Collarspace Discussion Forums


Home  Login  Search 

RE: So do Dommes hate men?


View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest
 
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> RE: So do Dommes hate men? Page: <<   < prev  2 3 4 5 [6]
Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 9/25/2007 1:41:25 PM   
amelliagrace


Posts: 1792
Joined: 8/4/2007
Status: offline 		Valid point.  Still, the vast majority of "feminists" aren't actually "man haters".  Perhaps its more accurate to say that some "man haters" also identify as "feminists".
 
-grace

(in reply to thetammyjo)
Profile   Post #: 101
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 9/25/2007 2:38:05 PM   
Najakcharmer


Posts: 2121
Joined: 5/3/2004
Status: offline 		There are a lot of people out there of both genders, some dominant and some submissive and some not kinky at all, who are full of anger and can't grow past their anger even when they are relating intimately to another human being.  In some cases their hatred and anger is tied to intimacy, and it poisons their relationships because they are based in hate and resentment rather than love or even mutual liking and respect. 

These people are not mentally or emotionally healthy.  I would not consider someone like this to be healthy or stable enough to be in a D/s relationship on either end, and frankly they should be getting professional help before they even do vanilla.  Unhealthy dysfunctional relationships based primarily on anger and resentment are, well, unhealthy and dysfunctional.  Adding BDSM to the mix doesn't make it any less so. 

(in reply to cyberdude611)
Profile   Post #: 102
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 9/25/2007 3:22:19 PM   
Carrianna


Posts: 273
Joined: 11/20/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

They were talking briefly on the radio today about dominatrices and basically said that they are all just radical feminists who hate men and are just looking for an easy way to make a buck.

It seems dommes are viewed in a very negative way by the vanilla world...even more negative than male doms.

What do you think is the basis of these stereotypes and is there any truth to them?
The people talking on the radio, where they men?  

I am dominant and female, I do this as a hobby!  Why because I like it and am good at it.

_____________________________

Selfishness must always be forgiven you know, because there is no hope of a cure. "Mansfield Park" J.Austen

(in reply to cyberdude611)
Profile   Post #: 103
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 9/25/2007 3:48:36 PM   
ranrich


Posts: 50
Joined: 12/30/2006
Status: offline 		I have known several pro-dommes fairly well, one for more than ten years. Have sessioned with her 20 or 30 times. None of the ladies I have known hated men, in my estimation. In fact, I believe they all liked men a great deal. Two of them that I know well I count as friends and they are fine people. I have a business relationship with the lady that I see now from time to time but we often go out socially together and thoroughly enjoy one another's company.

(in reply to thetammyjo)
Profile   Post #: 104
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 9/25/2007 5:09:05 PM   
Damocles809


Posts: 532
Joined: 7/12/2006
Status: offline 		Ugh. 

All generalizations are false. 

(in reply to earthycouple)
Profile   Post #: 105
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 9/26/2007 7:48:47 AM   
thetammyjo


Posts: 6322
Joined: 9/8/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: amelliagrace

Valid point. Still, the vast majority of "feminists" aren't actually "man haters". Perhaps its more accurate to say that some "man haters" also identify as "feminists".

-grace


I was more attempting to make fun of the radio folks by pointing out that they don't know any thing about the social movement called feminism.

So I wasn't making any point about feminists so much as pointing out the stupidity of the radio heads.

Oh, and for the record, no news flash for anyone who knows me or has read me for a while, I am a Radical Feminist -- has nothing to do with men really, more of an internal empowering thing born from consciousness raising in the late 1960s (not that I was alive then however).

< Message edited by thetammyjo -- 9/26/2007 7:50:03 AM >

_____________________________

Love, Peace, Hugs, Kisses, Whips & Chains,

TammyJo

Check out my website at http://www.thetammyjo.com Or www.tammyjoeckhart.com

And my LJ where I post fiction in progress if you "friend" me at http://thetammyjo.livejournal.com/

(in reply to amelliagrace)
Profile   Post #: 106
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 9/26/2007 8:22:00 AM   
AFlyInYourWeb


Posts: 284
Joined: 8/30/2007
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

They were talking briefly on the radio today about dominatrices and basically said that they are all just radical feminists who hate men and are just looking for an easy way to make a buck.

What do you think is the basis of these stereotypes and is there any truth to them?


Although I'm sure there are a few Dommes out there that hate men, in thirty-odd years I've never met one Domme who was like that.

I think society is threatened by any strong female in general.  In particular, the thought of a male submitting to a powerful woman really confuses them. 

The Domme/submale dynamic simultaneuosly violates two stereotypes of what society thinks the role of a male and female ought to be, in society's opinion.

(in reply to cyberdude611)
Profile   Post #: 107
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 10/14/2007 5:36:11 AM   
SuspendedInGaffa


Posts: 188
Joined: 8/17/2007
From: Wales, UK
Status: offline 		By the law of averages, obviously some Dommes hate men, just as some vanilla women do. But as a general rule it's of course bollocks on toast with a side order of shite. Lazy, ill-informed, BDSM-ophobic* pish.

Who on Earth where these people, and what made them think they were qualified to pontificate on the subject?

EDIT: Spam at twelve o'clock ^^^
___________
* I'm sure there must be an actual word for that, but I can't think of it. Any help?

