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MistressDoMe -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 6:40:44 PM)
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DominaSmartass -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 6:43:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy quote: ORIGINAL: swtnsparkling You could stand a hard working, pretty, kind Fat woman next to a skinny, lazy ass, hateful, ugly woman and society would still accept the skinny woman first Hey wait... did I see that movie??? Isn't that the one where George Castanza has a tail? Lol, yes. And Cameron Diaz weighs 400 lbs. The only part they forgot in that movie was the pigs flying. By the way, you might want to hush up about the BBW mafia or you might find yourself disappeared. ;) Oh, and I just remembered a bumper sticker that has some great words of wisdom (not directed at you FDD) "I may be fat, but you're ugly and I can lose weight."

FatDomDaddy -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 6:55:39 PM)
Well Domina... You are probably right... If more BBW's stopped waiting for their Jack Black's to come flying through the door and go searching for their Ralphie Mays or their Brian Poshens, they would be much happier.

merrysbrat -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 7:20:51 PM)
I love Brian Posehn!

MadameElisabeth -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 7:58:22 PM)
ok, here goes my shtick. I am a BBW, I grew up a BBW, and will likely always be a BBW. Genetics has a lot to do with the way you are built, and i got the genes that say "You're going to be a BBW for life". that beign said, i still live a healthy life. I work out, I eat well, not to say that i don't have my moments where i'm like "holy crap i really want a doughnut" I do work in a grocery store bakery lol, and when you look at them ALL DAY you gotta eat one every once in a blue moon. Another thing, you would never guess that i weigh as much as i do. why, you ask? because muscle is denser than fat. if that needs more explination, i'll give it later. So my whole issue with this is we are supposed to be an "accepting" country. but we aren't. people suck in general. Show me a skinny anorexic model who is actually pretty and i'll go find the airbrush machiene that made her that way. I am PROUD of my BBW-ness. I didn't realize until college that guys actually liked BBW's. THAT is where the problem starts, we teach our kids that being fat automatically makes you ugly, like being in a wheel chair a makes you unable to do things for yourself. both are false. thank you and good night

BBBTBW -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:00:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MellowSir Well it shouldn't be encouraged if only because it's just unhealthy. I like women of all sizes, for bdsm/sex/friendship, but wouldn't marry a bbw mostly because my partner would literally have to keep up with vanilla activities, ie hiking, biking, etc..... There is a HUGE misnomer that BBW's are not fit enough to do these things. Thin does not mean fit...it just means thin. There are BBW's that are fit enough to participate in these types of extra curricular activities and some thin people that are not fit enough. Body type does not measure health. Everyone has different degrees of health at different weights. I am 300+ lbs and the only reason I can't participate in hiking is because I suffered a serious lower extrimity injury in a car accident. However, biking and other activities that don't involve me walking great distances are easily achievable. Don't think that just because someone carries some extra weight that she can't keep up with you. That just plain ignorant.

hisannabelle -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:11:10 PM)
greetings question, i haven't read the entire thread, just the op. i'd like to reverse the question, though; our society definitely encourages women to be underweight, sometimes to the point of emaciation, which can often have worse health effects than being obese; is THIS something we should encourage? annabelle.

FatDomDaddy -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:15:15 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hisannabelle greetings question, i haven't read the entire thread, just the op. i'd like to reverse the question, though; our society definitely encourages women to be underweight, sometimes to the point of emaciation, which can often have worse health effects than being obese; is THIS something we should encourage? annabelle. No. It's unhealthy mentally and phyiscally. Now... if only some of the obese would admit the same thing maybe we could get somewhere.

hisannabelle -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:19:27 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy quote: ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion I am 302 I went to the doctors today , absolutely clean bill of health, You need a new doctor. bullshit. i'm 50 lbs over the high normal for my height, and my bmi is 35. every last one of my health problems has nothing to do with weight. my cholesterol is great, blood pressure is perfect, etc. etc. ad nauseam. granted, i probably weigh quite a bit less than feline, but just because someone is very overweight does not mean they automatically have health problem x. my mother was extremely overweight, over 100 lbs more than me at my height, smoked 3 packs a day, and was a bad diabetic, so to look at her, you would have thought her heart was in terrible condition, but it was damn near perfect for a 53 year old woman, and she had it tested six months before she died (of a brain aneurysm). so weight and health don't necessarily correlate. annabelle.

