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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/8/2005 10:16:51 PM   
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Perhaps it wasn't pointed right at me but.... (here's my take)

Yes, I have empathy. And I remember very well what it felt like... to be young, rebellious..and all that.
What her mother did was wrong. I'm a mother. It's still wrong. Perhaps she was exhibiting behavior that pushed her mother to look into, and read her e-mails. Or maybe her mother is just controlling and pushy, maybe nosy.
I can imagine that the choices she has that are good would be getting a job, making it on her own, paying her way. I recall being in college getting financial aid... my parents did not support me, and their tax info was not factored in. I still found and received financial aid. Nothing is impossible, it just takes more effort to find a solution sometimes.

Because choices available to you are hard... that doesn't still mean they aren't good choices. Just means they are hard choices....

I sympathize with her. I do... I don't want you, Ginger, to feel picked on..... but there comes a time when everyone needs a little push in the right direciton. I'm not saying I know your right direction.... all I can offer are my experiences, and ideas.


I am sorry, my earlier post was, admittedly, blunt and to the point. I hope it did not offend too much.

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/9/2005 12:49:51 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Raphael

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Yes, ginger does have choices, and they are good.


Oh? Tell me then, what choice does she have here that is good?



You forgot to add the next two sentences of My post.
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They are just not the choices she wants to make. ginger needs to grow up and accept where she is in life right now, and determine where she wants to be and how she is going to get there. That takes some sacrifice.

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ORIGINAL: Tempestspet

I can imagine that the choices she has that are good would be getting a job, making it on her own, paying her way. I recall being in college getting financial aid... my parents did not support me, and their tax info was not factored in. I still found and received financial aid. Nothing is impossible, it just takes more effort to find a solution sometimes.

Because choices available to you are hard... that doesn't still mean they aren't good choices. Just means they are hard choices....



Thank you, Tempestspet. Yes, this is exactly right. It might not be easy, but if ginger feels this strongly about things, then she needs to make some of those hard choices.
It was also suggested by dark~angel that she might receive some emotional and even "roof over her head" support from her father. she also has a Dom. W/we don't really know all the options, but several have been suggested.
It just takes a little time to grow up and realize that things don't always go your way. Life is full of compromises and right now ginger is on the compromising side. she has to make some sort of decision about how she is going to handle this. she has options. she just has to make up her mind to exercise them.
Sometimes life sucks. And all the bitching in the world is not going to make it better. Only ginger can make it better. By taking some sort of positive action.

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/9/2005 11:09:03 AM   
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Wow.

Regarding FAFSA.

That is -incredibly- stupid. Incredibly stupid.

It doesn't make sense. What about kids who are emancipated minors? What about people who graduate before their 24? I'm going to be 22 when I graduate, 23 when I apply for grad school. I'm off my parents tab. Does that mean I can't apply for financial aide when I'm going to grad school?

Who on Earth made up these regulations? They strike me as increibly discriminatory toward students who lack a "traditional" family structure. it seems that the government should strike out to -help- students who aren't being supported by their families even more than those who are. Don't we want everyone to be able to get an education?

STUPID!

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/9/2005 1:28:44 PM   
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Wow.

Regarding FAFSA.

That is -incredibly- stupid. Incredibly stupid.

It doesn't make sense. What about kids who are emancipated minors? What about people who graduate before their 24? I'm going to be 22 when I graduate, 23 when I apply for grad school. I'm off my parents tab. Does that mean I can't apply for financial aide when I'm going to grad school?

Who on Earth made up these regulations? They strike me as increibly discriminatory toward students who lack a "traditional" family structure. it seems that the government should strike out to -help- students who aren't being supported by their families even more than those who are. Don't we want everyone to be able to get an education?

STUPID!


Yeah, tell me about it. I had to sacrifice my independance because of this. I'm 19. I SHOULD be able to be considered financially independant from my parents, but I'm not.

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/9/2005 7:49:13 PM   
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According to http://www.fafsafilers.com/yourstatus.htm

Independent students are students who meet any ONE of the following criteria:

The student was born before January 1, 1981.

The student is currently married.

The student has a child or other dependent(s) who currently receive more than half of their support from the student.

The student is enrolled as a graduate or professional student.

