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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 11:41:40 AM   
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My goodness !!!

Why are everyone suddenly bashing everyone and the OP ?? I thought posts and this community is exactly for sharing.. whether is world-issues or personal!

That being said.

Dear D.. I think you shouldn't care for what others say you should do. As far as waiting (mourning period) and as I understand, this was not your question or what you wanted opinions on.

Traveling the distance - that was. I traveled 1000miles to meet my current Dom. It was a risk, yes.. and it was my first Real Life experience as far as BDSM goes... but I weighted everything and trusted my gut... and never ever regretted my decision. It came out to be the most positive and great thing that happened. We are together now and are working on being even closer. So live your life, explore and travel , but just be careful.

All best to you.

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 11:47:21 AM   
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Domiguy, Robert was by no means disposable. I didn't ever once say I was replacing him. I remain hurt and I love him very much. He will hold a place in my life for as long as I live and knows he's always welcome here.  If I held your opinions in higher regard that really would have hurt.  Since I've been around long enough to have seen your posts pppffft to you. 

I agree LA, with the rebound issue (that concerns me too).  What Robert and I had (have) is much much different than anything I've ever experienced before and leaving a relationship that wasn't filled with anger is very new for me.  I don't forsee my going 8 hours to be a life altering experience beyond just breaking free from here.  Everything in this house reminds me of what was (I can't even do my laundry without thinking of Robert) and I need a "cleansing." 

Will I go over the edge and jump into a sinking boat?  I hope not.  Do I have the propensity for jumping? Yes.  I don't know if my heart will allow me to jump to high this time because there, as I said is a wound vs. anger and hatred toward someone.  I've never been here before, so we'll see what I do!  I promise not to bitch and moan if I screw up *S* I do know I will never regret the speed at which I loved and lost with Robert.  I can't.  It was too good while it was there.  Thanks for the concern, LA (and others who said the same thing)

edited to add I saw others remark as LA did and I thank you for your concerns.


I applaud you for taking this big step and trying to move forward. Whether or not some may think you're moving too fast isn't the important issue. It's how you feel inside that says when you are ready to try once again. For some, it takes months and months and for others a short time span. Each person we love and lose still holds a spot in our hearts, yet we still try to move forward.
I lost count of the number of times I travelled a large distance on the hopes of maybe starting over again with another person. Quite often it wasn't the most right choice I made yet I was reminded that my capacity to put myself out there once again showed me I still was human and had a heart. My last example was me leaving Canada and travelling 800 miles into the States for someone. Because I believed at that time it was the right thing for me to do. That was not a mistake, it was a lesson where I learnt more of myself and enriched my life's experience.
Wish you well on this adventure you're taking and hope all goes well for you in this! 

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 11:54:05 AM   
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*S* Wow...I created a ruckus.  I don't have any reason to defend myself from those who have a differing view.  Elorin obviously pissed me off because I would never do something to harm Robert.  So I said what I had to on that. 

Since it is not my business to share with the world I won't go into why things are what they are today.  I do wish Robert chose to participate in the forums again because I know he'd have something to say here and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't be "poor me, see how she hurts me."   But of course you don't have to believe without seeing.

I find some humor in the idea that so many people think that I'm a big bitch or player or whatever opinion you've created when in fact I know how I feel and felt and will continue to feel over something that is and was very real to me.

For those of you who have spent time speaking up for me, I thank you.  It is very kind and moreover, gave me some tears because I know you have probably felt, in some way or form what I feel.  I also appreciate support from those I hold in "forum high regard" (I make no mistakes about "good friends" etc. on these boards.  Those who I consider friend, you know who you are *S*). 

I also appreciate everyone who is concerned for Robert.  I know he is very well liked here over all, as it should be.  He's pretty damn amazing.  I know he would be touched to see so many of you "defending" him.  I also know he'd be upset so many are critizing me...but again, proof in the pudding right?  You can't dare believe me since I'm not Robert. It is probably harder even still since he hasn't logged on in so very long and his profile remains unchanged.

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 11:56:45 AM   
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I think this is the problem when people air their personal business online. 
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I, quite frankly call it balls, to share Her experiences so others can see that there are real people here and not just a collection of jack leg men and beothces.


This is a great comment!  I think I've read it somewhere before.  Oh, yeah.  I've said it a couple of times Myself!
 
Really, folks.  Isn't the real life stuff what some of us love about this place?  I don't mean the drama stuff, or the bickering over it, but how people are living D/s or M/s in their own lives?  Talking about the intellectual aspects of the lifestyle is all well and good, but when people implement them in their lives (however they choose to do so), doesn't it benefit others when it is shared?  Not everyone has the guts to put themselves out there like that, and some of us appreciate it when they do.  There's even some of us that get more perspective from the whole picture.  The good, the bad, and the ugly.  It's a life, not a fairy tale.
 
