed level/signal circuit simulator
* numpy - A fast multidimensional array facility for Python
* octave - A high-level language for numerical computations
* octave-forge - Contributed functions for octave
* openbabel - Chemistry software file format converter
* orpie - A fullscreen console-based RPN calculator
* osiv - Open Source Image Velocimetry
* paraview - Parallel visualization application
* paw - A program for the analysis and presentation of data
* pcb - An interactive printed circuit board editor
* perl-bioperl - A package of Perl tools for computational molecular biology
* plotutils - GNU vector and raster graphics utilities and libraries
* python-biopython - Python tools for computational molecular biology
* qalculate-gtk - A multi-purpose desktop calculator for GNU/Linux
* qalculate-kde - A multi-purpose desktop calculator for GNU/Linux
* qcad - Simple 2D CAD program
* qucs - Circuit simulator
* rrdtool - Round Robin Database Tool to store and display time-series data
* scalapack - A subset of LAPACK routines redesigned for heterogenous computing
* scigraphica - Scientific application for data analysis and technical graphics
* scrip - Spherical Coordinate Remapping and Interpolation Package (SCRIP)
* sextractor - Extract catalogs of sources from astronomical images
* speedcrunch - A fast power user calculator for KDE
* tcd-utils - TCD (Tide Constituent Database) Utils
* tideEditor - Editor for Tide Constituent Database (TCD) files
* toped - IC Layout Editor
* veusz - GUI scientific plotting package
* wcstools - Software utilities to display and manipulate the WCS of a FITS image
* wgrib - Manipulate, inventory and decode GRIB files
* wise2 - Tools for comparison of biopolymers
* wvs-data - World Vector Shoreline data
* wxMaxima - Graphical user interface for Maxima
* xcircuit - Electronic circuit schematic drawing program
* xdrawchem - 2D chemical structures drawing tool
* xtide - Calculate tide all over the world

