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RE: THIS is what a Pussy looks like! - 7/17/2007 12:50:37 PM   
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I want my govt. Troops to be a hundred times more brutal than al qeada is in persuing and killing every last one of them.



Long as you dont complain when they decide your beard makes you look like a terrorist and throw you in Gitmo.

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p.s.  Regarding your comments about blowing up an Al Qaeda member, how exactly do you tell the members of Al Qaeda from everybody else? 

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RE: THIS is what a Pussy looks like! - 7/17/2007 3:36:22 PM   
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I want my govt. Troops to be a hundred times more brutal than al qeada is in persuing and killing every last one of them.
I'm really surprised that the CIA hasn't killed Bin Laden's whole family and I mean 5th cousins three times removed.
Where the hell is all this "overwhelming power" that we should be using?


.........escalation is exactly what is predicted by the enemy, in fact Popeye they want your government to do many of the things you ask for. Dropping a nuke on Pakistan, as you have in other threads suggested, is precisely what they want you to do. In the long run you'd be handing them the moral victory they crave, thus justifying in their eyes more 9/11's for years to come.
Your suggestions are exactly what Al Qaeda recruiting officers want the West to do. So the inevitable conclusion and question is.........how long have you been an Al Qaeda operative and why are you hiding Bin Laden?

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RE: THIS is what a Pussy looks like! - 7/17/2007 6:03:12 PM   
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It is not particularly dangerous



Im sure the families of the firefighters cut off, surrounded by blazing fires, and killed in that firestorm in California (forget which fire) last year will be happy to know this.

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RE: THIS is what a Pussy looks like! - 7/18/2007 5:49:27 AM   
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It is not particularly dangerous



Im sure the families of the firefighters cut off, surrounded by blazing fires, and killed in that firestorm in California (forget which fire) last year will be happy to know this.

Sinergy 

Sinergy:
I fail to see your point.  That firemen die in the line of duty is a given....but on the whole there are many occupations which are much more dangerous...like trash collector.
thompson

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RE: THIS is what a Pussy looks like! - 7/18/2007 9:20:55 AM   
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Sinergy:
I fail to see your point.  That firemen die in the line of duty is a given....but on the whole there are many occupations which are much more dangerous...like trash collector.
thompson



I am not saying it is not a given. 

While there is a lot of "down time" where the firemen are doing things like saving cats and helping people get their hair unstuck from appliances, when something potentially deadly happens they are the ones who are called.  When planes fly into buildings, they go inside.  When some rich idiots house is threatened on Mulholland Blvd, they go into it to save the cat.  When there is a fire in a fireworks factory, they go inside to get the people out.

They made the choice to work in an extremely dangerous profession, even if most of the time it is not.  The reason so few of them die is probably because they have the training, the equipment, the fitness, etc., to survive the situations their job requires them to get in to.

To make the statement that they have a "safe" job seems denigrating towards their profession.

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p.s.  As far as dangerous jobs go, the only job more dangerous in terms of percentages of deaths on the job for workers than professional longshoreman is professional fisherman.

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RE: THIS is what a Pussy looks like! - 7/18/2007 12:14:54 PM   
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Sinergy:
I fail to see your point.  That firemen die in the line of duty is a given....but on the whole there are many occupations which are much more dangerous...like trash collector.
thompson



I am not saying it is not a given. 

While there is a lot of "down time" where the firemen are doing things like saving cats and helping people get their hair unstuck from appliances, when something potentially deadly happens they are the ones who are called.  When planes fly into buildings, they go inside.  When some rich idiots house is threatened on Mulholland Blvd, they go into it to save the cat.  When there is a fire in a fireworks factory, they go inside to get the people out.

No fire captain or chief will risks his men's or women's lives to save property...if the chief deems the situation too dangerous he will pull his people off.

They made the choice to work in an extremely dangerous profession, even if most of the time it is not.
My point is that it is not extremely dangerous, as is verified by the statistics.

The reason so few of them die is probably because they have the training, the equipment, the fitness, etc., to survive the situations their job requires them to get in to.
Not only the above but also the fact that they do not take unnecessary risks, which is as it should be.

To make the statement that they have a "safe" job seems denigrating towards their profession.
In comparison to more dangerous jobs it is safe.  That you think it seems denigrating toward their profession is just your opinion and not germane to the point being discussed. 
They perform a valuable and useful service for which, in the main, they are well compensated. 
If it were up to me I would be most happy if they spent their whole time on the fire department sitting on their asses or polishing fire engines...that would mean no fires.
As a sidelight to this discussion, firemen are the number one source of arson induced fires.

Sinergy

p.s.  As far as dangerous jobs go, the only job more dangerous in terms of percentages of deaths on the job for workers than professional longshoreman is professional fisherman.
Professional longshoremen are not even in the top ten most dangerous jobs but fork lift drivers are high up on the list of the top one hundred, so be careful budd. 
Even cops don't make the top ten.  In fact more cops die in traffic accidents on the way to and from work than die from homicides in the line of work.
thompson



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RE: THIS is what a Pussy looks like! - 7/18/2007 6:18:47 PM   
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RE: THIS is what a Pussy looks like! - 7/18/2007 6:40:02 PM   
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well i am sorry guys but firement aint even on the list!  2004 i think


The 10 most dangerous jobs by fatality rate are:   Rank Occupation Death rate/100,000 Total deaths 1 Logging workers 92.4 85

2 Aircraft pilots 92.4 109

3 Fishers and fishing workers 86.4 38

4 Structural iron and steel workers 47.0 31


5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 43.2 35


6 Farmers and ranchers 37.5 307

7 Roofers 34.9 94

8 Electrical power line installers/repairers 30.0 36


9 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 27.6 905


10 Taxi drivers and chauffeurs 24.2 67
http://money.cnn.com/2005/08/26/pf/jobs_jeopardy/


2006
Rank Occupation Death rate/100,000 Total deaths

1 Fishers and fishing workers 118.4 48

2 Logging workers 92.9 80

3 Aircraft pilots 66.9 81

4 Structural iron and steel workers 55.6 35

5 Refuse and recyclable material collectors 43.8 32

6 Farmers and ranchers 41.1 341

7 Electrical power line installers/repairers 32.7 36

8 Driver/sales workers and truck drivers 29.1 993

9 Miscelleneous agricultural workers 23.2 176

10 Construction laborers 22.7 339http://money.cnn.com/2006/08/16/pf/2005_most_dangerous_jobs/index.htm



Then there is the best jobs to have

Firefighter. All the firefighters I've met like their jobs. Disadvantages such as irregular hours and living in a firehouse are usually outweighed by the exciting, rewarding work of responding to emergencies and helping people. Plus, typically only a high school diploma or perhaps a two-year fire science degree is required. According to the U.S. Department of Labor, firefighting ranks 14th in likelihood of dying on the job. That sounds daunting–but Nos. 1 and 2 are truck driver and farmworker, careers most people don't think of as inordinately dangerous.

http://biz.yahoo.com/special/job06_article1.html



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