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RE: Death by Cop~ - 5/31/2007 3:07:14 PM

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The world's problems ARE YOUR PROBLEMS, unless you wanna get the hell off our planet, THEN you can absolve yourself of responsibilities.

According to you, the responsibilities include putting bullets into the heads of every bad cop and arresting the President.

Care to go first?

After all, as a member of the militia and a citizen, you have the same authority and duty to act as those you call cowards for not doing your bidding for you.

Or are you just posting from the island of Hypokrisis?

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RE: Death by Cop~ - 5/31/2007 4:50:11 PM

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

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The world's problems ARE YOUR PROBLEMS, unless you wanna get the hell off our planet, THEN you can absolve yourself of responsibilities.

According to you, the responsibilities include putting bullets into the heads of every bad cop and arresting the President.

That is a gross misrepresentation of my stated beliefs.

ANY organization with enjoys the Public Trust has a DUTY to protect that Trust.

ONE BAD COP dishonors ALL COPS

ONE BAD SOLDIER dishonors ALL SOLDIERS

This is *because* the specifically represent America, they have a special duty to not DISHONOR AMERICA via their actions.

It is not *my* duty to enforce discipline in either the Military or the Police State, it is theirs, *IF* they have any honor, and deserve any respect.

And from what is clearly evident, they do NOT have any honor, nor do the deserve our respect.

And it is the job of a Federal Marshal, with a warrant after indictment to arrest alleged felons in the Federal Jurisdiction.

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RE: Death by Cop~ - 5/31/2007 7:34:23 PM

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The world's problems ARE YOUR PROBLEMS, unless you wanna get the hell off our planet, THEN you can absolve yourself of responsibilities.

I don't absolve myself of responsibilities, I just keep them close at hand. I'm just one person, it would arrogant of me to think that I could know everything and do everything to solve all the worlds problems. So I work on those problems I see in my immediate vicinity. I may not like what goes on in other parts of the world, and I may speak my piece about it, but I acknowledge my limitations and put my abilities to use for those around me. Now if everyone would just do that...

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RE: Death by Cop~ - 5/31/2007 9:30:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

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The world's problems ARE YOUR PROBLEMS, unless you wanna get the hell off our planet, THEN you can absolve yourself of responsibilities.

According to you, the responsibilities include putting bullets into the heads of every bad cop and arresting the President.

That is a gross misrepresentation of my stated beliefs.

ANY organization with enjoys the Public Trust has a DUTY to protect that Trust.

ONE BAD COP dishonors ALL COPS

ONE BAD SOLDIER dishonors ALL SOLDIERS

This is *because* the specifically represent America, they have a special duty to not DISHONOR AMERICA via their actions.

It is not *my* duty to enforce discipline in either the Military or the Police State, it is theirs, *IF* they have any honor, and deserve any respect.

And from what is clearly evident, they do NOT have any honor, nor do the deserve our respect.

And it is the job of a Federal Marshal, with a warrant after indictment to arrest alleged felons in the Federal Jurisdiction.

ahhh ok...now I understand

you are one of those who constantly complain about things but never take the initiative at changing things

gotcha

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RE: Death by Cop~ - 5/31/2007 10:59:32 PM

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According to you, the responsibilities include putting bullets into the heads of every bad cop and arresting the President.

That is a gross misrepresentation of my stated beliefs.

You said the words, not me...if you don't want to own them now, I can understand that.

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When the GOOD COPS start putting bullets into the heads of the BAD COPS, then maybe they'll start EARNING our respect again.

Until then? They're ALL BAD COPS.

Sound familiar??

Why should anyone care about earning the respect of someone who won't step up and take the same actions he is excoriating others for not taking?

And the public duty excuse won't fly, as a citizen you have statutory arrest powers just as the police do, and therefor, should be held to the same standard you hold others to.

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RE: Death by Cop~ - 6/1/2007 7:23:40 AM

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

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According to you, the responsibilities include putting bullets into the heads of every bad cop and arresting the President.

That is a gross misrepresentation of my stated beliefs.

You said the words, not me...if you don't want to own them now, I can understand that.

I call BULLSHIT! Provide MY QUOTATION saying it's MY RESPONSIBILITY to enforce anyone else's Duties or oversee their Honorable performance of them?

Nope. It's THEIR DUTY, which THEY ARE NEGLIGENT OF.

But hey, your hyperbole plays a lot better when you just misrepresent people. I guess it's easier than dealing with reality.

Living in the world of 24, eh?

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RE: Death by Cop~ - 6/1/2007 10:02:12 AM

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I already provided the quote (at the top of the page) where you said everyone living on the planet had responsibility for the world's problems... and you are on record as demanding that other people take specific actions to solve those problems, i.e. killing cops, killing/jailing soldiers among others without trial, arresting the President....

If you meant everyone but yourself, or if you are just engaging in keyboard commando rantings, you should have said so, instead of leaving it to be deduced.

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RE: Death by Cop~ - 6/1/2007 11:49:44 AM

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

I already provided the quote (at the top of the page) where you said everyone living on the planet had responsibility for the world's problems...

Ok.

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and you are on record as demanding that other people take specific actions to solve those problems, i.e. killing cops,

AH! I understand your problem.

Because I call for COPS TO CLEAN UP THEIR OWN RANKS, AS IS THEIR DUTY, for some crack-pot reason, you believe that for some crazy reason *I* believe in just randomly killing cops.

You are incorrect.

I apologize for not being patronizingly obvious, and putting it in terms some might consider "being talked down to".

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killing/jailing soldiers among others without trial,

Again, isn't it part-and-parcel with the authority given to act in the name of The People, the RESPONSIBILITY to preserve the honor and integrity of those with that authority?

And I'm *all for* using UCMJ Article 120 to hang child-rapists. Get back to me when the service grows a set of balls, and the backbone to actually enforce discipline, and use the UCMJ for more than harassing lawyers working at Gitmo.

You shoot deserters in combat? Doesn't that apply to rapists and other pieces of shit?

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arresting the President....

You one of them Soft-On-Crime-Pinko-Liberals?

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