MrThorns
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To continue to push all this money and effort in an attempt to get cheap oil?
Thorns papi....... not the war for oil thing again.... please...
Wow..."papi"? Is it really your intent to start calling me Daddy?
Well, I wasn't trying to stir up the argument that our government would invade another country soley for the purpose of obtaining oil resources, but what evidence do we have that says that they haven't? There is quite a lot of evidence (although it could all just be a series of interesting coincidences) that supports the war for oil argument.
Isn't the POTUS an oil man? (Okay...a failed oil man, but an oil man nonetheless)
Isn't his cabinet filled with various oil executives, Energy Barons and Defense contractors?
Here is a profile of some top figures in the administration of George W. Bush:
* Commerce Secretary Donald Evans, a longtime friend of George W. Bush, holds 940,000 options in Tom Brown, a Denver-based oil company that he headed before his cabinet appointment. Evans' financial disclosure statement listed his options to be worth between $5 million and $25 million.
* Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill is another extremely wealthy former CEO with a leading role in the Bush administration. The former head of aluminum maker Alcoa initially balked at selling off his $100 million in company stock and stock options, claiming he saw no potential conflict of interest. However, in an action that could directly benefit Alcoa, the Treasury Department recently decided to allow the financially pressed Bonneville Power Administration, which supplies electricity to Alcoa smelters in the Pacific Northwest, to reduce its payments to the government for dams and other infrastructure.
* Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, who was chief executive at the pharmaceutical company G.D. Searle and later headed General Signal Corp., has financial holdings in stocks and other investments that are worth between $50 million and $210 million, according to his financial disclosure statement. Nearly half his fortune is tied up in private investment partnerships, including venture capital funds that invest in health care, energy, the Internet and biotechnology.
* Mitch Daniels, Bush's director of the Office of Budget and Management, was a top executive at the pharmaceutical giant Eli Lilly. He listed the value of his Lilly stock at between $5 million and $25 million.
* Condoleezza Rice, Bush's Secretary of State, served on the board of directors of Chevron Oil from 1991 to 1993. The company named an oil tanker after Rice.
Other former corporate executives holding top posts in the Bush administration include: Anthony Principi, secretary of veteran's affairs, a former executive at the military contractor Lockheed Martin; White House Chief of Staff Andrew Card, who headed the American Automobile Manufacturers Association before becoming a vice president of General Motors; Joseph Hagin, deputy chief of staff for operations, a former executive at Chiquita Brands and Federated Department Stores.
I'm sure you have no interest in hearing more about the Carlyle Group and their ties with Osama Bin Lauden, the House of Saud, and the Bush family.
Is there no motivation for the current administration to secure oil resources in Iraq and Afghanistan?
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/WORLD/europe/11/26/afghan.oil/
If you don't believe CNN's take on it, there's the report from the Dept of Energy:
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/cabs/afghan.html
Unocal felt that the resources available in the Caspian region could be obtained by establishing a new government in Afghanistan:
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/intlrel/hfa48119.000/hfa48119_0.HTM
There may have already been plans in place to invade Afghanistan, long before the 9/11 attacks:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/newsnight/4354269.stm
.."The Bush administration said it was necessary to overthrow the Taliban because it was sheltering Bin Laden, who had been secretly behind the attacks of 9/11. And yet the hijackers were mostly from Saudi Arabia."
So why didn't we invade Saudi Arabia? I mean, Saudi Arabia is a brutal monarchy with a long list of human rights violations against them, shouldn't they at least be mentioned as part of the "Axis of Evil"?
I mean, seriously, this guy would drill for oil in George Washington's face on Mt Rushmore if he thought he could get away with it.
And weren't the hijackers primarily trained in the US?
Taliban fighters run rampant in Chechnya, but we're not sending troops there. Nor are we sending our troops to curb nuclear proliferation in Pakistan, India or North Korea.
I'm not sure how you come to the conclusion that the POTUS wouldn't get this country involved in a war for oil, there is plenty of evidence that supports the idea that he has.
~Thorns
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