The student is a qualified veteran of the U.S. military.

The student is an orphan or ward of the court, or the student was an orphan or ward of the court until the age of 18.


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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/9/2005 8:05:39 PM   
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So what would you do in my situation?


i could easily tell you. i'd move out and tell her to go screw herself. But then again, my mother is one of those people that if she is fiancially helping you out, she seems to think she can USE it to against you.

so what you lose a car? Whats worse? A car or your Dom? Tell her to screw off. And if she refuses to give you YOUR stuff, take a cop and she will HAVE to give your stuff. i've kind of a crappy relationship with my mom like you. Though i love her with all her faults. As my Dad told me, parents are human, and parents have issues too. Try not to take their issues to heart. My mother is also a strings attached love. Unfortunetly while i love her and would do anything for her, i do not count her "family". While i REFUSE to even think about putting her in a nursing home, i will not let her put me down insult me (those i care about), make me feel like dirt, use whatever misguided thoughts she has on power over me, run my life, or ect.

Basically i WILL manipulate my mother to counter balance her faults. i've absolutely no issue with it. From a lady who kicked me out at 19 while i was ICU (for suicide, because she couldnt handle it) i will take, use, manipulate to get what i need. i will PUT her in place. i WILL NOT let her faults, ruin my life or run my life. i have NO issue with it. Call me a terrible person if you like. But she is NOT my mother, or even related to me, when it comes to MY life, but she is my mother who i love dearly when it comes to being there for her.

You sound like you need to learn the tricks of the trade in dealing with your mother. Sounds cold maybe, but then again i've been putting my mother in place since i was 15 years old and shutting her up.

So you CAN love her, accept her with her faults, but work around her.

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/10/2005 7:03:48 AM   
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According to http://www.fafsafilers.com/yourstatus.htm


"...if you feel that you are an independent student despite these guidelines, you can appeal the issue at your school's financial aid office. Each school handles appeals differently, but all of them require you to file your FAFSA before they will decide your appeal. Consequently, it is important for these students to fill out the FAFSA as soon as possible so that they can get the appeals process rolling."

there is more than one way to skin a cat......or put yourself through school, or live an adult life without being dependent upon your parents after you have reached the age that society considers you to be an adult and expects you to be responsible for yourself.

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I see it as being about trust, and building a relationship with my mother that I never had as a child.


sounds like this issue is a lot deeper than just the latest act of the ongoing drama. this slave had NO expectation of privacy while living at home, as a child and as a young adult. that was one of the main reasons this slave got an apartment with a friend, worked two jobs and attended night class. it was a lot easier than fighting a losing battle over who was in "control". within a year, this slave's doctors were telling her and her parents she might not live much longer---after a scary brush with a life-threatening illness, all of us stopped acting foolish and petty.

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/10/2005 8:30:48 AM   
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You know what her main issues are? That my Master is: 1) white and 2) 51 years old. She is being racist and ageist (is that a word?) and there's nothing more to it. When I presented her with the situation of one of my black male friends who was dating a white girl at the time who's parents didn't approve of their relationship, she got pissed. How dare they discriminate against him simply because of his race! They don't even know him!...yeah, it turns out she's no different from them.


Dear, you sound like a completely spoiled little brat, and frankly, you give the rest of us who identify as submissive a bad name.

You are the one with the issues, not her. Your futile attempt to control your mother only exacerbates the fact that you are having a public tantrum here.

I also find it curious that you failed to mention during your self-centered conversation relative to the 'bling bling' factor of your collar that this Dominant is 51. Race has nothing to do with it, though it's clearly an issue for the person who is in control of you, your mother.

More than one girl has gotten herself nicely screwed up by deciding that the man in her life has her best interests at heart rather than the people who love her unconditionally and have raised her, not to mention who are footing the bills.

Take a breath darlin, and do yourself a favor and grow up. Get some perspective. If you are willing to throw away all of your significant, grounded relationships for some man who gave you a rhinestone collar, you have more problems than any of us are qualified to deal with on this board.

Seriously, you need to think about this.

