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Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 8:32:44 AM   
Tatshua


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Status: offline 		Right now there is a thread about Aspergers syndrome that is a very intresting read. And educational to those who'd like to know more. This thread kindof got born in a sugjestion from the Asperger thread that there should be a broader thread about different syndromes and so on.

So, I wonder, is there anyone here that has a certain syndrome or something similar that can make it a little harder to do your fetish? Or maybe something that you have to think about when in the middle of a scene or just telling your sub what to do?

For myself it's not that bad except that I have bad hearing, so a dom might have to speak a little clearer for me to be able to hear. And I also have bad balance, if that whould ever be any problem.

So... Yeah, got any experience to share of how you go around the problems that might occure of a sub or a dom has a certain syndrome that might make it hard, or impossible, to do some things?
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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 8:35:49 AM   
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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 8:38:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't know if bi-polar would fall in this category but I would say it could because of the mood swings, if untreated or sometimes even treated you can have a bad mood swing. I have noticed sometimes in my Master gets upset with me or I can't do something he has asked of me I will break down crying and if we are in a scene that ends it because he knows the tears are from emotional bi-polar things not from the scene itself. And sometimes if I am irritable and he asks me to do something I get so mad at him, it is hard to control things like that at times. I hope this is related to what you were asking.

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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 8:45:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Anxiety disorder here. Because of it I'm not suited to a relationship where obedience no matter what is primary. I am suited for what I have, a relationship focused on emotional transparency. And I went looking for a partner who would believe what I tell him.

So if I say that I don't feel up to a bondage session, it isn't topping from the bottom. It's a statement of fact, that forcing me to do so is likely to set off an anxiety attack. Since he hates it when I have them (as do I), he accepts my word that I can't cooperate that minute and that I will talk to him about what's causing the anxiety as soon as I figure it out.

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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 8:50:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hubby and i both have very bad hips and it's hard to find comfortable positions for any play. 

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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 8:57:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have uncontrolled high blood pruessure. I didnt think it was a problem but, i had an issue with it just a few days ago when i was with my Master.

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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 9:00:39 AM   
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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 9:07:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: proudsub

Hubby and i both have very bad hips and it's hard to find comfortable positions for any play. 

Awww...i DO sympathize...my hips sound like a bowl of rice krispies ...LOL.Master is hard of hearing and He can even hear them pop and crack at times...LOL


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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 9:17:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Crohn's disease - I have more problems from the steroids and their effect on my drives and moods and personality than the disease when it comes to sexuality. When I'm not on steroids, things are great, when I am they totally flatten my sex drive - this can go for months at a time, fortunately it's been 2+ years since I've needed them. I have to have a patient partner who has more invested in me than lots of hot play all the time, and I need submissives who can handle periods of being very self-driven, who are loyal to me-the-person and not just me-the-Dominant. I choose open relationships, though, for many other reasons, but one benefit is allowing people to meet their needs and not holding their desires hostage when I'm sick.


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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 10:07:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Everyone has something that makes it harder I think- whether it's a 2 year old or a broken down jeep, or mood disorder. 

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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 12:02:20 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Everyone has something that makes it harder I think- whether it's a 2 year old or a broken down jeep, or mood disorder. 


The difference is that you don't choose to have a syndrome and you can't usually "fix" it.

Having a 2yr old is a choice...you don't get a right to whine about it affecting your life.

If your jeep is broke down, fix it. Again, no reason to whine.

Those of us with syndromes/disorders didn't choose them and depending the problem may not be able to fix it, so comparing to another person's poor decision to reproduce or not fix their jeep doesn't really equate.

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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 12:11:38 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Tatshua

Right now there is a thread about Aspergers syndrome that is a very intresting read. And educational to those who'd like to know more. This thread kindof got born in a sugjestion from the Asperger thread that there should be a broader thread about different syndromes and so on.

So, I wonder, is there anyone here that has a certain syndrome or something similar that can make it a little harder to do your fetish? Or maybe something that you have to think about when in the middle of a scene or just telling your sub what to do?