hisannabelle -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:25:40 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy quote: ORIGINAL: Politesub53 If anyone should be responsible, its for governments in the west to ensure better details about healthy lifestyle and diets, and to ban foods known to cause health issues. HELL NO IT SHOULN'T!!!! GOVERNMENTS???? It is about personality responsibility, not government bans. And why only governments in the West??? and if it is about personal responsibility, who gave -you- the power to decide what other people should be doing? that just flies in the face of your personal responsibility theory...i call bullshit yet again. annabelle.

hisannabelle -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:36:17 PM)
greetings all, i have but one question, after reading the whole thread, and this is to those who for whatever reason feel it's appropriate to discriminate, condescend, and otherwise tell fat people what to do and how we should be living: i am 5'3" and i weigh 200 lbs. only since i started and stopped several medications for non-weight related chronic pain (fibromyalgia, fractured vertebrae, herniated disks, all stuff that came about when i was much thinner) and went through six years in active eating disordered hell (eating disorder not otherwise specified, but mainly with anorexic behaviors), which absolutely destroyed my metabolism, have i actually ever fallen into the "obese" range, although i've been overweight for most of my life. i eat very healthily and i exercise quite a bit; i have pretty much always been fit, as i am a dancer, i've walked about 3 mi. a day most days since i was a freshman in high school, etc. there are some things i simply cannot do because of my pain conditions, like running and heavy lifting, but i am capable of holding down a job that's demanding in the sense that i have to be on my feet for 8-10 hours at a time. it is -impossible- for me to lose weight. now, it may not always be this way...one day, maybe my metabolism will wake up. but, as my nutritionist says (and i have been treated by a nutritionist, psychiatrist, psychologist, and gp for both obesity AND anorexic behavior, at the same time), i cannot eat any less than 1200 calories a day (although she'd prefer i ate 1500), i cannot exercise anymore than 6-10 hrs. a week, therefore i do. not. have. any. other. options. oh yes, and my cholesterol is fine, my sugars are fine, my blood pressure is perfect, the only problem i have other than chronic pain, post-traumatic stress disorder, and generalized anxiety, is heart palpitations BECAUSE of my eating disorder and a previous addiction to stackers (caffeine, ephedra, and aspirin stacks). every single one of my health problems is NOT weigh related. so i have a question for you. why the hell should i NOT be allowed to be accepting of myself, just because by some people's standards i must obviously be fat, lazy, and unhealthy? why should i not be allowed to love my body after spending my entire life loathing it and putting it in this condition in the first place? should i just sit here and be miserable and hate myself because i'm fat and there is literally NOTHING i can do about it, other than continue to try to live as healthily as possible? really, i'm curious, since you all are the gurus on what is and is not acceptable in "fatceptance." let ME know. annabelle.

welshwmn3 -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:39:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy No, what is truly disturbing are the people who continually make excuses and demand that everyone should except they are either A) a healthy fat or B) Cannot lose weight for one syndrome or another. Our bodies are machines. The fuel is burned as calories. If you burn more calories that the amount you consume in a day and continually do so, you will lose weight because your body will start feeding off its stores. Once at a target weight, you can adjust you caloric intake to match your energy out put and maintain. It is called a lifestyle change. It is not easy, in fact it is extremely difficult and it is a lifetime commitment, just like an drunk staying away from hooch or a junkie from smack. I sincerly hope you never get something that is out of your control, yet makes you morbidly obese. I sincerely hope you never have to eat a 1200 calorie per day diet, exersize for a couple hours a day, and yet still hear people moo at you, or doctors call you a liar. I'm glad that, even though you are overweight, that you can pass judgement on everybody else for 'making excuses'. It might be that way with you (I don't know, I don't live in your body), but it's not that way for everybody. Honestly, I hope kharma never catches up to you like that.

FatDomDaddy -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:49:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hisannabelle quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy quote: ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion I am 302 I went to the doctors today , absolutely clean bill of health, You need a new doctor. bullshit. i'm 50 lbs over the high normal for my height, and my bmi is 35. And if you were one inch less and 102 lbs heavier and a doctor told you you were healthy you would believe him/her? There is no human man or woman 5-2 or 5-3 at 300 lbs who is healthy. Any doctor who says a 5'3" 302 lbs 24 year old woman is healthy should have his/her medical license revoked for malpractice.

