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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsability - 8/28/2007 5:34:41 PM   
Bobkgin


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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

I do not block a soul.  It is a waste of time.  Even if a person seemingly has 'nothing' to say, I learn from that 'nothing'.  Those that block, do so at their own loss.  Those that choose not to, move onwards and grow.
As the disclaimer goes - is how I believe.
 
And obviously the consequence is of no consequence.  Whether you feel Merc is trying to drive you out, is no excuse for attacking an innocent party.  That is what a bully does.
 
As I said - you have some good things to contribute as I have read - but then my thoughts may be irrelevant to another. But to become what one bemoans, taints all that is written - whether people who are interested read it or not.
 
Never become to old and too jaded to care.
 
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Perhaps you'd like to explain to me how I was "attacking" Beth.
 
Suggesting her partner was so obsessed with an individual that she'd have doubts about his interest in her?

I believe that is called "humour", as in "satire".

Were this an honest mistake, I'd certainly apologize.

But it would seem clear to me that it was a poke at merc's obsession over me. Hardly to be taken as a sincere effort to portray Beth accurately.

A rather distinct difference from merc's attempt to claim that neither my wife nor my son existed, let alone died, and that I've invented them so as to find those who would be sympathetic.

Statements which I don't recall you or Bita challenging on the grounds with which you've challenged me.

In fact, I don't believe either of you challenged them at all.

<shrug>

So shall I view that as tacit approval of merc's efforts to deny the existence of my family?

And this is merely an effort to blow out of all proportions a bit of satire drawing attention to just how much merc is obsessing over me?

Because neither of you have spelled out the nature of the "attack" on Beth as you see it.

And neither of you said anything when merc et al repeatedly tried to deny the existence of my wife and son (which is a really stupid effort given I have photos of both them and me which could be shared with anyone curious enough to ask for proof of their existence, should anyone be silly enough to believe such attacks).


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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsability - 8/28/2007 6:41:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		I don't see this as a Dom or gender responsibility issue...I see it as a human responsibility issue. I don't understand the mentality of any human being who would stand idly by and not come to the aid or defense of another human being in jeopardy. I also don't understand why anyone, regardless of gender or orientation, would expect that others have the sole responsibility for their safety. It is the responsibility of each of us to learn how to best keep ourselves safe or defend ourselves.

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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsability - 8/28/2007 6:53:15 PM   
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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsability - 8/28/2007 7:46:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: GhitaAmati

Is he saying Im not typical? I know Im not typical..part of what I love about me...but I truly dont think that I have to be typical to be a sub......being typical would be boring.


I have to wonder what "typical" would be. Honest question. Is there a stereotypical view of what a "typical" submissive is. Must one be meek and particpate only in womanly activities?

I know a LOT of submissives and I can't think of any common denominators....other than submission...that they all possess. I don't think that I could define a "typical" submissive. Some of them are very prissy and wouldn't be caught dead doing anything that might get them a blister or get their hands dirty. Some are hard working business women. Some have physical labor jobs. Some like to knit, sew and make cookies. Some like to ride motorcycles and get greasy. Some couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag....and some are a force to be reckoned with. And then there are some (myself included) who are a bit of a blend of it all. Typical? I'm not sure what that is.



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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsability - 8/29/2007 3:27:13 AM   
RCdc


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Status: offline 		Bob - I am not here to defend either Merc nor beth.  Nor did I see the other post you are refering to because I don't live on the boards and do not read every post here.
 
I simply comment on what I see at the time.
 
And whether Merc did say anything to you or not on another thread does not justify you doing it back.
Tit for tat behaviour is hardly becoming in anyone.
 
Not that you are concerned - as you have said - what others think.
 
What you seem to believe is that merc is obsessing on you.  But you have been here on the forum for a small amount of time in comparrison to others and what you fail to recognise is that people have certain personalities that you may have taken as a personal slur.  However, you simply aren't that important in the grand scheme of things - neither am I.  No one is(well, save for Darcy, but then, I am biased)
No one is going to drive anyone else away - that's just a thought placed in ones head from the super-ego.  Don't take things so personally - because then you are allowing someone to have power over you.
 
