SusanofO
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Wildfluers: Okay. Fine with me if that's what you believe. You may have a point. But, I think maybe you misunderstood my post (perhpas I wasn't very clear, either). So are you saying you don't think it would be a wise move to know if somone is a Sadist before getting involved with them? Also please define your concept of the term "Suffering". *Does "Suffering" mean simply being asked to do something you don't like - or does it mean having your "Limits" completey violated? (please don't tell me you "don't have any "Limits". Even if you have your Master's limits, because you're a slave - you still have some "Limits", I imagine.) Hey - I'm willing to "Suffer" for a Master, too - within my prescribed "Limits" - and that is regardless of whether or not I'd find an activity pleasurable or not. *A distinction I am making because, to my knowledge, we all still haven't defined the term "Suffering" collectively, in this thread. I thought I already stated I'd be willing to "suffer" for a Master - within prescribed "Limits". If we have a difference of opinion here (and I am not sure we really do) - this might be *because I am a submissive/Switch, and not a slave - A distinction I am also making - and that I consider possibly pretty pertinent to a discussion like this one - which you also have conveniently managed to overlook in your response to my post (maybe not on purpose - but I do think it's pretty germane as a distinction in this thread. I also failed to bring it out as a point, so for that I apologize). I also already stated in my above post, that I think a Master/Mistress testing/"pushing" (as opposed to completely crossing, and therefore, violating) someone's "Limits" was perhaps acceptable to many people - *but that it might not be considered acceptable by everyone. Frankly, I think it is one of the reasons people state they are submissives vs. being slaves (but that's a whole other discussion, probably.) Anyway - Please define for me the word "Suffering". I am not trying to be rude (I honestly am not), but -did you read my entire post? Because I do really believe these kinds of points (above, that I touched on in my previous post) might be points to consider, as far as thiswhole thread topic goes. - Susan
< Message edited by SusanofO -- 8/2/2007 6:34:51 PM >
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