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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 7:25:53 PM

MagiksSlave

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ORIGINAL: Archer

See now you are making a judgement about what someone else feels a need to do. "In't testing imature" Value judgement.

Your declaration that you would do XYZ makes it only theoreticly true. For some knowing theoreticly is enough for others they need to know reality.

Not needing the reality proven is fantasy based and thus not real. See how the judgement can be reversed on you?????
(Note I'm not judgeing either way really, I'm mearly illustrating it's a Who's Ox is getting gored situation.)

Call it judgmental all you want, but it is my opinion on the matter.. I dont think it as a matter of if it is never tested then it isnt real, If the Dr tells you you are elergic to peanuts do you need to go eat peanuts and go into anafalaxes to make it true or isnt it just as much the truth if you never test it?? Just my thought, honestly there is very little chance that anyone will make me think testing another persons word is anything more then a manipulative un trusting game...

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 7:30:41 PM

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Er...I don't think it does.

However, I'm a sadist. Suffering, uncomfortable people are hot. So it would likely be hard to cede power to a dominant with strong sadistic tendencies without engaging in some suffering.

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 7:33:08 PM

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Slaves suffer because they don't do what they choose to do. But to say that they MUST suffer to be a slave, I think you can't say that.

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 8:28:41 PM

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I suffer because Master gets extreme amounts of pleasure from my suffering, because I adore my Master and my devotion is absolute. I may be soaked from tears but when allowed to gaze upon the face of my smiling Master and hear Him whisper... that's my good girl- I adore my suffering at His hand.

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 8:50:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave
Call it judgmental all you want, but it is my opinion on the matter..

Thats right, no matter how stupid, idiotic or bigoted it is, it's your opinion and you should stick with it instead of listening to others and possibly seeing it in a new light.

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If the Dr tells you you are elergic to peanuts do you need to go eat peanuts and go into anafalaxes to make it true or isnt it just as much the truth if you never test it?? Just my thought,

Here's another thought for you, sweetheart, just how do you think the doctor figured out your allergic to peanuts? He confided in a magic eight ball? Pulled it from the toilet bowl after going twosies? Spoke to his swami? Nope, he (dun, dun, duuunnnn) ran tests. Tests that confirmed you were allergic to peanut and/or whatever else.

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honestly there is very little chance that anyone will make me think testing another persons word is anything more then a manipulative un trusting game...

ms

Honestly, some "slaves" have no business thinking and you prove that point. And for fuck sake, don't use words you can't spell and/or are to lazy to spellcheck.

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 8:59:52 PM

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And for fuck sake, don't use words you can't spell and/or are to lazy to spellcheck.

That would be "too" lazy to spellcheck. How is the view from your petard?

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 9:03:29 PM

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you know how stupid that is. to say things like that... did you know sigmond freud could not spell either. he had to have another person write his letters for him to the president when he talked about atomic power and that the germans could be close to it historical fact

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 9:06:45 PM

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Then I suspect that Sigmund Freud had the good sense not to ridicule others regarding their spelling. A little of that good sense would go a long way with Mr. Discipline, as it is evidently in short supply.

John

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 9:10:48 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

quote:

ORIGINAL: Archer

See now you are making a judgement about what someone else feels a need to do. "In't testing imature" Value judgement.

Your declaration that you would do XYZ makes it only theoreticly true. For some knowing theoreticly is enough for others they need to know reality.

Not needing the reality proven is fantasy based and thus not real. See how the judgement can be reversed on you?????
(Note I'm not judgeing either way really, I'm mearly illustrating it's a Who's Ox is getting gored situation.)

Call it judgmental all you want, but it is my opinion on the matter.. I dont think it as a matter of if it is never tested then it isnt real, If the Dr tells you you are elergic to peanuts do you need to go eat peanuts and go into anafalaxes to make it true or isnt it just as much the truth if you never test it?? Just my thought, honestly there is very little chance that anyone will make me think testing another persons word is anything more then a manipulative un trusting game...

ms

Then youu have told me all I need to know. Your mind is closed to any new information on the subject and I need waste no more time.
Other than to ask WHY bother with the post in the first place???

< Message edited by Archer -- 8/1/2007 9:13:10 PM >

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 9:14:21 PM

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ORIGINAL: Rover

Then I suspect that Sigmund Freud had the good sense not to ridicule others regarding their spelling. A little of that good sense would go a long way with Mr. Discipline, as it is evidently in short supply.

John

Maybe you should've ran spellcheck on what I wrote before trying to comment on my good sense, johnny boy.

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 9:25:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: MrDiscipline44

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ORIGINAL: Rover

Then I suspect that Sigmund Freud had the good sense not to ridicule others regarding their spelling. A little of that good sense would go a long way with Mr. Discipline, as it is evidently in short supply.

