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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 6/4/2007 4:11:49 PM

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I say if she wants some dick....trick her out and make you some extra cash...............just kidding.......or am I ?

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 6/4/2007 4:20:06 PM

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the real question should be: "Why do Dom{me}s expect sex?"

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 6/4/2007 4:36:41 PM

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As being a submissive, and after a particularly extreme "scene", do at times, like that one on one personal time with said Dominant. Thou' more often there has been no sex, or anything afterwards. It's generally, how can i put it, to express the desire of being thankful, to show that she does adore... That cuddle time...

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 6/4/2007 5:58:48 PM

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Sorry the topic may have changed but this part interested me,

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Now I am married and faithful in that relationship
Why can't one be satisfied to be gotten off by manipulation, fingering pinching the nipples, clit etc? I also have diabetes so that makes for another problem to be honest here. So why can't a slave accept getting off without intercourse?
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i dont know if anyone else has mentioned it, but surely 'fingering, pinching the nipples, clit etc' is not being faithful?

anwyas in regards to it generally, i have two feelings i wouldnt waant to get into a relationship with someone who was married generally sex or no sex because firstly i like the protective security of feeling that i have been picked to serve. if the person is married it becomes less about who you are and more about a bit of fun, also i feel even though it seems you have an open relationship i would not want to do anything to jepordise a marriage. On the sex front, i have a very high libido and nothing beats a good hard fuck, i dont think anything replaces it i am sure many agree. and i am sure given the option many would like to be with a Master that wants to fuck them.

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 6/5/2007 3:51:45 PM

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He has trained me to be more disciplined and, now, when He does allow me to have sex (of any kind) and He tells me i can orgasm, it is the most powerful and satisfying orgasms i have ever known...

i am a very happy and grateful slave and i accept whatever amount and frequency and type of sex my Master allows me to have.

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slave joy is a beautiful spirit. her willingness to suffer deprivation at the will of her Dominant is a true credit to her Master David.

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 6/5/2007 4:48:48 PM

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 6/6/2007 7:07:52 PM

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I let subs know up front that sex will not be involved....Unless they want to take my strap-on.

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 11/19/2007 11:29:02 PM

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I know I'm repeating myself, but I wonder if you might have a double standard. Why do ALL people expect sex. Why do dominants do it? Have you considered that just because a person craves sex, enjoys sex, or desires sex with you that they do not "expect" it?

Am I being impertinent?

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 11/19/2007 11:30:32 PM

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OMG!! LMAO BooRadley. NICE!

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 11/20/2007 7:29:15 AM

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when it comes to sex this slave does not expect anything in that regard,that is a decision of my Lord or His wife that they are entitled to have.nor does this slave ask either of them for sex.for it is for their pleasure that i am even here to serve them.now don't get me wrong like any human being that's living i do have a sex drive but it is not up to me if they will use my body for that purpose.

even through being informed through my Lord and His wife the only thing i am to expect on a regular basis(with execption of the coming holiday since we have guests in the house) is a daily flogging from one or both of them.

but i do dare say if i was to come to them and say i was expecting sex from either of them i would most certainly be punished for assuming so.

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 11/20/2007 10:26:17 AM

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jeeez louise buy yer self a fucking machine...we all understand that marriage thing and diabetics

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 11/20/2007 3:32:41 PM

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Wasn't this thread dead 5 months ago? Rest In Peace.

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 11/20/2007 3:56:57 PM

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the last time i demanded sex, Ma'am just... whoa, wait a sec; i never demanded sex or anything

the closest i have came to demanding anything was when i lost a childhood friend and simply let Ma'am know that i needed some cuddle, and guess what? even then we both knew that it was entirely up to Her

a submissive's duty, at least part of my duty as a submissive, is to let Ma'am know of my needs and leave Her to decide what to do with them

but if in introductory conversation or negotiation, that is when a sub/slave informs a Dominant what their needs and hard-limits are; if the Dominant doesn't like it, they are completely able to move on to another

you say that a submissive or slave is not to make demands? well, it's not a demand but a non-negotiable point of contract... do you think that it's wrong if a sub/slave were to demand that they are allowed to have their insulin... are they suddenly not a slave? people have different needs, and if you are unwilling to meet one person's needs; there will be another who's needs aren't so repulsive to you

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 11/20/2007 6:05:48 PM

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Booo...dead thread I didn't see that, sorry.

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 11/21/2007 1:01:24 AM

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Shoot I'd LOVE to find a Master that didn't want to have sex with me. Where do you live?

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 11/21/2007 1:59:41 AM

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ORIGINAL: MasterHelios

Now I am married and faithful in that relationship but it does not mean I can't be a Master. My wife is a D/s submissive but she lets Me when I can play. she even helps Me by handing Me My toys, wipes the sweat off the slave, asks if she is ok, rubs the ice in, dries her and brings her off the X frame or Cross.

Now that was cool but now I am finding that subbies or slaves demand full sex as part of it. So typical vanilla, and so unlike a true slave that dictates or demands.

Yes it is true W/we are to discuss what W/we expect, want and seek in a BDSM relationship but a slave if a Master allows to dictate then loses that aspect os their role. In many circles a slave gives up all rights to sex, or anything but to be totally submissive in every way shape or form.

Yet so many I speak to demand this or that so that tells Me they are more subbie then true slave as I am Gorean and Y/you all know a total slave gives up most all rights if not all. Yes some will argue that the Norman books are just a lifestyle suggestion and not to be followed to the letter but then again it gives U/us a great perspective of how it can be lived which I tend to follow closely.

One said she couldn't go vanilla. Yes true once you get a taste it is hard to go back. It is a driving force for so many that want to pain or to give the pain depending on their childhood, or lifestyle that caused the initial change in their self.

Yet back to My original complaint why if one wishes to be a slave must they expect full intercourse? Why can't one be satisfied to be gotten off by manipulation, fingering pinching the nipples, clit etc? I also have diabetes so that makes for another problem to be honest here. So why can't a slave accept getting off without intercourse?
Master Helios

MasterHelios, i cannot separate sex and play in my mind for myself. i would not play with Someone with whom i would not have sex, and vise versa. i consider oral sex and other means of achieving orgasm to be sex, just as intercourse is.

i realise not E/everyone sees matters this way, and i am a submissive, not a slave.

i also hope You speak to Your MD about treatments for ED for Men with diabetes.

http://www.webmd.com/content/article/115/111957.htm

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 11/21/2007 3:52:19 AM

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i cannot separate sex and play in my mind for myself. i would not play with Someone with whom i would not have sex, and vise versa.

That sums it up for me as well. I do not, actually cannot enjoy casual scening either. For me sex and play are tied together and tied to that specific one as well.

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 11/21/2007 6:18:24 AM

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BDSM without sex??? Sorry! not interested.......................

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 11/21/2007 7:55:48 AM

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So i'm a little different, in part because i am a submissive and do not expect intercourse everytime my Dom comes over. i can get off of spankings, tit pinching-squeezing-twisting and turning-etc., and many other ways, so i don't always mind when their is an occasional intercourse involved but it doesn't and isn't my everyday style. You've just got to search and talk to others who are also not into just intercourse, sure it's fun but not everyone might not like it.

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RE: Why do subbies-slaves expect sex? - 11/21/2007 8:06:16 AM

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I'm sorry that your experience hasonly been of slaves that want and expect sex. When I began with my Master two years ago, even masturbation was not allowed. He and I are faithful to our spouses. However, over time all of our boundaries have evolved and I do get to have some kinds of sex with Master. If He and our partners had not changed my rules, I still would have been delighted and fulfilled in our relationship. I had all the sex I really needed from, my husband.

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