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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 4:01:15 AM   
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So I go up to this 14 year old.  Her parents are watching.

I look her up and down.

I politely ask her if she has ever had a Brazilian waxing.

She tells me that this is inappropriate.

I ask her if she knows what a Brazilian waxing is.

She tells me she does not want to have this conversation.

So I explain the Brazilian waxing thing to her.  I offer to give her one.  I finally move into position so I can more fully explain the concept.

Im watching the look of shock, revulsion, disgust, etc., on her parents face.

Finally, I attack her, get smashed in the helmet, kicked in the groin protector, and kneed in the head.

Parents come up after class and thank me for helping to keep their daughter safe.

Weird.

Sinergy


Sinergy, this is a perfect example of why some people should never be parents.  I'd call CPS if I were you.

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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 4:37:50 AM   
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Um, I think a bit of Sinergy's context has been lost Gris....

He helps train Self Defense classes.

There are 2 ways to ward off an attacker. Try to scratch their faces, or unload a revolver into their chests.

Either way works.



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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 4:38:48 AM   
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/6289827.stm

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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 4:58:38 AM   
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Sinergy:
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, with absolute certainty.....
if what you report is accurate
then
if there is not something seriously suspect about the methods and attitudes you bring to martial arts training of young girls
then I'm an effin Chinaman !

Quite frankly I've never read such a load of old bollocks in all my life.

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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 5:02:57 AM   
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In dojo, there are rules.

In life, you teach a 6 year old girl to try to rip their attacker's carotid artery out with her teeth, and dance in their blood upon their corpse, rather than be a victim.

So to speak...




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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 7:00:09 AM   
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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave

Sinergy:
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, with absolute certainty.....
if what you report is accurate
then
if there is not something seriously suspect about the methods and attitudes you bring to martial arts training of young girls
then I'm an effin Chinaman !

Quite frankly I've never read such a load of old bollocks in all my life.


I have witnessed it. Although I could be full of bollocks myself, and it is not "his" method, and he is not teaching them "martial arts". He is teaching them how to fight for their lives when they are under adrenaline stress. His company is the one that came up with the theory of how to accomplish this, not him. So if you have an issue with it, take it up with the self defense industry

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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 7:10:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Vendaval

As in pork-barrel politics?  
Or are you talking about the pork bellies on the stock exchange? 
Or making bacon?  Or pigs in a blanket? 
 
 


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Ah, but have we had a fat-political thread?




     Ted Kennedy?

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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 7:28:40 AM   
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Good thing that exchange wasn't recored by 'Dateline'. Outside the dojo, after Stone Phillips read his dialog back to him, the local police would be there to throw him to the ground. It would present a great defense next time they "catch a predator". "Yes Stone, I had that IM exchange with the 14 year old and did come to the house with Smirnoff Ice and condoms, but it was part of her Martial Arts defense training."

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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 8:38:30 AM   
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No way. This ain't "Catch a Predator", this is what we *SHOULD* be teaching our children...

"KILL THE PREDATOR".

Whatever is available is a weapon. Advance, do not retreat. Hit until the threat stops moving, and then keep hitting until you're sure they AIN'T getting up.

We'd give them a parade and a cake for "Homicide in the Public Interest".

One less rabid animal running loose.


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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 9:43:50 AM   
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"(Wayne Dyer) told a story about how he likes to jog in the halls of the hotels that he stays at. ... He said he was amazed at how this behavior offended people, one guy said to him "How dare you run around outside my room, how rude you are"

You know, it is easy to find reasons to be offended, it is just as easy to find beauty in things if a person wants to... these days I am really trying to find the beauty..."

Thank you for this sentiment.  It is habit for many of us to take offense, and a powerful social force and spiritual practice when we shift to taking the good in a situation. 

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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 10:35:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent
I'd be interested in one of the tits threads


Can't do that. It would inevitably turn into a discussion about whether or not it's right to breast feed in public....or whether or not silicone implants are really dangerous to your health...or if that is just a false argument created by feminists..


I'll cope with that. I just want to see if the nationalists were born with small US flags where their nipples should be - tweak a nipple/flag and the national anthem plays.

I say let the breasts go free in public, and if a passer-by wants a quick suck off the teet while the mother is being generous....then let nature take its course.

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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 10:37:13 AM   
Sinergy


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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

Um, I think a bit of Sinergy's context has been lost Gris....

He helps train Self Defense classes.

There are 2 ways to ward off an attacker. Try to scratch their faces, or unload a revolver into their chests.

Either way works.




Why bother scratching their faces?

Any idea exactly how quickly a man drops from a knee to the testicles?

Sinergy

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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 10:46:25 AM   
Sinergy


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Good thing that exchange wasn't recored by 'Dateline'. Outside the dojo, after Stone Phillips read his dialog back to him, the local police would be there to throw him to the ground. It would present a great defense next time they "catch a predator". "Yes Stone, I had that IM exchange with the 14 year old and did come to the house with Smirnoff Ice and condoms, but it was part of her Martial Arts defense training."


Do you have any idea how many people in show business, law enforcement, or politics I have been the mock assailant for?

I get hit on infrequently.  I will not have anything to do with students for 6 months or longer after the class.  It is a job.  I leave it at work.

I have yet to hear of any complaints.  It is not like people dont know what we do or how we do it.  I let my boss do all the talking; Im just the assailant.

