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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 3:01:39 PM

trainedobedients

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It would end our relationship. Why? We have an understanding that I am the whore in this relationship that is shared over and over again. He is to be faithfull to me.

Even as slave you can set boundaries. How can it be beneficial to him if your degradation goes beyond the point of repair or building?

Please keep in mind that I do talk about my situation.

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 3:09:17 PM

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~smiles~
Greetings everyone,
I'd feel very differently if it were a casual D/s relationship, and I wasn't deeply emotionally involved with the man, versus a very intimate relationship where I considered myself his slave.
If the latter were the case, I'm sure my emotions would run the whole gamut from insecure to envious to angry to shaky to tears.
I'd like to think I'd hold it together without dissolving into a screaming, insane jealous shrew before them, and save myself that final humiliation, in my initial response...But I make no promises I could even do that.
I'd worry more about the long term effects, such as self doubt/low self esteem, lingering resentment, and niggling doubts about whether or not we're right for one another.
I have serious questions about whether or not I'd want to be involved with someone polyamorous to begin with, and having to deal with it being literally before me, would likely have me in serious retreat.

Well wishes, all..miss

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 4:09:51 PM

BossyShoeBitch

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quote:

ORIGINAL: possom

Ok, picture this scene

You are bound to a chair, unable to move, and you are forced to watch your Master screw another woman. Meanwhile, this woman is verbally humiliating you.

This is not a punishment, this is something Master has organised because he wanted to.

How do you feel?

To have her verbally humiliating me wouldn't do a thing for me.
If he was obviously getting off on it, that's where my payoff would be.
I would feel the energy of the whole thing flowing from him and it would turn me on immensely. I would be totally playing a role for him.

It all depends on the dynamic and the trust between you and your partner. I would imagine that it would be something that we would have discussed in detail prior to it happening.

Oh, and if she is in any way prettier than me or has a better body, it renders all of the above null and void. I'd have to be tied to a chair because otherwise I'd be taking the bitch down and it would be a whole other scene entirely.

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 4:49:04 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: possom

Ok, picture this scene

You are bound to a chair, unable to move, and you are forced to watch your Master screw another woman. Meanwhile, this woman is verbally humiliating you.

This is not a punishment, this is something Master has organised because he wanted to.

How do you feel?

Like he didn't respect me, love me, or honor the commitments we made to each other.

As soon as I was untied, he would no longer have a Kitten.

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 4:58:44 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: possom

Ok, say he wanted to do it to enforce the fact that the sub is owned by him .. what would that make it?

I would say that if he has to go that far to enforce that owns her, he doesn't really have her.

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 5:03:28 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: possom

Ok, picture this scene

You are bound to a chair, unable to move, and you are forced to watch your Master screw another woman. Meanwhile, this woman is verbally humiliating you.

This is not a punishment, this is something Master has organised because he wanted to.

How do you feel?

I haven't read the entire thread, but I will after I post my response.

I am strictly monogomous, and I would expect my dominant to be too. I know this is unrealistic in an M/s relationship, but there ya go.

This being said, I can't see any reason, other than punishment, why he would make me watch such a spectacle. I don't see how he could think I would benefit in someway, or for training purposes.

But, being in an M/s dynamic, he would have the ultimate decision of whether or not to perform such an act. But I would hope, that, knowing how I felt about it, wouldn't choose to engage in something like that. Just my opinion.

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 5:19:50 PM

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All comes back to communication. He knows if this happened, id be out of there, so He wouldnt go there. The realtionship is for mutual satisfaction.

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 5:21:33 PM

AquaticSub

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quote:

ORIGINAL: litleone8620
I am strictly monogomous, and I would expect my dominant to be too. I know this is unrealistic in an M/s relationship, but there ya go.

From what I've seen I don't think it's unrealistic at all.

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 5:25:48 PM

litleone8620

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

From what I've seen I don't think it's unrealistic at all.

So maybe unrealistic was pushing it a bit.

But back when I was searching, the majority of dominant men who contacted me already had a slave in place, and was looking for a third, or contacting me with the intent in starting a poly dynamic. Just my experiences is all.

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 5:54:58 PM

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The whole goddamn reason for bdsm existing is to step outside of the restraints of society and to invent your own from scratch.

Not for me :)

If the scene was orchestrated well, with the right elements involved, it would be hot and fun for everyone.

It wouldn't "train" anything though- it's just fucking and humiliation, what's there to train?