hisannabelle -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:55:18 PM)
weight. is. not. an. indicator. of. health. it CAN be, but it is not ALWAYS. "overweight" and "unhealthy" are two separate things which SOMETIMES have correlative or causal relationships. i believe if a doctor told a woman who was 5'2" and 302 lbs., had no weight-related health problems, and whose labs were fine, that she was anything BUT healthy, they should have their medical license revoked for sheer idiocy. yes, overweight people should be cautioned about the health TRENDS regarding obesity, such as high blood pressure, diabetes, osteoarthritis, etc. but the fact that they MIGHT develop these at some undetermined point in the future (which trips me out, because i got osteoarthritis in my back when i was ten years old and normal weight) does not make them unhealthy by default. doctors have a responsibility to be HONEST to their patients, which involves informing them of current health problems or lack thereof as well as future risks. annabelle. p.s. i am still waiting for you to wave your magic wand and answer the question in my third post...help a (fat) bitch out ;)

FatDomDaddy -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:55:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: welshwmn3 ... or doctors call you a liar. That line speaks volumes

hisannabelle -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:57:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy quote: ORIGINAL: welshwmn3 ... or doctors call you a liar. That line speaks volumes in case you didn't notice, there are a hell of a lot of idiot doctors in the world. annabelle.

minnetar -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:59:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy quote: ORIGINAL: hisannabelle quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy quote: ORIGINAL: FelinePersuasion I am 302 I went to the doctors today , absolutely clean bill of health, You need a new doctor. bullshit. i'm 50 lbs over the high normal for my height, and my bmi is 35. And if you were one inch less and 102 lbs heavier and a doctor told you you were healthy you would believe him/her? There is no human man or woman 5-2 or 5-3 at 300 lbs who is healthy. Any doctor who says a 5'3" 302 lbs 24 year old woman is healthy should have his/her medical license revoked for malpractice. Sir i have two physicians in my family. i would like to know what gives You the right to belittle another about weight since You don't fall into the guidelines about being healthy. You have no room to talk and i think You should apologize to anyone You have chosen to belittle until You meet a physician's guideline about being underweight. minnetar i clearly know my health options and what i deal with - thyroid, heart, cholesterol and i have made choices in regards to it. With two docs in my family i know so no need to bash me about it.

welshwmn3 -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 8:59:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy quote: ORIGINAL: MistressDoMe ...fat discrimination will probably never end. Fat discrimination has been documented and it is real, especially when it comes to relationships and in the employment sector. Which one of these smiles rolls its eyes??? wa wa wa............. You are overweight, you admit it, you put it in your nick here. Kewl. Can you tell me truthfully any time you've been moo'd at. Or somebody has come to you in a restaurant telling you how to eat? Or that you've almost been hit by a car due to kids messing around and trying to ridicule you? Can you honestly tell me you've ever been a victem of this kind of antagonism (and if those kids had misjudged and HAD actually hit me it would have been a crime, possibly murder depending on how bad the accident would have been)? Can you honestly, as a man, say you've ever been talked down to (by anybody other than family or your doctor) for being obese? Can you? If you cannot, then I don't want to hear "waa waa waa". Discrimination and hate crimes for obese women happen every day. It's a fact of life sometimes. Heck, you are engaging in your own version of it right here by pretty much saying (not in so many words of course) that anybody who's fat just is too lazy to do anything about it (the whole 'if you burn more calories than you take in' thing). For some people, it IS lazy. For some people, it isn't. And neither you nor anybody has the right to make a determination about whether anybody else is fat because they are lazy or fat because there is a real reason for it. Because, you aren't living in their bodies. That would be like me trying to make a determination that the 5'2" person who's 100 lbs is that way because she's addicted to crack or speed. I'm not in her body, it COULD just be that she has a very high metabolism. It could be that she diets constantly and works out 7 days a week 3 hours a day. Or it could be that she's on crack. Dunno. NOT my place to make the judgement call though. Just like it's not YOUR place to make a judgement call about me or anybody else.

FatDomDaddy -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 9:11:44 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: hisannabelle in case you didn't notice, there are a hell of a lot of idiot doctors in the world. Maybe annebelle but one thing is certain... For 99.8 percent of human beings it is medically impossible to gain weight if they burn more calories than they take in. As I said earlier... "Our bodies are machines. The fuel is burned as calories. If you burn more calories that the amount you consume in a day and continually do so, you will lose weight because your body will start feeding off its stores. Once at a target weight, you can adjust you caloric intake to match your energy out put and maintain. It is called a lifestyle change. It is not easy, in fact it is extremely difficult and *it is a lifetime commitment*,

welshwmn3 -> RE: BBW's, Is this something as a society that we should encourage? (5/12/2007 9:11:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy quote: ORIGINAL: welshwmn3 ... or doctors call you a liar. That line speaks volumes Thank you for the creative cut and paste taken out of context. So, since you cannot seem to wrap your mind around the fact that there are people who gasp do exersize and yet still cannot lose weight, I'm done answering to you. In my mind, you are a small, pathethic little man.

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