You don't have to prove the exisitance of anyone or anything.
 
However, the problem comes from the insistance on making repeated posts about bullies and then being the very thing you abhore - satire or not.  Keeping with the OP (PersonalPOV) - Responsibility is setting a positive example and not contradicting that which one teaches - or preaches.
 
That is pure DS -  a Double Standard that has ones integrity and sincerity questioned by those who do choose to listen to what you may have to say.
 
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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsability - 8/29/2007 3:50:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: mistoferin


Some like to ride motorcycles and get greasy.


ME ME ! Awwwww....i love you to, you remembered to put me in your post.
 
Funny, i guess that might not make me a subby in a lot of eyes, i've actually been told it was not proper for me to love those things.
 
Yet Scooter was all proud and thumping his chest when the guy whose bike i fixed at the Boogie this year rode up to thank me for fixing something he could not.

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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsability - 8/29/2007 4:51:59 AM   
Bobkgin


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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

However, the problem comes from the insistance on making repeated posts about bullies and then being the very thing you abhore - satire or not.  Keeping with the OP (PersonalPOV) - Responsibility is setting a positive example and not contradicting that which one teaches - or preaches.
 
That is pure DS -  a Double Standard that has ones integrity and sincerity questioned by those who do choose to listen to what you may have to say.


 
You have made this claim, without elaboration, three times now.
 
You've been asked to justify the accusation.
 
You've chosen not to.
 
<shrug>
 
Moving on now.
 

< Message edited by Bobkgin -- 8/29/2007 4:54:33 AM >

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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsability - 8/29/2007 4:56:40 AM   
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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsability - 8/29/2007 5:56:14 AM   
RCdc


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Status: offline 		This is Darcy.

Apropos of nothing save the point about stepping up, regardless of whether .dark. and I were in a BDSM relationship or not she is the most important thing in my world, and if someone has a problem with her either verbally or physically then they also have me to contend with. I hope I never have to find out, but should someone ever physically attack or harm her then the nine circle's of Dante's Inferno would be akin to a Sunday School picnic in terms of the vengeance that I would visit upon them.

Violence is always the response of absolute last resort for me, and thankfully I have only had to resort to it once in my adult life, and then only after severe provocation, but I will not allow anyone who harms those who are dear to me to go unpunished. She is my world, my love, my property, my friend, my muse and my reason for existing. Woe betide he (or she) who crosses that line........

Darcy

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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsibility - 8/29/2007 6:19:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: KiandPhoenix

Edited to add that she also protects me from giant bugs, as they are not my forte, and I am afraid of one or two kinds of the big ones. As she so nicely pointed out.


Nice to know I'm not the only adult with this fear.  In the summer, I don't like to go out after dark b/c of those giant bugs that fly around (some call them palmetto bugs...I just call them God's curse on Mankind!).  I am completely petrified of them! 
 
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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsability - 8/29/2007 7:00:50 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin


4.5 years later, I  stood by her as she was eaten alive by cancer.

The day after, I was raising my son as a widowed father.

Some of us take our responsibilities very seriously, whether bdsm is involved or not.

It's about love, not about kink.

Or so it seems to me.




WOW ... that is powerful stuff!!!  Brought a tear to my eye.


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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsability - 8/29/2007 7:16:41 AM   
RCdc


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Status: offline 		You asked no questions.
 
If you do directly - then I will answer.  If you are asking indirectly to 'justify'  - I do not have to justify that which is plain.  I feel no 'need' to justify anything that is said.  You simply are deciding not to see.  Who you are picking on - it was beth.
Even if done so in jest to get back at her man.
Poor show and no mark of a man.
 
You have posted about people trying to drive you away by their posts.
Same could be said for yours to others.
That is the DS.
 
No justification.  Just plain and there for anyone to see.  Which is a pity, as I do believe you have many other positive points to say which is lost in your pettiness to try and win a 'position' that really isn't there except in your own eyes.
 