Lily (who doesn't give a rats ass if you want to *cough* out her name and point fingers)

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/10/2005 8:43:30 AM   
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Ginger, probably by now you've reached a conclusion to your dilemma but maybe some other young girl will read this. i am 49 years old..a submissive..and had no idea BDSM existed until last year. i have a daughter about your age and had i learned about it from her -- as your mom has -- my reaction would NOT have been to educate myself but to do anything in my power to save my kid from the demented world she had stumbled into. in short, i would have reacted pretty much like your mom.

There just is no love like Mommy Love; and no power like Mommy Power. When my kid rouses me to protect her -- and she has very rarely done so -- i am braced to kill if necessary. if i am battling with my kid over what is best for her (o, shades of her high school days) i am determined to win, espcially if i think she's in harm's way. yes, your mom is trying to control you -- but she is acting out of fear for your well-being. Unfounded fear - but she does not know that.

The Dom you are with now is not likely to be your life partner; but the desire to be a submissive comes from a place deep inside and should not be denied. Unfortunately, you have been outed to your parents -- especially to your mom, who i assure you has certain phrases from your email burned into her memory. you have no choice now, whether you are living with her or not, but to address her fears and try to educate her. in short, without meaning to, you aroused the Mommy Power and it is still in high gear...it is your job to reduce her fears and help her return to normal.

One thing i can assure you of is that your mom is suffering terribly over this..not just because you and she are estranged but because she has wild fears for your safety and future. a fearful Mommy is a suffering woman, Ginger.

you must demonstrate skills and compassion beyond your years and reach out to your mom, understanding she is in near panic, and try to begin to educate her about BDSM and your place in it. you must emphasize to her the stringent safety rules laid down and accepted across the board for meeting people in real life, and the rules adhered to between you and your Dom to prevent any harm to you. this will not be one conversation; and your mom will not hear you at first; but you must keep trying. she is in terrible pain and you, my dear, are the only one who can assauge her fears.

Someday you will have children (if you choose) and until they lay that first baby in your arms you will not experience and appreciate Mommy Love -- or Mommy Power. so in the meantime, please consider what i have said and begin to help your poor mom recover from what must have been a terrible shock. if you wish, please feel free to contact me here on collarme by email; i am fillepink; straight; subby; age 49; in Ohio. Ginger; i will add you and your mom to my prayer list. please do not give up on trying to help your mom.







This says it all, and being a mom, with now grown boys, my youngest having just graduated high school, it is hard to let go and let your kids fall on their faces, so to speak, I was a single mom during my boys teenage years, and let me tell you we had many a war battle going on between the four of them and myself, me trying to protect them and guide them, fearing they were going to ruin their lives, etc. and them trying to establish their independance, their right to make choices, and their own mistakes, but there is a reason God gave us parents and one of them is for their wisdom and their guidance, and no one miss' that more till it is no longer there, whether thru their dying and not physically being there, or thru a argument that neither is willing to give. Life isn't fair, beleive me I have had many a lemon thrown at me, but the choice is to roll up in a ball and let the lemons hit you and you do nothing with it or stand up and try to make the best lemonade you can. If you really think your mom is being unfair about this, try getting a job, support or even buy and maintain a vehicle that will get you at least from point a to point b, pay room and board, go to school at least part time and figure out where the money will come from for that, than study, work, take care of the home, study, work, and than try to find play time. Right now you have the best of both worlds you can study, go to school, and have play time. Being grown up means taking charge of your actions, if you really want and need to be with your Dom than go for it and take charge of your life, get a job, go to school part time and play all you want but it isn't easy. I went to school for 6 hrs a week, work many 10hr days, and keep tabs on my boys, and kept a home over our heads, not an easy job, but what is? Life isn't easy, if you want something you have to work for it, it is not just handed over to you, SO YOU HAVE TO CHOOSE, not your mom, but YOU. By the way when my boys choose not to hear what I had to say, I learned one of lifes hardest lesson for any parent and that was to step back and hope for the best for them and let them take their knocks in life. so consider that you may think you know the answers, sometimes it doesn't turn out the way you want or expect them to, and who will you turn to then? My boys knew that they could always come back to me but there would be guidelines to follow and if they didn't they could find somewhere else to live just the way it was, I too had a fulltime job I was up at 4:30 a.m. to go to and a life that was not going to be put on hold so no they couldn't come home past midnight, no phone calls past 9:30 p.m. unless an emergency, if they wanted food outside of the snacks provided and regular meals provided they bought it themselves and once they had part time jobs they bought their own clothes and maintained their own vehicles. I guess what I am saying is if you want to be treated like an adult act like an adult and start talking to your mom not expecting her to bend just for you, share with her how you feel and what it is you see in this lifestyle that will make you a better person, set up ground rules of how you will respect her feelings, and if it is just something that you have to do no matter what and she just will not except it and will not allow you in the house again till you stop, than make a decision to either do as she asks or take control completely of your life, get a job, go to school part time, and meet all the things that life throws at you on your own. Its your choice.

