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RE: Sub = Obedient sheep to all???? - 10/17/2005 7:57:16 AM

OsideGirl

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You also say, "I don't feel it should be necessary to be submissive to all Dom's." When you say be submissive, what does that mean to you?
To me, it means nothing more than a general submissive nature shown in your behavior, your personality.

Hello There,
This question was presented to the group after a Dom I'd just met at a social grabbed me by my chin and started barking orders at me the next time I saw him. I do agree that I should behave in a submissively respectful way as it is in my nature to behave that way most of the time.
I have leadership adaptabilities and can be in Management or teaching positions and a good leader, but at the same time I want those around me to have their needs met & be happy too.

Sincerely,
sub suzanne

I dislocated a thumb belonging to a rather well known Dominant at the LA social. I had some scratch marks from a knife on my upper chest and he just walked up to me rubbed his hand across the scratches and said, "Well, what have we here?"

I was single at the time, so I guess he just thought it was okay to just walk up and touch an unowned sub. Keep in mind that this is a Dom that gives lectures and writes a column.

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RE: Sub = Obedient sheep to all???? - 10/17/2005 8:13:11 AM

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Not to defend the guy at all (as I hope you can tell by my previous posts) but height has nothing to do with the ability to defend oneself. I am 5' 8" and had an ex-girlfriend (waaaay back when I used those terms) who was 5' 2" (weighed a lot less than me) and took Aikido. I had taken Karate (Shotokan) for 1.5 yrs at this point and she had taken Aikido. I had taken a tour of europe and she invited me over - it was by far the most pleasant experience we had had since seperating and as one of the exchanges we had that night, we sparred. Neither of us was out to hurt the other but I was - Impressed - at the effectiveness of Aikido. Especially considering she had only been taking it for 2 months.

Hello Wolfie648,
I am corrected by you and agree stature alone is not a fair judge of who'd win in a situation like mine. To consider someone’s physical attributes as a weakness was incorrect on my part. I appreciate you pointing out what should have been obvious to me. In my defense this worm of a man also saw the pure rage and protective nature of my Master and that very well may have been why he dared to not attempt to do anything but comply with my Master's request.
Once you pointed out height and girth have no defining point in someone’s ability to be forceful and strong it brought me back to the David and Goliath story in the bible. Who won there? The smaller more crafty fella.

Thanks for making me see the errs of my ways.
Sincerely,

sub suzanne

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RE: Sub = Obedient sheep to all???? - 11/3/2005 1:55:23 AM

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Respect is earned lil 1...not automatically granted. Not all who claim 2 B Dom/Domme Dserve immediate respect, nor R u Xpected 2 bend 2 their wishes. But each person who earns the title of Master/Mistress Dserves your humbleness & politeness. My slaves R taught that they R a living, breathing, Xtension of Myself...that they R @ My command & no other's unless that permission is granted them, or Xpressed ahead of time. Politness is Xpected of them regardless of the person they meet, but yet My property is not loaned, given, or assigned w/o My consent & approval. A wise Master will advise His slave of such things long prior 2 any chance meeting Their sub/slave may encounter, & how He Xpects them 2 Bhave, respond & submit when appropriate. A well-trained sub/slave will do all that her Master asks....& in the same token, also NOT do as unplanned & unintended by Him. your 1st. obligation & duty is 2 serve your Master...2nd. come His wishes that u serve others who have gained His respect or admiration.

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RE: Sub = Obedient sheep to all???? - 11/3/2005 4:55:36 AM

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This just happens to be one of my pet peeves. I may be a dominant male but I am also a gentleman. I believe that you treat a woman with respect in any situation, especially if they are your submissive. Those that want to flex their Domly muscles and prove to everyone that they are dominant by treating potential sub's like shit will be alone for quite a while. Just from reading these forums, I have seen countless posts about Dom's writing an opening email demanding submission from someone that they don't even know. If you cannot bother to introduce yourself and nurture a friendship first before attempting a Dom/sub relationship then you miss the point about a relationship at all. I have said this once, I will say it again, have some dominants forgotten about romance? I guess I am from an old school of thought, but I thought the point of searching for a mate involved romance and love.

Gauge

i fully agree with Gauge. i just wanted to add my two cents. Any Man who speaks down to you; who demands ANY show of submission whilst you are virtual strangers; who behaves as if subbies and slaves are a lower form of life; is IMO, not a Dom. As others have said, through education etc. such a Man may become a Dom (though i rather doubt it) but He may also be an abuser, testing you to see whether He can cull you from the fold easily.

In any event, rudeness IMO should be met with silence and distance unless it persists, and then it should be handled by those in charge. Rarely is it necessary for a woman to fight with a man over mistreatment when the two do not know one another.

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