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ORIGINAL: shyinini

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

I see this thread slippng into treating all drinking and drug use, as no different from the worst alcohol and drug abuse, which is not a useful way of dealing with real life.

Back about 7 yrs ago, I was speaking with a top, planning a trip to bottom.  He told me he smoked, which I had no problem with.  But when I got there, his house was filled with marijuana smoke.

It was a long drive. Out of State even.
I told him I was out of there cause he lied, and yes, I would have never agreed to come if I knew it was weed he smoke not tobacco.
 
He told me he would refrain.  I told him it wasnt good enough, his house had second hand smoke everywhere.  We went out to dinner while his sistercame to clean up and turn on the A/C and fan out the "fumes."
 
It was a long drive back home and I really didnt want to drive all the way back so I hesitantly agreed to stay.
 
But I did refuse to swallow his cum for which he spanked me.  But I liked my safe word.
 
During the night, he left, about 2am.  I got up and packed my bag.
Waiting for his return, I verbally let him have it, as he smelt of weed and his eyes were totalled red.  As I left, with only 2 hrs sleep, he made comment about the fact he'd had a great time doing coke when he was gone.
 
I didnt hear from him again.
 
About one month ago, I was visible on YIM when a very familiar screen name popped up and greeted me.  I struggled with it and FINALLY it dawned on me who it was.
 
I gave him some tongue lashing to which he admitted he didnt appreciate but deserved it.
 
He told me a story of having been in a terrible, near fatal accident about one week after I left his place. He'd been comatose for 18 months and in rehab facilities ever since and only recently had he been able to live on his own.
He was high when he had the accident.
 
I blocked him.
 
 
Sir's girl, who has occasionally acted like a fool when even slightly anebriated.     

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  i'm sorry, am i the only person who is confused by this last post by nohigherpurpose? who and what are you responding to?

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ORIGINAL: witchywoman313

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ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth
There are 3 fraternity brothers sitting in state prison because of their excessive drinking hazing ritual. The drink they made their pledge drink? Water. 

Ignorance kills - somtimes I wonder why dead bodies aren't strewn all over the streets.

Id like to here more about the pledge drink water story.  Drinking too much water too fast can be extreamly dangerous, it can even kill you.  Ive heard its even come into popularity as a way to commit suicide.

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They were forced pushups and trivia quizzes. Through it all, the Carrington and Quintana were ordered to drink from a five-gallon jug of water, which was filled over and over. Fans blasted icy air on their wet bodies. They urinated and vomited on themselves. Then, according to DA Ramsey, something went terribly wrong.
Carrington collapsed and started a seizure. Fraternity members didn't initially call an ambulance. By the time they did, it was too late. Carrington was taken to Enloe Medical Center, where his heart stopped. At about 5 a.m. he was pronounced dead from water intoxication, which caused the swelling of his brain and lungs. Not a single fraternity brother was there, a fact that still haunts his mother.
The Butte County courtroom of Judge Stephen Benson was awash in red, the color worn by family and friends of Matthew Carrington to honor him. Gabriel Maestretti, deeply religious as a boy, had never been in trouble before. Yet, according to the district attorney, he was the most culpable in Carrington's death. He stood before the judge, baby-faced, with the physique of a linebacker, choking back tears.
"I did what I did out of a misguided sense of building brotherhood, and instead I lost a brother. I will live with the consequences of hazing for the rest of my life," Maestretti told the court. "My actions killed a good person, and I will be a felon for the rest of my life, and I'll have to live with that disability, but I'm alive and Matt's not. "
Moments later, Maestretti and three of his fraternity brothers -- John Fickes, 20, Carlos Abrille, 22, and Jerry Lim, 25 -- were handcuffed and led off to jail.

Source: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5012154

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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

when what others do effects what i do then yes... for example we are at a party someone drinking or on drugs does something stupid and someone dies from it guess what you now have cause and effect..no more play party not to mention dealing with empathy for that persons death. and police comming to your work among other places doing a investigation on accedental manslaughter because you were to stupid  to use drugs or drink... it does effect everyone... one way or the other  yep yep

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ORIGINAL: LeatherBentOne

Those who indulge will always find ways to justify, rationlize or minimize their usage.  Those who dont, will forever take their stand. 

For me, what one does is their own business, provided they are educated and disclose useage to those they play with.  My choice is no alcohol, no illegal drugs, and full disclosure of medications so I can be aware of side effects, contraindictions and any necessary precautions.