* FTP Server

* Games and Entertainment
* KoboDeluxe - 3'rd person scrolling 2D shooter
* Maelstrom - Space combat game
* Ri-li - Arcade game where you drive a toy wood engine
* abe - Scrolling, platform-jumping, ancient pyramid exploring game
* abuse - The classic Crack-Dot-Com game
* alex4 - Alex the Allegator 4 - Platform game
* alphabet-soup - Guide your worm through the soup to spell words
* arrows - Neat little maze game
* asc - Advanced Strategic Command
* asc-music - Background music for the game asc
* atomix - Little mind game where you have to build molecules out of atoms lying around
* atomorun - Jump&Run game where you have to flee an exploding nuclear bomb
* auriferous - Game inspired by the classic Loderunner
* ballbuster - Move the paddle to bounce the ball and break all the bricks
* ballz - Platform game with some puzzle elements
* beneath-a-steel-sky - Beneath a Steel Sky - Adventure Game
* beneath-a-steel-sky-cd - Beneath a Steel Sky - Adventure Game - CD version
* blobby - Blobby Volley 2, a volley-ball game
* blobwars - Mission and Objective based 2D Platform Game
* bsd-games - Collection of text-based games
* bygfoot - Bygfoot Football Manager
* bzflag - 3D multi-player tank battle game
* celestia - OpenGL real-time visual space simulation
* cgoban - X board for playing go
* chess - 3D chess game
* clanbomber - Bomberman-like multiplayer game that uses ClanLib
* crack-attack - Puzzle action game
* crossfire - Server for hosting crossfire games
* crossfire-client - Client for connecting to crossfire servers
* crystal-stacker - Falling blocks, match 3 or more of the same color crystals
* crystal-stacker-themes - Themes for the Crystal Stacker game
* csmash - 3D tabletennis game
* cyphesis - WorldForge game server
* dd2 - Dodgin' Diamond 2 - Shoot'em up arcade game
* duel3 - One on one spaceship duel in a 2D arena
* enigma - Clone of the ATARI game Oxyd
* escape - A fun puzzle game in the tradition of Adventures of Lolo or Chip's Challenge
* fRaBs - Free data files for abuse the game
* fbg - Falling Block Game
* fillets-ng - Fish Fillets Next Generation, a puzzle game with 70 levels
* flight-of-the-amazon-queen - Flight of the Amazon Queen - Adventure Game
* flight-of-the-amazon-queen-cd - Flight of the Amazon Queen - Adventure Game - CD version
* foobillard - OpenGL billard game
* fortune-mod - A program which will display a fortune
* freeciv - The Freeciv multi-player strategy game
* freedoom - Replacement game files for doom game engines
* freedroid - Clone of the C64 game Paradroid
* freedroidrpg - Role playing game with Freedroid theme and Tux as the hero
* frozen-bubble - Frozen Bubble arcade game
* games-menus - Catagorized submenus for the GNOME/KDE Games menu
* gemdropx - Falling blocks puzzlegame
* gl-117 - Action flight simulator
* glchess - GlChess, a 3d Chess game using OpenGL
* glest - 3D real time strategy game
* gnofract4d - Gnofract 4D is a Gnome-based program to draw fractals
* gnome-sudoku - GNOME based Sudoku, a logic puzzle game
* gnubg - A backgammon game and analyser
* gnuchess - The GNU chess program
* gnugo - Text based go program
* grhino - Reversi game for GNOME, supporting the Go/Game Text Protocol
* gweled - Swapping gem game
* kbilliards - A Fun Billiards Simulator Game
* lacewing - Asteroid like game with many different ships
* lincity-ng - City Simulation Game
* liquidwar - Multiplayer wargame with liquid armies
* lmarbles - Atomix clone where you create figures out of marbles
* lucidlife - A Conway's Life simulator
* magicor - Push ice blocks around to extenguish all fires
* manaworld - 2D MMORPG world
* methane - Super Methane Brothers
* mirrormagic - Puzzle game where you steer a beam of light using mirrors
* monkey-bubble - Game in the spirit of Frozen Bubble
* monsterz - Puzzle game, similar to Bejeweled or Zookeeper
* nazghul - A computer role-playing game (CRPG) engine
* nazghul-haxima - A full-featured role-playing game for the Nazghul engine
* nethack - A rogue-like single player dungeon exploration game
* nethack-vultures - NetHack - Vulture's Eye and Vulture's Claw
* netpanzer - An Online Multiplayer Tactical Warfare Game
* neverball - Roll a ball through an obstacle course
* nexuiz - Multiplayer, deathmatch oriented first person shooter
* njam - Maze-game, eat all the cookies while avoiding the badguys
* oneko - Cat chases the cursor
* openarena - Open source first person shooter
* openlierox - Addictive realtime multiplayer 2D shoot-em-up
* overgod - Another Asteroid like game
* pachi - Pachi El Marciano - Platform Game
* pengupop - Networked Game in the vein of Move/Puzzle Bobble
* pinball - Emilia Pinball game
* pingus - Guide the penguins safely home before they drop of the cliff
* pipenightdreams - Connect the waterpipes to create a proper pipeline
* poker2d - GTK poker client to play on a poker-network server
* powermanga - Arcade 2D shoot-them-up game
* ppracer - 3D racing game featuring Tux
* qgo - Graphical Go client and SGF editor
* rafkill - Top-down shooter with powerups
* raidem - 2d top-down shoot'em up
* rocksndiamonds - Underground digging game
* rogue - The original graphical adventure game
* scorched3d - Game based loosely on the classic DOS game Scorched Earth
* scorchwentbonkers - Realtime remake of Scorched Earth
* scummvm - Interpreter for several adventure games
* seahorse-adventures - Help barbie the seahorse float on bubbles to the moon
* sear - 3D WorldForge client
* shippy - Space invaders / Galaxians like game with powerups
* smashteroid - Astrosmash Remake
* sopwith - SDL port of the sopwith game
* starfighter - Project: Starfighter, a space arcade game
* sturmbahnfahrer - Simulated obstacle course for automobiles
* supertux - Jump'n run like game similar to Mario Bros
* supertuxkart - Kids 3D go-kart racing game featuring Tux
* tecnoballz - A Brick Busting game
* tong - A mixture of two classic games
* torcs - The Open Racing Car Simulator
* trackballs - Steer a marble ball through a labyrinth
* trackballs-music - In-game music for Trackballs
* tremulous - First Person Shooter game based on the Quake 3 engine
* tuxpuck - 3D Shufflepuck Pong Game
* ularn - Simple roguelike game
* uqm - The Ur-Quan Masters, a port of the classic game Star Control II
* vdr-sudoku - Sudoku plugin for VDR
* viruskiller - Frantic shooting game where viruses invade your computer
* wesnoth - Turn-based strategy game with a fantasy theme
* worminator - Sidescrolling platform and shoot'em up action-game
* wormux - 2D convivial mass murder game
* xaos - A fast, portable real-time interactive fractal zoomer
* xarchon - Arcade board game
* xblast - Lay bombs and Blast the other players of the field (SDL version)
* xboard - An X Window System graphical chessboard
* xgalaxy - Galaxian / Galaga like game with powerups
* xmoto - Challenging 2D Motocross Platform Game
* xpilot-ng - Multiplayer space arcade game
* xpilot-ng-server - Server for hosting xpilot games
* xplanet - Render a planetary image into an X window
* xscorch - A Scorched Earth clone
* zasx - Asteroid like game with powerups