 

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 12:02:43 PM   
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I'm trying to figure out why your feel the need to defend earthycouple so loudly if you feel she's done nothing inappropriate. 


Because I can.
 

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 12:02:55 PM   
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Getting away sounds like a wonderful way to have a bit of alone time to reflect and think. Sometimes we all just need to get in our cars and drive, it helps give one a sense of freedom from responsibilities and sorrow. And rather have it be an aimless trip, you have made it one with a purpose. I wish you well on your journey both physically and emotionally...Tempting

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 12:08:33 PM   
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I'd love to hear your opinions about driving such a distance, why you might do it; why you might not do it and if you have ever felt the need just to begin anew.




Depends how long you are going for as you have to take into consideration that such a long drive probably takes a day to recover from. Also ask yourself would you be in the best mood to meet someone upon arrival and is this how you’d like to remember a first meeting if you get there tired. I would maybe go by coach or plane; someway you can rest along the way.

Anyway it sounds like you are at an exciting turning point in your life and I hope it works out well for you. As far as the background to this goes, which I am not that familiar with, I can only say that I’ve had a relationship end under similar circumstances but in reverse. It was obviously hard to go through but I’d rather have gone through it than not and at least I know the other person is now happy which helps. It feels kind of liberating in a way also. We go through life and meet people and they add something to us as individuals. They may not continue the journey with us but we are at the point we are because they got us here.


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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 12:10:43 PM   
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You asked for opinions, and they were shared.
I'm not holier than thou, I'm simply sharing an opinion. Making plans to meet someone new, changing all your "rules" about who you meet while you are at it, and posting it on the boards seems petty, especially when you put so much about your recently ended relationship into the post.

The post could have been made much more simply without referencing your old relationship and it would have ignored.

It's ok for people to question you about rebounds but not to be concerned with your expartner?

I'll make a note of it, and won't bother you in the future with my opinions on any of your posts.

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 12:28:12 PM   
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How many of you who are complaining about how 'fast' this is are taking into account that the proposed trip is still several weeks away?  It appears that it will be at least 6-8 weeks between the ending of the relationship with Robert and this meeting.  Is that really all that fast in today's culture?  I don't see it that way.  NChaka collared me one month to the day after a "Dom" I had been seeing RL poofed on me after seeing him 1-2 times a week for 3 months.  We're still together almost 2 years later.

Donna, though I don't know you outside your posts to this forum, it seems to me that you are handling things better than most people do.  Take your trip to Minneapolis, enjoy yourself, and I wish you the best of luck as you continue on your journey.

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 1:13:20 PM   
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Well since I was the "lucky" first one to make a statement about possible rushing, I'll go ahead and make an elaborative post based on the discussion that followed.

Re:  Robert.  That's not something I worry much about.  I've seen nothing to suggest that Earthy didn't/doesn't take him into account and the reality is that he is a big boy adult who can handle himself just fine.  It does squick MY sense of "post breakup" communications to start publicly talking about seriously having someone else in mind so soon after a public break up- but I haven't seen anything to suggest pettiness, revenge, or even outright carelessness.

Re:  Time.  There's nothing necessarily wrong with going fast.  There's nothing necessarily wrong with going fast into one relationship after the break up of another.  However, I thought with Robert that things went too fast and too heavy to build a solid foundation before making those next steps, and I'm getting the exact same impressions on this relationship.  The best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.

Now, if I had placed money on all the relationship predictions I've made on collarme over the years, I'd have won a lot more money than I lost.  But I still would have lost some.  People do surprise me and I always hold fast that people know their business more than me, and that even if they don't, it's still THEIR choice to make and I fully support them in making it.

I'll also point out there's a very different relationship dynamic between dating someone regularly, seeing someone regularly, living with someone regularly- and a long distance relationship in which the only time you see eachother is "vacation fun time."  Trying to compare the different types is rather tricky business.

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 1:28:27 PM   
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I agree wholeheartedly with you Ghita, and I am sure if Robert felt it was necessary to relate his side then I am sure he might. Both Donna and Robert are adults and if they feel it is necessary to tell all then it is their choice. What happened between them is their business and I respect the fact. Robert has his own reasons why he hasn't told his side and that I do respect him even more.

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 4:22:02 PM   
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As far as making a trip to see someone, I don't see why not.  It's fun to do something off the cuff.