< Message edited by SuspendedInGaffa -- 10/14/2007 5:39:09 AM >

_____________________________

I wormed my way into the heart of the crowd
I was shocked to find what was allowed

(in reply to troys)
Profile   Post #: 108
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 10/14/2007 6:53:33 AM   
Level


Posts: 25145
Joined: 3/3/2006
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: SuspendedInGaffa

EDIT: Spam at twelve o'clock ^^^
___________
* I'm sure there must be an actual word for that, but I can't think of it. Any help?


LOL......

_____________________________

Fake the heat and scratch the itch
Skinned up knees and salty lips
Let go it's harder holding on
One more trip and I'll be gone

~~ Stone Temple Pilots

(in reply to SuspendedInGaffa)
Profile   Post #: 109
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 10/14/2007 11:43:42 AM   
SuspendedInGaffa


Posts: 188
Joined: 8/17/2007
From: Wales, UK
Status: offline 		Of course, now the moderators have despammed the thread it looks like I was having a go at AFlyInYourWeb's rather good post. D'oh!

_____________________________

I wormed my way into the heart of the crowd
I was shocked to find what was allowed

(in reply to Level)
Profile   Post #: 110
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 10/14/2007 12:11:38 PM   
LadyLegs


Posts: 176
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: cyberdude611

They were talking briefly on the radio today about dominatrices and basically said that they are all just radical feminists who hate men and are just looking for an easy way to make a buck.

It seems dommes are viewed in a very negative way by the vanilla world...even more negative than male doms.

What do you think is the basis of these stereotypes and is there any truth to them?


Sounds like the type of people that hate gay men... they are scared of bending over with all these roving gangs of homosexuals & women with strapons that might attack.

(in reply to cyberdude611)
Profile   Post #: 111
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 10/14/2007 12:27:00 PM   
aidan


Posts: 904
Joined: 5/28/2005
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyLegs

Sounds like the type of people that hate gay men... they are scared of bending over with all these roving gangs of homosexuals & women with strapons that might attack.


Ummm...And where do they usually roam around?

So I can, you know...avoid them.

>_>


_____________________________

Do what now?

"I aim to misbehave."
-Mal Reynolds

(in reply to LadyLegs)
Profile   Post #: 112
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 10/14/2007 1:08:09 PM   
Aneirin


Posts: 6121
Joined: 3/18/2006
From: Tamaris
Status: offline 		I love women, but I will Dom a woman who desires Domming as I would do for a woman what she would like. Similarly,I would expect a Domme to like men. If they are men haters,I will have nought to do with them. Just me,my thoughts on the matter.

_____________________________

Everything we are is the result of what we have thought, the mind is everything, what we think, we become - Guatama Buddha

Conservatism is distrust of people tempered by fear - William Gladstone

(in reply to cyberdude611)
Profile   Post #: 113
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 10/14/2007 2:01:21 PM   
bipolarber


Posts: 2792
Joined: 9/25/2004
Status: offline 		Pro Dommes just want to "make an easy buck?" Obviously, this is some definition of "easy" I was not previously aware of. I wonder if these radio pundits discussing this topic have any real expereince with BDSM, pro or otherwise. Supposing you are a pro Domme, you have to deal with skitzy clients, cops trying to nail you for prostitution, secrecy from the neighbors, lack of health care (in most cases) high overhead for fetish clothing and gear, upkeep for your playspace, etc., etc.. A far easier, safer, steadier income could be achieved by being a phone sex operator. Dommes do this because they like doing it. The money is nice... (when it comes through) but the real attraction to it, I think, is the independance it offers, and the thrill of being an object of adoration to a cadre of others. Sometimes, the personal touch is as important to happiness as making the rent is.

(in reply to SusanofO)
Profile   Post #: 114
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 10/14/2007 3:54:05 PM   
kitttty


Posts: 494
Joined: 10/10/2007
Status: offline 		1) Most radical feminists are against BDSM. If you consider yourself a feminist and are a practitioner or fan of BDSM, chances are that you are not of the radical variety.

2) What else exactly does this imply? That submissive women adore men? Cuz I have to admit, I'm not the biggest fan of the male gender. The reason I dislike men in general is precisely because of the attitude of these radio personalities, which I think is pretty representative of your average man. If a woman is a lesbian, she hates men. If she is a Domme, she hates men. If she is a self identified feminist, she hates men. Basically any woman that believes in her own freedom and humanity is a threat to them.

(in reply to bipolarber)
Profile   Post #: 115
RE: So do Dommes hate men? - 10/14/2007 4:04:48 PM   
LadyIce


Posts: 406
Joined: 7/4/2006
Status: offline 		I am wondering if most Dom's hate women?
Just thinking about things from the other side of the male/female equation.

(in reply to kitttty)
Profile   Post #: 116
Page:   <<   < prev  2 3 4 5 [6]
All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> RE: So do Dommes hate men? Page: <<   < prev  2 3 4 5 [6]
Jump to:





New Messages No New Messages
Hot Topic w/ New Messages Hot Topic w/o New Messages
Locked w/ New Messages Locked w/o New Messages
 Post New Thread
 Reply to Message
 Post New Poll
 Submit Vote
 Delete My Own Post
 Delete My Own Thread
 Rate Posts




Collarchat.com © 2025
Terms of Service Privacy Policy Spam Policy

0.078