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/10/2005 9:42:57 AM   
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Ok really folks. Its great her mom is helping her out and she should be grateful. Appreciative. Respectful of the fact her mom WANTS to help her out. i mean some parents could really careless. She should know, that she's lucky in that aspect. That her mom is concerned for her well being.

But i'm sorry for those who havent had a disallusioned life like i had. Parents DONT always know whats best, they dont ALWAYS do what they think is best for their kids. Sometimes they do whats best for them. PARENTS dont always make the right choices. Parents are People too. Parents have issues too. Parents screw up and parents arent perfect. Parents can be down right terrible people. Parents can be selfish, conviing, using game players themselves. Parents can be nothing more then sperm donors. JUST because some of you are good parents, or had good parents, doesnt make it a generalization across the board.

You havent a clue about this girls mother, the history, or even if she's IS being a spoiled brat. She very well maybe, but who are you people to judge? Who are you to sum things you have no clue about?

JUST cos her mother is footing the bills, it makes her a good person? Heck no. That doesnt MAKE her a mother. It does the things i orginially stated. But it bears no bearing on the womans charactor. MONEY and how its spent doesnt make the person. Has no bearing on the person and their thoughts. NObody KNOWS WHY her mother is helping her out, what her motivations are. ALL MOTHERS ARENT MOTHERS, same goes for fathers.

And really, if it comes down to "giving money" out and being a good parent.

Then you're telling me when my dad gave me 5 bucks because some guy tried to knock me out, makes him a DAMN good Dad cos he opened up his wallet for me.

Sometimes being disallusioned, is really finding reality, and sometimes not being disallusioned, is really being disallusioned

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/10/2005 9:47:08 AM   
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I also find it curious that you failed to mention during your self-centered conversation relative to the 'bling bling' factor of your collar that this Dominant is 51. Race has nothing to do with it, though it's clearly an issue for the person who is in control of you, your mother.


What does his age have to do with my "blingy" collar?

Honestly, I don't understand the connection between my collar, my Master's age/race, and my mother.

quote:

Take a breath darlin, and do yourself a favor and grow up. Get some perspective. If you are willing to throw away all of your significant, grounded relationships for some man who gave you a rhinestone collar, you have more problems than any of us are qualified to deal with on this board.


As a matter of fact, what the fuck does my collar have to do with this at all?

Perhapss I consider my relationship with my Master "significant and grounded"?

Perhaps you should read the entire thread instead of picking and choosing phrases to respond to... that also seem completely irrelevant to your post.

Get off your high horse and pretend to be half way literate.

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/10/2005 9:52:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RiotGirl

You havent a clue about this girls mother, the history, or even if she's IS being a spoiled brat. She very well maybe, but who are you people to judge? Who are you to sum things you have no clue about?



ginger asked everyone for their opinions on this public forum. I don't believe we are judging her, just giving her what she has asked for, from all of our different perspectives.

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JUST cos her mother is footing the bills, it makes her a good person? Heck no. That doesnt MAKE her a mother. It does the things i orginially stated. But it bears no bearing on the womans charactor. MONEY and how its spent doesnt make the person. Has no bearing on the person and their thoughts. NObody KNOWS WHY her mother is helping her out, what her motivations are. ALL MOTHERS ARENT MOTHERS, same goes for fathers.


Her mother doesn't HAVE to help her out, but she is choosing to do so. If there are conditions attached, hell, that's life. Very few things are unconditional.


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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/10/2005 9:55:28 AM   
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And you continue to show your true colors.....

