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DaddySatyr -> RE: Males Only!! Oral Contraception Yes or No? (2/23/2012 9:05:10 AM)
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ORIGINAL: needlesandpins
i can't speak as whether men would or not, but as i'm as free to my opinion and to post it as anyone else......
i wouldn't trust a guy who told me he was on the pill just to get out of using a condom. my ex wanted sex without condoms after we had our son so he had the option; you get the snip or you use condoms. simple. i couldn't take the pill implants and wasn't going under a general for any op i would have to have to get my tubes tied. my sister-in-law at the time told me how selfish i was being by asking him to do that. well fuck that sweetheart. i didn't want anymore children and had been having abnormal cells for years, so there was no way i was going to put myself at further risk. he got the snip under a local and had discomfort for a couple of days. the upside was being able to have sex whenever and wherever we wanted with no further risks.
men don't seem to mind the risks women have to take to not get pregnant, or indeed the risk of being pregnant in itself, but alot still whinge at the thought of having the snip. that's exactly what my s-i-l's husband was like, but still wanted the unprotected sex [8|]
i wouldn't even trust most guys who say they are single let alone that they are on the pill.
needles
I never meant to imply that opinions could not be shared. That would be silly. If that was the way it was received I apologize.
Per your comments: it sounds to me like you just plain don't trust men, in general ("i wouldn't trust a guy who told me he was on the pill just to get out of using a condom." and "i wouldn't even trust most guys who say they are single let alone that they are on the pill") I would like to point out that you added the " ... just to get out of using a condom" part.
Yes, this thread was inspired by another where a bunch of women were suggesting that the sole onus of birth control should be on the males. I was trying to explain that if it's ultimately your body and ultimately, you don't want to have children then, there's a matter of personal responsibility. It seems to me that even if men could use a birth control pill, you ladies wouldn't trust them to. I feel sad for you women, meeting all those irresponsible, untrust-worthy people.
Of course, my opinion doesn't kiss the ass of the "pack". This makes me a "woman hater" and other vile things. Actually, it makes me a feminist. My contention has been that if you are that concerned about not getting pregnant, it's up to you to make sure that you don't because, obviously, your partners can't be trusted to do so.
As I stated, earlier: I will not go and get any procedure nor would I ask that of my partner.
For the record: My youngest son is 23 years old. I've always believed (for myself) that 30 was the cut-off age for bringing children into the world. In the ensuing years, I've never had an unwanted pregnancy occur. I've been with ladies that couldn't or wouldn't use the pill. I've been with ladies that used sponges. I've been with ladies that used IUDs and Norplant. I've been with ladies that have had hysterectomies.
In all of these cases, if there was any doubt in my mind that my partner was telling the truth about birth control or that their method was effective, I used condoms. Personal responsibility.
If a lady tells a man that she is on the pill and he fucks her, un-protected, he has no one to blame but himself, when she comes up, pregnant. By the same token, if you allow yourself to get talked into sex without contraception, you can't blame the man. You made the ultimate choice to allow it to happen. Personal responsibility.
There's a contingent here that has decided they don't like me and they're going to twist what I say and berate and demonize me. That's fine. They can live their lives in hate. They have that choice (They can also go soak their heads). I choose to ignore ignorance, closed-mindedness, and general misandry.
To the rest of you fine ladies ... as always ...
Peace and comfort,
Michael
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