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 5:55:57 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: possom
Ok, say he wanted to do it to enforce the fact that the sub is owned by him .. what would that make it?

I would say that if he has to go that far to enforce that owns her, he doesn't really have her.

Ditto.

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 6:11:10 PM

SimplyMichael

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LA,

I have no idea what you are saying.

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 6:12:54 PM

LuckyAlbatross

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That me being into bdsm or poly or any of the "alt" things that I'm into have ANYTHING to do with what societal restraints are or are not.

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 7:10:42 PM

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Okay, that makes sense.

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 7:18:16 PM

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As FemDom is a limit for me, casual or otherwise, this would simply not happen, because I would not participate, or continue to see any Dom who insisted that it would. My limits are my limits, period.

IMHO, anyone who insists that another be made unwillingly uncomfortable in the name of "personal growth" or "learning" is not in a relationship, they're self centered jerks.

If the sub willingly, competently, and independently agrees, based on their OWN feelings, fine, whatever, party on. If they feel they have to even if they don't want to- ahem- c stands for consensual.

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 7:26:22 PM

slaveluci

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Elegant
Sounds HOT!..but only if the woman knows how to humiliate without long term harm.

Ditto, Elegant. Master and I have discussed/fantasized often about a very similar scenario. I wouldn't be tied but, for a large part of the scenario, I would be forbidden to actively participate or touch them or myself sexually. I would see and hear their interaction (whether it be sex, whipping, etc). but not be a part of it. The plot has varied but it usually involves me being denied pleasure/orgasm while she is given much pleasure and permitted to orgasm freely. As for the verbal humiliation from her, that wouldn't happen. Master wouldn't allow her to say anything hurtful to me but we do imagine her being very vocal toward me as to how much she's enjoying my Master and the pleasure she's receiving

....not humiliation, but taunting, I guess you'd say.

I have never had any issues about "sharing" Master. The jealousy bone, as someone said, just isn't there especially when it comes to sexual adventures. The idea of Him taking pleasure from another woman (with or without my active participation), is extremely hot for me. I guess it's because I have total security that, no matter who He enjoys temporarily, I'll be there when she leaves and still be number one in His heart and life (His words)

. (BTW - I am in no way saying that if you would not enjoy such a scenario, that you don't have that kind of security in your relationship. I am saying that because I do have it, that enables me to imagine and participate in such scenarios without negative effects).

edited to add: The responses on this thread are a perfect example of how the very same scenario can be interpreted soooo many ways by different people. Some of us have said, "Wow that's hot. We'd love that" and others have indicated that the very idea of it is repulsive and would end their relationship. Aren't our differences beautiful? (cue the music)

......luci

< Message edited by slaveluci -- 6/17/2007 7:43:38 PM >

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 7:27:07 PM

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Years ago I wanted to share my woman with a dear friend, she didn't want to. This was not a shrinking violet, she attened orgies, etc. but didn't want to do this. I will never forget discussing this issue in therapy and the therapist so dryly asking "what sort of relationship is this again" after she complained I was pressuring her to do this...

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 8:53:18 PM

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So slaveluci...

do you want to be the one tied and I'll be with your Master or shall I be tied while you are with my Master?...<i>grin</i>

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 9:36:32 PM

slaveluci

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Elegant
So slaveluci...
do you want to be the one tied and I'll be with your Master or shall I be tied while you are with my Master?...<i>grin</i>

....well Elegant.....I'll have to be the one watching you with my Master as other males are off limits for me......the OP's story is a hot fantasy, is it not?

.......luci

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RE: How would you feel if your Master..... - 6/17/2007 9:39:58 PM

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I've basically been there. but not with the verbal humiliation. I don't get off on verbal humiliation. What he and I might do which others might see as humiliation are love words, terms of endearment. We don't role play. Whatever he says he means. But whatever that is we know each other and understand each other. No I would not have liked it if some woman thought she, not knowing me, could go there as well. He and I didn't start there. Can't imagine going there with someone to whom I had no commitment.

The beauty of him fucking other women, him hurting other women, is that it is not about me not being enough for him. It is much more a statement of his desires, his passions etc. And what makes it possible for us to do that together is that we do it as a celebration of him, together. Even with me in a cage. We make sure we both understand this so that we can continue to enjoy it and each other.

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Is it not most transformative, most earthshaking, to pierce the veils of self-deception and illusion, and crack the eggshell of ignorance, to most intimately encounter oneself? Lama Surya Das

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