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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 7:45:42 PM   
Wildfleurs


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Status: offline 		Three questions...

1) Where are these female subs/slaves that just want to have sex?
2) Are they cute?
3) Whats their phone number?

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 7:51:24 PM   
dawntreader


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Status: offline 		Well velvetears,
 
it looks like the things i forgot to address, you did...Thankyou Well said

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 7:56:35 PM   
angelic


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What the hell is sex?

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 7:57:59 PM   
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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 7:59:35 PM   
FelinePersuasion


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Status: offline 		When I had a vanilla bf who allowed me to scene with others but positivly no sex what so ever, I would of accepted no sex, but then when I was single I was looking for a Dominant life partner, and part of what a partner does in my mind is have sex. We might not have much of it, due t o both our wishes, but sex is a package deal in someone who is my full time dom. Why? Because all though I do not wish tons of sex, I do have some kind of drive, and toys and manipulation don't come close to full on penatrative sex, and the bond it gives me and him.

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 8:01:00 PM   
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~smiles~
Greetings everyone,
            Maybe it's me, but I couldn't imagine engaging in a scene/play/relationship, without that being decided beforehand. I'd find it terribly awkward otherwise, if there were different expectations on both ends.
            Well wishes,  miss

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 8:02:11 PM   
kittensmailbox


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Status: offline 		i for one do not expect sex... don't care to have intercourse, no biggy... i rather be allowed to give oral to the person who owns me...
 
my former Master was unable to have intercourse, i kinda got use to it....

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 8:03:37 PM   
LadybugBlue


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quote:

ORIGINAL: missbehaeven


~smiles~
Greetings everyone,
            Maybe it's me, but I couldn't imagine engaging in a scene/play/relationship, without that being decided beforehand. I'd find it terribly awkward otherwise, if there were different expectations on both ends.
            Well wishes,  miss



Agreed!  My thoughts exactly!

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 8:06:23 PM   
LightHeartedMaam


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Status: offline 		I have no idea.. maybe I meant vital?  I'll just go over here and sit in the corner and shut up... it just keeps getting worse.

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 8:11:22 PM   
adoracat


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quote:

ORIGINAL: LightHeartedMaam

I have no idea.. maybe I meant vital?  I'll just go over here and sit in the corner and shut up... it just keeps getting worse.


psst.....i think maybe it was "virile".  :D

kitten, who has those kinda days too...

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 8:14:44 PM   
velvetears


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Status: offline 		Are blow jobs sex too - or is that an "honor and priveledge" for the "subbie"/slave to be allowed to perform for you 

Thanks dawntreader :-)

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 8:18:26 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterHelios

unlike a true slave that dictates or demands.
  A TWUE slave? <snicker>



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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 8:21:02 PM   
MyMastersOwn


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

It's really annoying that all these subbie-slaves demand sex every time.  Can't they respect me for my mind and emotions?  Please, I'm not just a piece of meat.




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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 8:24:17 PM   
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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 8:24:26 PM   
DiurnalVampire


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MasterHelios


Yet back to My original complaint why if one wishes to be a slave must they expect full intercourse? Why can't one be satisfied to be gotten off by manipulation, fingering pinching the  nipples, clit etc? I also have diabetes so that makes for another problem to be honest here. So why can't a slave accept getting off without intercourse?

Why shouldnt they expect sex? Mine do, whether they get it all the time or not they still expect it. The same advice that everyone else ges when something like this comes up. Be upfront with what you expect from and offer to a slave. Those that want sex wont waste your time, and those that dont will show themselves.  Very few slaves are going to lie about wanting sex in order to impress someone. If someone wants something you dont, they are a bad fit. So, pass them over. Keep looking until you find what you want.
Would this be different if you didnt have diabetes and have problems giving them sex? I find it odd you felt it necessary to toss that in there in your diatribe about what they should or shouldnt be allowed to demand. You could be the poster boy for virility, and if you didnt believe slaves could demand sex, youd never mention it.

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 8:36:55 PM   
BabyNyla


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Status: offline 		hmmm ... I don't think I have ever asked/demanded for sex ... I would actually much rather session and play thna have sex.

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 9:17:42 PM   
DixieAngel


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Status: offline 		Dawntreader, loved your post.
The OP is a Dominant who's wife/slave LETS him play with other "subbies" who are never satisfied...but they are the ones who are not real. Maybe you should look a little closer at yourself first before blaming others.

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 9:43:17 PM   
LafayetteLady


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Status: offline 		Without even bothering to read the other posts, and apologizing to anyone I may be echoing here...

The people you are playing with are not "owned" by you obviously, but simply there for that particular moment.  One might ask, why can you not be happy simply being with your wife?

A slave has a master and she is owned by that master.  You are bringing them in for a scene, and they are entitled to seek whatever they seek, just as you are.  If you don't like what they seek, move on until you find someone who is seeking things complimentary to what you seek. 

But no one is the "be all end all" definer of what a "true" slave is even if they do look as some sci-fi novel as though it were a bible guiding their every life.  If you seek a Gorean slave who follows the same beliefs as you, find one and own her.  Or is that something your wife wouldn't like or permit?  If that is the case, then who exactly are you master of? 





Flame away folks.  But the constant "master whining" because someone that they don't "own" doesn't want what they want is getting so old and boring I really almost want to throw up. 

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 9:48:32 PM   
ennaozzie


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Everyones wants and needs are diffrerent, every relationship is different.

If i am looking i look for someone that is pretty good acording to my ideas if someone does not make you happy keep looking.

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 5/30/2007 10:15:37 PM   
LafayetteLady


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Status: offline 		Having now read all the posts in this thread (I was immediately fuming at the OP and couldn't wait, usually more patient, bad night), I have to add:

velvetears and dawntreader:

Beautiful.  Wish I had said it as well as you both did.   As I said, the OP hit my last nerve left for the day and I responded with the first thing that came to mind.  Not that I regret anything I said, but wanted to give kudos for the two of you for saying it so much better.

I would like to add that I find it truly amusing to the point of nearly wetting oneself at the number of frighteningly unattractive, overweight men who are looking for the "Barbie" sub.  I have come to believe that most of those fools figure that if they tack "Sir" or "Master" on their name, every beautiful woman that ignored them in the singles bars the hung out in would suddenly coming running because they now have no choice, "Mr. Fat and Ugly" is now "Sir Fat and Ugly" which is so much more appealling.

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