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/10/2005 10:04:38 AM   
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ginger asked everyone for their opinions on this public forum. I don't believe we are judging her, just giving her what she has asked for, from all of our different perspectives.


Hmmm... I don't know what the hell you call Protag's post then.

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/10/2005 10:08:14 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ginger21

Hmmm... I don't know what the hell you call Protag's post then.


<sigh> ginger, if you read between the lines of Lily's post you will see what she is suggesting. As far as the delivery goes, they don't call her "Protagonist" for nothing!

There, I'm done being go between, I know Lily can defend herself.

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/10/2005 10:12:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ProtagonistLily

And you continue to show your true colors.....

L


How the hell else am I supposed to respond to your attack?

I never said I wasn't spoiled. As a matter of fact, I know I am. It's the result of me getting almost anything I asked for- material things, and not getting the emotional support I needed.

My point is, I don't feel like this is exclusively about money issues, as it seems many do. I want her to trust my decisions, I want her to know I'm safe, I want to know that she cares about me being happy, and I want her to know that I'm not doing what I'm doing to hurt her. You know, money and financial support doesn't equate to love to me. It never will.

And thank you for not explaining what you meant in your post... it helps prove my point. You show your true colors, too. *eye roll*

You sure you don't wanna change that screen name to AntagonistLily? It seems MUCH more fitting, especially here.

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/10/2005 10:20:07 AM   
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ginger, may I ask you a few questions please?

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I never said I wasn't spoiled. As a matter of fact, I know I am. It's the result of me getting almost anything I asked for- material things, and not getting the emotional support I needed.


Has that gone on your entire life? Like if you wanted a toy that everyone else had when you were little and asked for it (demanded it perhaps?) it was given to you? What kind of emotional support are you talking about here? For example, did you have trouble at school and tell your mom about it and she didn't hug you and try to help you find ways to make it better?

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My point is, I don't feel like this is exclusively about money issues, as it seems many do. I want her to trust my decisions, I want her to know I'm safe, I want to know that she cares about me being happy, and I want her to know that I'm not doing what I'm doing to hurt her. You know, money and financial support doesn't equate to love to me. It never will.


Why are you telling US this and not your mother? There HAS to be some way that the two of you can sit down together and TALK, not argue. Whether it's now or sometime in the future, the only other alternative I can think of for the two of you is family counselling. There are kink-aware professionals in your area, even if you go alone at first it might help the two of you.

I really hope you don't take this as a flame, it's not.

cello


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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/10/2005 10:22:46 AM   
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quote:

More than one girl has gotten herself nicely screwed up by deciding that the man in her life has her best interests at heart rather than the people who love her unconditionally and have raised her, not to mention who are footing the bills.


I don't feel she loves me unconditionally....and if she did, wouldn't it still not matter if I "screwed up" by choosing to be with someone that didn't have best interests in mind or that my mom didn't approve of? Shouldn't she still be there for me emotionally?


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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/10/2005 10:28:33 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ginger21

I don't feel she loves me unconditionally....and if she did, wouldn't it still not matter if I "screwed up" by choosing to be with someone that didn't have best interests in mind or that my mom didn't approve of? Shouldn't she still be there for me emotionally?




ginger, if and when you have children someday I think you will understand a little bit better. Whether she lets you know it or not, or whether you want to believe it or not, I'm sure your mother is hurting too, in many ways. Like I said, the two of you need to find a way to work this out, and hopefully, MAYBE you will be able to acheive some sort of emotional relationship together.

cello

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RE: Mommy Dearest... (grr!) - 6/10/2005 10:31:05 AM   
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I don't feel she loves me unconditionally....and if she did, wouldn't it still not matter if I "screwed up" by choosing to be with someone that didn't have best interests in mind or that my mom didn't approve of? Shouldn't she still be there for me emotionally?


Who says she isn't? The only unconditional position it seems she's taken is to not support you financially "unconditionally". Why is this a financial discussion? Because it seems to be the only problem you have with your mom. She can still love, respect, and have your best interests in mind and be consistent with her decision. When/if your decision changes she may even be there for you emotionally. But for now - she just doesn't want to live with YOUR decision within her house.

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