There was one father who called my boss and said...

"Did one of your instructors tell my daughter he was going to buttfuck her?"

My boss's response was...

"Probably."

The father went..

"Oh.  Ok."

I did three classes yesterday and when I got home I was a wreck.  Everybody out on the mat is adrenalized (which is a soup of approximately 30 hormones including adrenalin, epinephrine, endorphins, etc) and it takes the body a finite amount of time to feed itself the soup to counteract all of these in the bloodstream.  So I do one class and get adrenalized, the counteraction time which includes things like cortisol and other hormones that have physiological reactions begins, I get adrenalized again while my body is pumping in the counteracting chemicals, the counteraction time with the new adrenalin and new hormones to counteract it,...

I mentioned to my boss that sometimes I feel I am getting too old for this.  Her response was "yeah, it does catch up to a person after a while."

I understand you think it is bollocks, Seeks.  Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink sometimes.

Sinergy

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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 10:47:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

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Nice - one tit bigger than the other - face like Mick Jagger though. Not happy about that.


Hey, you weren't supposed to see my private photo album!


Ah, so that's what you meant in your e-mail when you said "here's my private photo album, please have a look and enjoy at your leisure". Never mind, no use crying over spilt milk :-)

P.S. I didn't see any Mick Jagger in there.

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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 10:49:38 AM   
Sinergy


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Whatever is available is a weapon. Advance, do not retreat. Hit until the threat stops moving, and then keep hitting until you're sure they AIN'T getting up.



Exactly.

We teach a couple of weapons, farglebargle.  Primary knees, elbows, and heel palms or eye strikes.

We teach them to take the fight to the assailant and to not stop fighting until the person stops moving.

As far as environmental weapons are concerned, I have trained with a lot of weapons and the dynamics of using a weapon one is not used to using intimately puts the wielder at a disadvantage. 

Besides which, nobody can easily take my knees away from me and use them against me in a fight.

I want my students to end up fighting like a cat that does not want to be held.

Sinergy

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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 10:51:24 AM   
Sinergy


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I am still waiting for the person to complain that I turned a thread about political debate into something else.

Sinergy

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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 10:55:06 AM   
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I've never known ANY father to say that it is okay for an adult man to tell his teenaged daughter that he is going to 'butt fuck her'. My god.
That is disgusting & inappropriate no matter the context. Nor is it appropriate to ask a 14 year old girl if she has a brazilian wax!

There are many ways to invade a persons space without using a sexual advance. There are ways to show intimidation or danger without using sexual innuendo to a kid.

That there has never been a complaint may be a postive thing to you and your boss I think its sad. That there are people out there thinking this is something okay to do, is sad.





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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth

Good thing that exchange wasn't recored by 'Dateline'. Outside the dojo, after Stone Phillips read his dialog back to him, the local police would be there to throw him to the ground. It would present a great defense next time they "catch a predator". "Yes Stone, I had that IM exchange with the 14 year old and did come to the house with Smirnoff Ice and condoms, but it was part of her Martial Arts defense training."


Do you have any idea how many people in show business, law enforcement, or politics I have been the mock assailant for?

I get hit on infrequently.  I will not have anything to do with students for 6 months or longer after the class.  It is a job.  I leave it at work.

I have yet to hear of any complaints.  It is not like people dont know what we do or how we do it.  I let my boss do all the talking; Im just the assailant.

There was one father who called my boss and said...

"Did one of your instructors tell my daughter he was going to buttfuck her?"

My boss's response was...

"Probably."

The father went..

"Oh.  Ok."


<snipped cuz its right above here anyway and I hate making giant posts lol.cj.>

I understand you think it is bollocks, Seeks.  Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one and they all stink sometimes.

Sinergy




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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 10:57:07 AM   
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Well those are only cartoon tits, NG.  I like both tits and ass myself. 
Give me a nice, rounded, voluptuous woman like Sophia Loren or
Salma Hayek any day...


No arguments here :-) A "flesh" section would be a welcome addition to this board.




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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 11:03:48 AM   
Sinergy


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I've never known ANY father to say that it is okay for an adult man to tell his teenaged daughter that he is going to 'butt fuck her'. My god.



Fair enough.

We are teaching women to fight for their lives against men who assault them.

[dreamworld]

You think a perpetrator who uses verbal intimidation is going to hold back and NOT say these sorts of things to a woman he intends to rape or kill?

Of course not, there are standards of protocol which rapists and serial killers will adhere to when they are attacking women!

[/dreamworld]

The process involves verbal desensitization so that the woman being attacked is able to keep her wits about her and fight for her life when some sick person is assaulting them.

Sinergy

p.s.  On the other hand, the feedback we get from graduates who have had to use our stuff to defend themselves is that the mock assailants in class were generally a lot more verbally nasty.  The students fighting for their lives actually found their real-life assailants boring and inarticulate in their attempts to be nasty.

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RE: Turning every thread into a political debate - 5/8/2007 11:05:27 AM   
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Yes I have encountered the dramatic lopsided titation on more than one woman ...When the subject was brought up it was not warmly received...I have since learned that the "uneven tit talk" is best to be avoided.


Gotta be cruel to be kind though, Domi. If there's a symmetry issue, they need to be told. How would you feel if you'd been walking 'round for the last 20 years as proud as punch over your crown jewels 'til one day your girlfriend points out that one of your knackers is out of control?

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