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What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 9:29:42 AM

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Go for it. Spill your guts here. What popped into your mind?

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 9:33:38 AM

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To me I believe that what makes America great is that you really can be anything you want to be here....IF you have enough drive, motivation, patience and perserverence. Unfortunately, most people don't and would rather sit and whine about how it's impossible.

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 9:37:06 AM

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Go for it. Spill your guts here. What popped into your mind?

It's rough, given that our greatest strength, our supposed ability to say that "WE" are better than "THEM" was thrown away when we started depriving people of Due Process, Equal Protection and began torturing prisoners in our custody and jurisdiction.

Since we have decided to be Evil, there's not much going for it.

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 9:37:23 AM

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Cheeseburgers!

The food and it's abundance.
Plus, we feed a good portion of the rest of the world.

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 9:38:55 AM

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To me I believe that what makes America great is that you really can be anything you want to be here....IF you have enough drive, motivation, patience and perserverence. Unfortunately, most people don't and would rather sit and whine about how it's impossible.

I was holding my breath to see if there would be any type of reply.

I agree with you. I never thought I would own a home. But I do. Perseverance had alot to do with it.

True alot of whining. Sometimes we dwell on all thats bad- I thought a cheerful thread might be fun. :-)

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 9:40:06 AM

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Opportunity.
We have so much at our disposal to help us make the most of our education, careers, family life.

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 9:44:47 AM

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Cheeseburgers!

The food and it's abundance.
Plus, we feed a good portion of the rest of the world.

abundant food. Interesting you mention that. Jenny flat out told me to stop sending her snacks.... I get them almost free, and like to share. I figure one will eat- so why not cave in and have "some" of the snack food.

The midwest is the breadbasket of the world. I do sorta wonder about the aquifer- that we are draining it too fast.

I love summer. I go to the local farm stand. I go every other day and get real food locally grown, at good prices. I can see and talk to the farmer that grew it. When I eat more produce i feel better.

Conversely I avoid all you can eat buffets- it seems like a banch of cattle that will never eat again. Im not a big fan of that- [may as well bring back the vomitoriums from the middle aaaages..]

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 9:46:34 AM

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Go for it. Spill your guts here. What popped into your mind?

It's rough, given that our greatest strength, our supposed ability to say that "WE" are better than "THEM" was thrown away when we started depriving people of Due Process, Equal Protection and began torturing prisoners in our custody and jurisdiction.

Since we have decided to be Evil, there's not much going for it.

try hard- find something positive. try really really hard.

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 9:55:30 AM

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pssssst.....vomitoriums don't have anything to do with vomiting. They were passages in amphitheaters that allowed crowds to flow out.

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 9:57:17 AM

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I can only think about one thing:
- with enough money you can do anything.

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 9:59:04 AM

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 10:00:29 AM

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Go for it. Spill your guts here. What popped into your mind?

It's rough, given that our greatest strength, our supposed ability to say that "WE" are better than "THEM" was thrown away when we started depriving people of Due Process, Equal Protection and began torturing prisoners in our custody and jurisdiction.

Since we have decided to be Evil, there's not much going for it.

Fargle, yeah, I really lose sleep over those AL QEADA scumbags in GTMO.
As a judge in the wild west once said; "we're gonna give 'em a fair trial then we're gonna hang 'em!"
Would it make you "feel better" if we gave them trials then hung them?
Would that work for you Sweety?

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 10:02:26 AM

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Is it possible to have a thread about America without it turning into a political debate on the correctness/incorrectness of the war?????

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 10:03:07 AM

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Go for it. Spill your guts here. What popped into your mind?

It's rough, given that our greatest strength, our supposed ability to say that "WE" are better than "THEM" was thrown away when we started depriving people of Due Process, Equal Protection and began torturing prisoners in our custody and jurisdiction.

Since we have decided to be Evil, there's not much going for it.

Fargle, yeah, I really lose sleep over those AL QEADA scumbags in GTMO.
As a judge in the wild west once said; "we're gonna give 'em a fair trial then we're gonna hang 'em!"
Would it make you "feel better" if we gave them trials then hung them?
Would that work for you Sweety?

1) Without an arraignment, how do you know they're accused of being Al Quaida spies?
2) Yeah, a FAIR TRIAL would constitute Due Process and Equal Protection. You know, with Lawyers, Judges, Juries, etc...

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 10:04:42 AM

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it's not south korea!

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 10:05:30 AM

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Is it possible to have a thread about America without it turning into a political debate on the correctness/incorrectness of the war?????

Guess NOT!

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 10:05:39 AM

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Opportunity.
We have so much at our disposal to help us make the most of our education, careers, family life.

we take it for granted. despite the past 8 years- we still have the "real America" that is made up of real people. one can not be certain the bush years are now what America is forever. We constantly are re-inventing ourselves.

as a whole the country very much wants to move on from the doom and gloom of the bush years. Quite possibly it is possible- that our next president could be the greatest in history. Never say never.

in day to day living- I dont find the bush thing to be of relevance. For instance- when one goes about their day- the fact that bush is prez doesnt factor in a whole lot.

Im excited about PAs new energy policy. Good things are on the horizen here in PA.

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 10:05:54 AM

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Go for it. Spill your guts here. What popped into your mind?

It's rough, given that our greatest strength, our supposed ability to say that "WE" are better than "THEM" was thrown away when we started depriving people of Due Process, Equal Protection and began torturing prisoners in our custody and jurisdiction.

Since we have decided to be Evil, there's not much going for it.

Fargle, yeah, I really lose sleep over those AL QEADA scumbags in GTMO.
As a judge in the wild west once said; "we're gonna give 'em a fair trial then we're gonna hang 'em!"
Would it make you "feel better" if we gave them trials then hung them?
Would that work for you Sweety?

Oh, and where did you get that "we have to be "better" than them stuff?" No we don't.
That's not in the rule book!
People who use the word "morally" try to say that and they always lose.
Are you trying to say that I'm not better than some insane suicide bomber who doesn't care if they kill innocent women and children?

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 10:08:33 AM

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Is it possible to have a thread about America without it turning into a political debate on the correctness/incorrectness of the war?????

Guess NOT!

I wonderred the same thing. In the 60s, there was a phraze. America, love it or leave it.

So farb, can think of nothing good about America. Nothing what so ever. ???

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RE: What makes America great? - 5/7/2007 10:14:23 AM

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Oh, and where did you get that "we have to be "better" than them stuff?" No we don't.

I'm pretty sure "we have to be better than them" comes from here:

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness"

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That's not in the rule book!

It does if your obedient to the Rule of Law.

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Are you trying to say that I'm not better than some insane suicide bomber who doesn't care if they kill innocent women and children?

That's pretty much it.

Torture is, like Rape, INHERENTLY EVIL... It is NEVER JUSTIFIED. Would you RAPE WOMAN PRISONERS if they had information that was believed to be useful?

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