Be constructive, not destructive else the words are lost.  Age does not mean we cannot learn - even from those who might oppose.
 
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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsability - 8/29/2007 7:26:45 AM   
Bobkgin


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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

No justification.  Just plain and there for anyone to see.
 

 
As is everything I write.
 
I've found it a useful way to segregate kindred spirits from those who are not.
 
Always have, always will.
 
You would be in the "Not" category.
 
As you've contributed nothing to my knowledge or awareness ...
 
... welcome to my block bag. I believe you know everyone there.

< Message edited by Bobkgin -- 8/29/2007 7:28:47 AM >

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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsability - 8/29/2007 7:27:15 AM   
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I would think several days of whining about me being here would justify a humourous reminder that he has something else to do than try to harass me off the board.

And I fail to see how making light of merc's obsession somehow insults Beth.

It certainly isn't my "little testosterone war". merc could have moved on a long time ago. I certainly did.

As for what you decide to do and feel ...<shrug>

That's really up to you, isn't it?

I've already said I don't pander for popularity. 'nuff said on that.

Moving on. 
On edit: Just noticed the statement I highlighted.

Fact is, Bita, merc has already brought my wife into this by denying her existence and claiming this is a ploy to lure in the sympathetic.

Perhaps you missed that in the "decline of collarme" thread.

I just consider the source and move on.

Bob's a GREAT source of material and amusement and I hope he never leaves! Whining that he's here? Come now - how would I learn the one true way? I also hope to find out about who all the other "us" and "we"s are he keeps referring. I also need to know how many "nuff said"s it takes to be enough. I also want to set a record for CM as the profile most blocked and unblocked by a another profile. I also enjoy the image of him peeking through his figers to read my posts. So I like pandering to immaturity - its a personal weekness.

However - setting the record straight - this is the spouse reference:

Someone said quote:

But the guy met his wife on a personals site, lived the lifestyle for many years, and is now a widower. He's a grandfather. He's getting back on this horse and trying to ride it again.

I responded:
And you believe his story without reservation? Have you also given your banking information to spouses of wrongly imprisoned or killed Nigerian ministers and expect to soon be receiving 20% of the $50 Million in your account? There is no difference.

But hell, anyone who blocks any dissenting or contrary position will make a GREAT dom.  Only a fraud runs away from debate and challenge. Only an insecure coward hides behind the block button. I don't recall 'Insecure', 'Coward' and 'Fraud' ever being listed as ideal dom traits.

The only other reference I made was this: When someone gives their personal loss history it points to wondering if they have nothing else to offer, so they go for the 'sympathy submissive'. I wonder if I announced, when I began my search in 2002, that I had survived 9/11 by making a golf date instead of showing up at my office at 8:30 on the 97th floor as planned on that day I would have generated more activity by going the "poor, poor me" route. Do submissives really buy into that "woe is me" story and find it attractive?
 
I stand behind both statements.

Integrity isn't something to be turned on and off. Bob illustrated all the bad aspects of on-line. Insecurity, a cowardly stance regarding challenge, a false authority; my doubt regarding his history is based upon him. He's given enough reason to doubt. His integrity and insecurity is documented.

We appreciate those coming to our defense. Trust me, beth's amused, and actually believes one of the recent requests she's gotten for permission to lick he boots came from Bob. - Who knows? You can believe whatever you want if it fits your fantasy and makes you happy. But this is the internet. There are no facts here unless their verified. Who can know if beth really exists? If she does and she died, I wouldn't be so insecure as to reference her so people will hesitate to disagree with me or throw me a mercy submissive. I think it would taint their name and my memory to use her for that purpose. Obviously Bob feels differently - he's entitled. However, when you get emotional or upset about words printed here from people, and have to hide behind a block - it speaks to some deeper problems and issues.  
"The coward only threatens when he is safe." Johann Wolfgang von Goethe


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RE: Also part of the game: Dom responsability - 8/29/2007 7:31:05 AM   
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Ironic for the OP.
Ironic for your signiture.
 
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