* Graphical Internet
* amsn - MSN Messenger clone for Linux, Mac and Windows
* apollon - Filesharing client
* azureus - A BitTorrent Client
* balsa - Mail Client
* bittorrent-gui - GUI versions of the BitTorrent file transfer tools
* blogtk - GNOME application for editing/maintaining blogs
* bluefish - GTK2 web development application for experienced users
* contact-lookup-applet - Contact Lookup Applet
* d4x - Downloader for X that supports resuming and many other features
* deluge - A Python BitTorrent client with support for UPnP and DHT
* deskbar-applet - A Gnome applet to allow easy access to various search engines
* dillo - Very small and fast GUI web browser
* drivel - A journal or "blog" client
* epiphany-extensions - Extensions for Epiphany, the GNOME web browser
* evolution-bogofilter - A plugin for bogofilter support in evolution
* fwbuilder - Firewall Builder
* gaim-libnotify - Libnotify Gaim plugin
* gajim - Jabber client written in PyGTK
* galeon - GNOME2 Web browser based on Mozilla
* gg2 - GNU Gadu 2 - free talking
* gift-gnutella - Gnutella plugin for giFT
* gift-openft - Openft plugin for giFT
* gnome-blog - GNOME panel object for posting blog entries
* gnome-ppp - A GNOME 2 WvDial frontend
* gnome-translate - GNOME interface to libtranslate -- Natural language translator
* gnubiff - A mail notification program
* gossip - Gnome Jabber Client
* gtk-gnutella - GUI based Gnutella Client
* gtorrentviewer - A GTK2-based viewer and editor for BitTorrent meta files
* gwget - Graphical download manager that uses wget
* jd - A 2ch browser
* kadu - An Gadu-Gadu client for online messaging
* kasablanca - Graphical FTP client
* kazehakase - Kazehakase browser
* kickpim - KDE kicker applet to access addressbook
* kita - 2ch client for KDE
* knetstats - Network monitor in KDE
* konversation - Konversation is a user friendly IRC client for KDE
* kphone - A SIP (Session Initiation Protocol) user agent for Linux
* licq - Licq - A graphical ICQ Client for Linux
* liferea - An RSS/RDF feed reader
* linphone - Phone anywhere in the whole world by using the Internet
* logjam - GTK2 client for LiveJournal
* mail-notification - Status icon that informs you if you have new mail
* mugshot - Companion software for mugshot.org
* ochusha - A GTK+ 2ch.net BBS Browser
* pan - A GNOME/GTK+ news reader for X
* prozilla - Advanced Linux download manager
* psi - Jabber client based on Qt
* putty - SSH, Telnet and Rlogin client
* rssowl - An RSS, RDF and Atom Newsreader
* screem - Website development environment
* streamtuner - A stream directory browser
* sylpheed - GTK+ based, lightweight, and fast email client
* transmission - A lightweight GTK+ BitTorrent client
* twinkle - A SIP Soft Phone
* urlgfe - Urlgfe download manager
* valknut - Valknut is a QT Direct Connect client
* x3270-x11 - IBM 3278/3279 terminal emulator for the X Window System
* xchat-gnome - GNOME front-end to xchat