John

Maybe you should've ran spellcheck on what I wrote before trying to comment on my good sense, johnny boy.

I do not require spellcheck to know the proper usage of "too" vs. "to" vs. "two", or "there" vs. "they're" vs. "their", or any of a great many other words that may sound alike and are frequently confused for one another. I'm pleased to offer any additional instruction you may require.

John

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 10:31:54 PM

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I hate when that happens

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 10:37:09 PM

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I dont see the need for people to get ugly and nasty...

I didnt call names or get mean I dont see why others feel the need to, but whatever.

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 10:39:41 PM

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ORIGINAL: Rover

I do not require spellcheck to know the proper usage of "too" vs. "to" vs. "two", or "there" vs. "they're" vs. "their", or any of a great many other words that may sound alike and are frequently confused for one another. I'm pleased to offer any additional instruction you may require.

John

To Rover:
The real question is "Why do slaves have to suffer fools with grammatical fetishes?"...

Greetings Master D, begging forgiveness for entering the discourse - there is only so much she can take...well wishes ~ fairer

< Message edited by fairerthanshe -- 8/1/2007 10:44:15 PM >

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 10:45:47 PM

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To fairer:
I do believe that a grammatical fetish is much more useful (and fun) than a lot of the other fetishes I see on the Internet.
Stay well--and fair.
Arthur

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/1/2007 11:36:06 PM

MagiksSlave

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To fairer:
I do believe that a grammatical fetish is much more useful (and fun) than a lot of the other fetishes I see on the Internet.
Stay well--and fair.
Arthur

It may be more practical but I dont recall consenting to help him ingage in his kink, there for it is no more then nasty and rather unwelcome!!

ms

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/2/2007 1:20:01 AM

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

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ORIGINAL: rimbaud

To fairer:
I do believe that a grammatical fetish is much more useful (and fun) than a lot of the other fetishes I see on the Internet.
Stay well--and fair.
Arthur

It may be more practical but I dont recall consenting to help him ingage in his kink, there for it is no more then nasty and rather unwelcome!!

ms

I said it on another posting I'll say it again...children name calling isn't nice.

As far as suffering and submission and yadda yadda...I can't say I suffer. I can say if I were meant to I'd do ti without question. If a test is what She wants to run me through so be it. It's NOT my PLACE TO QUESTION HER. It's not manipulative...it's something to celebrate when we're done. It'll end in laughter on Her part whether I'm in tears a pool of blood passed out or pissin myself. Masochist or not there's only so much I can handle. And if She wants to push that point and make me suffer alright I'm game. I don't know about the rest of you but I signed on for real into this shit. I don't much care if I suffer or not. I'm just grateful to be here and to be serving Her.

And this aint no damned gift either. It's just the way it is damnit.

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/2/2007 3:41:10 AM

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I understand what your saying, for me tho I strive to get better at what I do, to suffer for sufferings sake for me is illogical...it's like saying "hitting my hand with a hammer hurts lets do it again" I understand some do like to suffer but don't think it's nessasary

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/2/2007 3:53:51 AM

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ORIGINAL: MagiksSlave

I dont see the need for people to get ugly and nasty...

I didnt call names or get mean I dont see why others feel the need to, but whatever.

Magik's slave

LOL

You don't see calling someone immature because they prefer to run their relationship in a certain way as mean and name calling?

I'm with Archer; your mind is closed so why did you bother to post the question at all? You are not interested in hearing other views different from your own. There were a lot of good posts in the thread that you mentioned that didn't evolve into a bunch of dramatic crap and people explained their positions rather well.

Instead of asking others to explain why they choose to do something in their relatioship with another consenting adult it might have been more honest to say "please validate for me that this is stupid". That is all that you appear interested in.

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RE: To be a slave you must suffer, who the hell made th... - 8/2/2007 6:39:36 AM

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Because thats what she does.

If was really interested in understanding it, she could have read the thread. Many people, including myself, have provided many posts explaining the theory and the concept. Apparently, she just read the first post and went straight to her keyboard to start an indiginant new thread without really applying any cognitive thought to the subject.

But, of course, if she had done that, she couldnt make a new thread, flaming the subject with misplaced righteousness and sharing her wonderful opinion of "I dont like it, its stupid, everyone is an idiot who does it".

Personally, I could have made a few posts here, explaining and clarifying the subject, but I am 99% sure, it will just be met with "Thats not my definition of suffering" and "Well, its stupid" type responses, so why waste my time?

Another compelling topic of discussion of "Its Not My Kink So Its Fucking Stupid".

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