As far as diving into a new romance ... it looks WAY too soon.  What's the rush, Donna?  Let yourself breathe.  You've just gotten out of a very intense relationship that was, in part, played out on the boards, and you already have someone who wants to lay himself at your feet.  Something seems a little off in expressing your undying love for someone one week, and saying that you are looking at someone else a few weeks later. 

I think we all enjoy the buzz of BDSM for different reasons, but it looks like one of your hot buttons is the jolt of intensity, the instant intimacy that this kind of interaction can create.  I'm going out on a limb here, but were you attatched to Robert or to the buzz?  For your own sake, for Robert's and for the new person, why not wait things out a little?

Respectfully, kindly, curiously,
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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 5:02:06 PM   
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It certainly is interesting reading.
Can't wait for the next chapter.

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 5:13:55 PM   
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why do i get the sense this is like indiana jones in search of the lost Dom or sub or domme or switch or slave or or or oh forget it lol

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 5:37:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GhitaAmati

And yanno...some of us really do live pittifully dull and lonely lives and our only adult conversation in the day is this silly forum. I talk with a one year old, a two year old, and a seven year old all day other than the time I get to pop onto here when they are eating lunch or taking a nap. Sometimes we need to hear ourselves talk (or type) out our feelings to another adult who we hope "might" possibly understand what we are going through.


HEAR, HEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!

*sighs*  or taking a break from looking online for a new place to live, or from packing, or from a dozen other things....

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 5:46:55 PM   
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Not asking for advice.  I'm curious as to who's done or thought about doing something similar. 


Once upon a time, I was engaged and owned. I was dumped flat on my ass. There was nothing graceful about it. I sobbed, made a fool of myself and spent the night at a friend's place.

The next day I went to see Valyraen. That night he was in my bed. Come November we will have been together for two years. Do what feels right for you but be honest with yourself and this new person that you might be rebounding. You also might not be. In my opinion, love and happiness is always worth a shot.

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 6:09:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AquaticSub

quote:

ORIGINAL: earthycouple


Not asking for advice.  I'm curious as to who's done or thought about doing something similar. 


Once upon a time, I was engaged and owned. I was dumped flat on my ass. There was nothing graceful about it. I sobbed, made a fool of myself and spent the night at a friend's place.

The next day I went to see Valyraen. That night he was in my bed. Come November we will have been together for two years. Do what feels right for you but be honest with yourself and this new person that you might be rebounding. You also might not be. In my opinion, love and happiness is always worth a shot.


I like what she said. I think as long as you're honest with the other person about where you're at do what feels right to you.

Bu anyway i know you weren't asking for that kind of advice. From what i've seen of your posts here you are a down to earth, passionate and caring person who does indeed look out for the well being of others. It sounds like you're looking out for your well-being right now too and i personally think a trip like this could be a very good idea. I don't know that i would travel that far but i sometimes wish i would, because there can be something very freeing about just ....going. I think it sounds like a perfectly reasonable distance for you particularily since you will also have the ren faire to see if it turns out the person you are meeting does not show or is a let down. You sound like you're planned it out pretty well and i'm glad to see you are continuing with life and hope for more good to come.


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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 6:13:02 PM   
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Keeping with the original question, yes I have traveled a great distance to meet someone. I have traveled across the country and my former Master  lived in Florida. The first meeting was filled with nerves and anxiety. I wondered about the same things you did. I had a safe call in place in case he was a psycho. I had a back up plan for everything just in case it didn't work out.

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 6:20:43 PM   
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As far as making a trip to see someone, I don't see why not.  It's fun to do something off the cuff.

As far as diving into a new romance ... it looks WAY too soon.  What's the rush, Donna?  Let yourself breathe.  You've just gotten out of a very intense relationship that was, in part, played out on the boards, and you already have someone who wants to lay himself at your feet.  Something seems a little off in expressing your undying love for someone one week, and saying that you are looking at someone else a few weeks later. 

I think we all enjoy the buzz of BDSM for different reasons, but it looks like one of your hot buttons is the jolt of intensity, the instant intimacy that this kind of interaction can create.  I'm going out on a limb here, but were you attatched to Robert or to the buzz?    For your own sake, for Robert's and for the new person, why not wait things out a little?

Respectfully, kindly, curiously,
MSS 


MySweet..while I quote you here, this entire post is not directed at you. I do address some of what you say, but overall this is simply meant to say what I have felt reading through everything people have posted to me today.

I wish it had been the buzz...because then I wouldn't hurt so much.  I spent most of the morning crying.  Not because of the *S* "meanies" (who cares) but because I spent the morning missing little things like the silly comments Robert made during television shows, the way he held still like no one else when I bit him, the way he smells...omg...the way he smells (I could go on for paragraphs).  I walk into what was his room and just cry sometimes.  No one knows what I've gone through day to day and to presume anything beyond what I've stated isn't fair, but again...I know when I post here, it is only my fault for getting blasted; I own that and if I don't like it I can, well, not post.