* Graphics

* agave - Generate a variety of colorschemes from a single starting color
* asymptote - Descriptive vector graphics language
* blender - 3D modeling, animation, rendering and post-production
* comix - A user-friendly, customizable image viewer
* digikam - A digital camera accessing & photo management application
* digikam-doc - Documentation for the digiKam and Showfoto
* digikamimageplugins - Plugins for Digikam
* digikamimageplugins-doc - Documentation for digiKamimageplugins
* fontforge - Outline and bitmap font editor
* fonttools - A tool to convert True/OpenType fonts to XML and back
* fyre - Tool for creating artwork from chaotic functions
* gpp - GNOME Photo Printer
* gqview - Image browser and viewer
* graphviz - Graph Visualization Tools
* gutenprint - Printer Drivers Package
* gv - A X front-end for the Ghostscript PostScript(TM) interpreter
* gwenview - Simple image viewer for KDE
* inkscape - Vector-based drawing program using SVG
* ipe - The Ipe extensible drawing editor
* k3d - A 3D Modeling, Animation and Rendering System
* kipi-plugins - Plugins to use with Kipi
* kphotoalbum - KDE Photo Album
* mirage - A fast and simple image viewer
* nip2 - Interactive tool for working with large images
* optipng - A PNG optimizer and converter
* pstoedit - Translates PostScript and PDF graphics into other vector formats
* pydot - Python interface to Graphviz's Dot language
* qiv - Quick Image Viewer
* rawstudio - Raw-image converter
* renrot - A program to rename and rotate files according to EXIF tags
* scanbuttond - Scanner Button tools to SANE
* showimg - Feature-rich image viewer for KDE
* skencil - Vector drawing program
* tuxpaint - Drawing program designed for young children
* ufraw - Tool to retrieve raw image data from digital cameras
* wings - 3D Subdivision Modeler

* Mail Server

* Network Servers

* News Server

* Office/Productivity

* Sound and Video

* System Tools

* Web Development

* Web Server

Well, I'll stop here, you get the idea...

What do you get with Vista? MS-Paint? Hyperterm?

You sure as hell don't get a Perl interpreter or a C compiler. Or a couple of Office Suites...

< Message edited by farglebargle -- 5/4/2007 8:25:53 PM >

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RE: So what do YOU believe in? - 5/4/2007 8:40:08 PM   
Sinergy


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Linux comes with a lot of software, farglebargle.

But it doesnt do what Windoze does which is automatically load hooks into the Registry in case you might someday want to use AWK.

RAM is a finite system space.  Every hook to MsTwaddle or whatever you have loaded into it sucks up that much memory the system could otherwise use for other purposes.

While this is less important now that RAM is so cheap, when 2 meg of memory was deemed excessive and for the hard core, putting crap in memory had a real downside.

Sinergy

p.s.  On a related note, Windows basically sets up their software and lets you know that if it doesnt run you need to upgrade your hardware.  Rather difficult when the software is running on a satellite.

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