For myself it's not that bad except that I have bad hearing, so a dom might have to speak a little clearer for me to be able to hear. And I also have bad balance, if that whould ever be any problem.

So... Yeah, got any experience to share of how you go around the problems that might occure of a sub or a dom has a certain syndrome that might make it hard, or impossible, to do some things?



I had a submissive who suffered from diabetes.  Had to be mindful of that when I did extended striking play.  Also had to be mindful of just how tight I bound her and how I bound her.

I think the difficulties in most situations can be worked out if there is patience exhibited from both sides.  However, and I know I may take some slams for this, remember that a potential partner has the right to say "I don't want to deal with that", whether it is a submissive saying that to a potential dominant with a "condition/syndrome/chronic disorder" or a dominant stating that to a potential submissive and it does not make them a bad person.

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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 12:17:26 PM   
Tatshua


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Status: offline 		Ofcourse not. You shouldn't take risks your not ready to make. You always have the right to say no. A relationship is always about two (Or more, if your into that) people. A relationship wont work if not everyone is happy. And sometimes a person might not be able to be happy with a partner if he/she can't handle the situation.

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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 12:31:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GeekyGirl

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ORIGINAL: LuckyAlbatross

Everyone has something that makes it harder I think- whether it's a 2 year old or a broken down jeep, or mood disorder. 


The difference is that you don't choose to have a syndrome and you can't usually "fix" it.

Having a 2yr old is a choice...you don't get a right to whine about it affecting your life.

If your jeep is broke down, fix it. Again, no reason to whine.

Those of us with syndromes/disorders didn't choose them and depending the problem may not be able to fix it, so comparing to another person's poor decision to reproduce or not fix their jeep doesn't really equate.
Geeky, I have to disagree with you..yes Um's are choice,,yes jeep can be fixed, and yes syndromes are not choices, but you also have to realize as LA attempted to say, at least in my interpretation, is that, we all have baggage of one kind or another, voluntarily or not, that has an impact and can become issues or problems within a relationship or even if such a relationship will develop, dependant upon the criteria of what one seeks....Tempting

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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 12:50:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Maybe that's what LA meant to say, but she also implied that everyone's baggage is equal, and that's ridiculous.  Having a jeep that breaks down doesn't compare to multiple sclerosis.

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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 1:04:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		LA is right in that everyone has problems and if you're looking for someone with zero issues, expect to keep looking forever. But what one person can handle, would drive another away.

Always the best way to deal is to understand your own issues clearly enough that you can explain them to a potential partner. Because if you don't understand what's going on and how best to handle it, then it is highly unreasonable to expect someone else to be an instant expert.

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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 1:08:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I agree that everyone has baggage...but some baggage is optional and other types aren't.

I can hardly see comparing a broken jeep to someone with the severe issues of bipolar or aspergers.


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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 2:05:33 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lordandmaster

Maybe that's what LA meant to say, but she also implied that everyone's baggage is equal, and that's ridiculous.  Having a jeep that breaks down doesn't compare to multiple sclerosis.
You may need to look into the intent rather than the actual wording..And face it, dealing with any issue wether great or small in anyones mind is interpretive..Broken down jeep may be insignificant to you, but may mean a great deal to someone else..their livelihood, getting to that much needed MD appt.,the ability to be able to carry on with their lives..and possibly that broken jeep costs so much to repair and you do not have the funds to do so..what then?..bus?..maybe there is no bus available..it is all in how that is viewed by the individual and its impact upon them...Tempting

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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 2:13:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Having diabetes does come into play in how I live my life. Until I get some things lined out with it, I wonder if I should let anyone into my life. The two main concerns for me are my sight, and my kidneys. If I go blind, is that fair to someone involved with me?
 
Having said that, I don't think I'll lose my eyesight, and the kidneys are okay as of now, and may be getting better. I'm fighting as hard as I can to regain maximum health, and don't intend on losing that fight.

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RE: Problems because of syndromes, diseases etc.? - 6/30/2007 2:14:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		2-dimensional scoliosis (curved spine), bad hip, and schizo-effective disorder (a combination of schizophrenia and bi-polar). I have found that only the back really interferes.

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