Because I do things differently than someone else doesn't make me wrong and I certainally never expected a debate like this today, but well it is what it is.

I've had three great loves in my life.  My husband, a dominant/dear friend to this day and Robert.  The others that I've enjoyed as play partners or as friends or as whatever....no buzzing there.  They are what they are...my friends.  I don't "fall" for everyone I meet, I don't dive headlong into everyone I meet.  When I do meet someone I feel is special or that I have a connect with that I think could go deeper I don't get wishy washy about it. 

I have been very up front with the person I've been chatting with and he knows how I feel about Robert, he knows he could be a rebound and he knows that this may go no where with us.  He's said that he feels that people come into our lives for reason and if his reason is a diversion then that's that. He's happy to be of service *S*. Of course my goal is not to use or abuse anyone...never has been. 

I don't quite understand why we presume that because someone is meeting a person that means a brand new life love is going to result.  I have met 4 people who have come to me via a distance and the only one I "fell for" was Robert.  Who's to say this guy will fall for me?  Who says I'll fall for him?  Not a thing.

I suppose I'd be more concerned were I on the outside looking in if I said something like "wow I found this perfect guy and I'm going to drive up to his hometown and bring him back down here to live with me forever.  I've never been so happy with a slave and he's this and he's that."  I didn't and am not doing that.  I know what this is...it's meeting someone that I've found a commonalities with and enjoy on a basic level of getting to know you. 

I wonder would this be a big deal if I were chatting with new people at a local munch or dungeon?  Would it be wrong to build up a relationship based on common interests and moving forward as he and I felt comfy if he were the boy next door?  Would it be wrong to meet for coffee with someone local tomorrow?  There are no promises made to this person and he's well aware of that.  As a matter of fact we discussed this (again)in depth this very day because of this thread.  I do and have all along had a concern about him in this. 

I've also had several email conversations with someone I highly respect from these forums and asked her to be a voice of reason for me before I even created this thread; to get feedback on my rationality right now.

I probably do more reflection into myself than most and I have appreciation for questions posed to me when not being attacked (which most of you did not and thank you for that).  I actually think about them.  I consider what you have said.  I don't discount anything that has the potential to be accurate...which is why I chose the post MSS wrote to reply...she has valid points as does LA and various others.

The trip is not until Labor Day weekend..what is that another month? I'm not all knowing.  I'm not perfect.  I'm not sure what is going to happen next.  I do know that if nothing else, I've been as honest as I can with myself and the other person involved. 

For those of you who feel this is a fun read or that there is a large amount of drama or that I'm seeking (insert here).  That's ok because there are often times I read and reply to threads for the same reasons.  Chances are you people are the ones who missed some of my threads and posts along the way, haven't bothered to get to know me (as well as one can here) or who just like to make fun of something and today was my day.

Specifically to Elorin.  I apologize to you for the very directed post and calling you holier than thou.  More often than not I agree with your posts and respect your opinions.  It struck me very wrong when it was suggested I was being petty or that maybe I was trying to "dig" at Robert. I'd never do that and of all the things I read here today, that truly bugged me.  Maybe it bugged me because for a second I thought he may see this and think what you thought.  I of course know better...he knows me and he knows our situation better than anyone.  He will be nothing but happy for me in anything I do, as I will for him. I will always love him no matter who comes into my life...whether that person comes tomorrow or next year. 

Wow...ok, it was just pointed out to me that my OP may come off as "whew he's gone and now I can move on"  so to speak.  I didn't intend a message like that at all.  I reread this DV's eyes and I can see that possibility now.  For the record, that was not at all the intent.  My intent was to share a position I am taking (breaking out of what I typically do) and see if others break way from themselves too.  Taking this trip has nothing to do with Robert or the relationship he and I had.  It has to do with me growing as a person and doing new things.  If there had never been a Robert and I had still met this person in Minnesota, I think I'd still be making the trip.  I'm breaking my own paradigms and I think that's kinda cool.  This was never meant to be at anyone's expense or loss. Hum.  Thanks DV for helping me get what others may be thinking.

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RE: Breaking Free - 8/5/2007 6:24:14 PM   
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How far I would travel would depend on how much of an investment (emotional/intellectual not monetary) I have in the person.  For someone I'd been communicating with for months and has become convinced was real and honest I would probably travel out of the country for.

I see nothing wrong with jumping in quickly.  Life's short.  You don't get back the time you spend recovering.

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