That's how I prefer to live my life and that doesnt stop me from wishing others would do the same.  However, I resent someone trying to push illegal drugs/alcohol on me as much as those who try to cram their self-righteous viewpoints of what others should do down the throats of said others.

We make choices.  We take or run away from the responsibilty of those choices.  Some choices are good ones, and some are disasterous.  But, there's always one thing we can never control ~ the actions of others, no matter how much we like or dislike them for whatever reasons that be.

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

I see this thread slippng into treating all drinking and drug use, as no different from the worst alcohol and drug abuse, which is not a useful way of dealing with real life.

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ORIGINAL: octavia

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ORIGINAL: shyinini

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

I see this thread slippng into treating all drinking and drug use, as no different from the worst alcohol and drug abuse, which is not a useful way of dealing with real life.

Back about 7 yrs ago, I was speaking with a top, planning a trip to bottom.  He told me he smoked, which I had no problem with.  But when I got there, his house was filled with marijuana smoke.

It was a long drive. Out of State even.
I told him I was out of there cause he lied, and yes, I would have never agreed to come if I knew it was weed he smoke not tobacco.
 
He told me he would refrain.  I told him it wasnt good enough, his house had second hand smoke everywhere.  We went out to dinner while his sistercame to clean up and turn on the A/C and fan out the "fumes."
 
It was a long drive back home and I really didnt want to drive all the way back so I hesitantly agreed to stay.
 
But I did refuse to swallow his cum for which he spanked me.  But I liked my safe word.
 
During the night, he left, about 2am.  I got up and packed my bag.
Waiting for his return, I verbally let him have it, as he smelt of weed and his eyes were totalled red.  As I left, with only 2 hrs sleep, he made comment about the fact he'd had a great time doing coke when he was gone.
 
I didnt hear from him again.
 
About one month ago, I was visible on YIM when a very familiar screen name popped up and greeted me.  I struggled with it and FINALLY it dawned on me who it was.
 
I gave him some tongue lashing to which he admitted he didnt appreciate but deserved it.
 
He told me a story of having been in a terrible, near fatal accident about one week after I left his place. He'd been comatose for 18 months and in rehab facilities ever since and only recently had he been able to live on his own.
He was high when he had the accident.
 
I blocked him.
 
 
Sir's girl, who has occasionally acted like a fool when even slightly anebriated.     

Is this a test to see if we are reading?  Or am I missing something big here?  I don't get how this line relates.  And.. just to clarify, this guy opened up to you, accepted your rebuke, then told you of the HUGE price he paid to learn this dear valueable life lesson, and your response was to block him? 

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ORIGINAL: shyinini

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ORIGINAL: octavia

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ORIGINAL: shyinini




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But I did refuse to swallow his cum for which he spanked me.  But I liked my safe word.
 
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I gave him some tongue lashing to which he admitted he didnt appreciate but deserved it.
 
He told me a story of having been in a terrible, near fatal accident about one week after I left his place. He'd been comatose for 18 months and in rehab facilities ever since and only recently had he been able to live on his own.
He was high when he had the accident.
 
I blocked him.
 
 
Sir's girl, who has occasionally acted like a fool when even slightly anebriated.     

Is this a test to see if we are reading?  Or am I missing something big here?  I don't get how this line relates.  And.. just to clarify, this guy opened up to you, accepted your rebuke, then told you of the HUGE price he paid to learn this dear valueable life lesson, and your response was to block him? 

Yes Octavia, I did block him.  Did you think me morally apprehensible because you assumed I blocked him before I communicated with him? 
 No, I was clarifying.  Personally I would have responded differently to someone who was A, admitting their fault, and B, admitting it to me. 
That particular sentence was put there cause I guess I just assumed everyone understood that what goes into the body IS synthesized and excreted. 
 
If seminole fluid can contain crack and heroine, I am sure it contains marijuana ........ 
 
 
Sir's girl

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ORIGINAL: Satyr6406

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

I see this thread slippng into treating all drinking and drug use, as no different from the worst alcohol and drug abuse, which is not a useful way of dealing with real life.

As far as I know, drinking and drug use are usually for EFFECT. People use these things to alter themselves in some way. True enough, there are people who can't "get normal" until they've "used" in the morning but, that is someone who has slipped WAY down the scale.
 
 
 
 
 
Peace and comfort,
 
 
 
 
 
Michael

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IMHO those 4 words should never be used together in the same sentence or in the same frame of mind---