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mnottertail -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:31:45 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: KatyLied Any time someone mentions that they have problems at every board they post on, it makes me think they are pointing their finger in the wrong direction and should look in the mirror for the solution to their difficulty in communication. Well, all well and fine for you, Die Behind the Wheel, But; I rather like to think of myself as part of the problem, rather than part of the solution. Ron

FullCircle -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:32:36 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bobkgin Actually, I believe selfish people deserve one another just as I believe selfless people deserve one another. There is no logic to that as selfless people don’t judge selfish people, apparently. quote: ORIGINAL: Bobkgin I feel sorry for the selfless sub/slave who is caught up with the selfish dom/master. There is no balance in the dynamic. Ying yang: seems like perfect balance to me that. Do you want to start crying about the people getting spanked in a minute? Indifference isn’t the opposite of love. This is reverse psychology used by a lot of fringe groups to defend themselves against attacks from outsiders. I have a scab on the back of my neck I can’t stop picking it but I don’t have any real fondness for it. Indifference is when you have never been affected by what a person says or does because you have never thought about it. I don’t hate you or anyone else here, I would have to know someone to form that opinion and people only show you what they want to. I think you go about this in the wrong way; you seem to answer your own questions and reject opinions offered by others. Asking a question and then giving an opinion later is the general rule to follow, this way the end will not be predetermined at the outset. This is a discussion forum not an opinion forum. You posted a thread the other day related to the meaning of words. This had little to do with the meaning of words but was in fact an attempt to point out the many fakes that exist in this world and how you are supposedly the real alternative. We are not idiots so treat us with respect by approaching a topic in an honest open way.

KatyLied -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:33:24 AM)
quote: Die Behind the Wheel, Ahh, they got a name for the winners in the world....and I want a name when I lose....

mnottertail -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:36:58 AM)
What is it which we covet, Clarisse? Your friend, Your buddy, Your pal, Your colleague, Your business partner, H.L. Mencken or is it that instead of which, while we are sub-referencing? don't nobody get on my spelling today, bad cts here.

came4U -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:37:26 AM)
quote: Asking a question and then giving an opinion later is the general rule to follow, this way the end will not be predetermined at the outset. I have said similar several times. He knows and predicts and cannot wait to toss in a lil personal info that can look seemingly sad for some poor submissive. He doesn't want answers, he wants to lead and convey the entire thread his way, and no other way. I tire of Bob. It is so 1st year psych predictable, it is dull.

velvetears -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:42:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: came4U Isn't the whole idea of being a Dominant that they should be and are the more dominant of presentable, stable and stronger (emotionally and/or physically) of such D/s dynamic? and Yes, I find it dangerous using a pitiful tearful tactics as guise for a possible wolf in lamb's clothing. It is similar to the creepy guy who uses a limp to get a gal to help him carry groceries and then pushes it into the back of his van. THAT is MY OPINION. I find it creepy. If you disagree, do so, but you would never change my mind on the topic. I prefer a man who has his shit-together and just one who pretends to. i did disagree and explained why. i posed a few questions to you, so i could better understand what your fear was, you did not choose to answer them. That's your right, you're not beholden to, just don''t expect me to understand where you are coming from, unless you want me to assme, which i don't generally prefer to do. i would venture to say some subs like the uber confident never emotionally vulnerable dominants and some subs like those who are more emotionally vulnerable and transparent - either one is not in indicator of dominance, imo. i am not trying to change your mind, so don't get your featheres all ruffled. You yourself used to word "possible" (bolded above) so i am glad you at least leave room for the possibility that you are wrong in your assumptions about him, based on the fact you find him emotionally weak. i would be interested in learning how you ascertain how a dom "has his shit togehter" - perhaps that would shed light on a few things said?

Bobkgin -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:43:15 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: came4U Isn't the whole idea of being a Dominant that they should be and are the more dominant of presentable, stable and stronger (emotionally and/or physically) of such D/s dynamic? I'm dealing with the deaths of my wife and son, and knowingly making myself vulnerable to you and your friends every time I share a part of myself in a public forum. Care to tell me how I manage that without exercising all the noblest qualities one might seek in a master? quote: and Yes, I find it dangerous using a pitiful tearful tactics as guise for a possible wolf in lamb's clothing. It is similar to the creepy guy who uses a limp to get a gal to help him carry groceries and then pushes it into the back of his van. Ignoring the paranoia, and only briefly pointing out how a human was transformed into an object during the writing process that led to the above quote, I should like to ask why on earth would I be ashamed to talk about the fact I had a family, whom I loved dearly, and who have passed on? I believe the truth is a lot closer to you and your friends wishing I'd stop mentioning my family so you can continue your verbal assault without looking like you're beating up on a crippled guy. I personally do not view myself as crippled, but I can understand that compassionate people would certainly view your assaults with more harshness given the circumstances at hand. And I can understand why that might cause you to vent against my pride in my family and what we shared together till the end. quote: THAT is MY OPINION. I find it creepy. If you disagree, do so, but you would never change my mind on the topic. I prefer a man who has his shit-together and just one who pretends to. And thus you admit I give the appearance of having my "shit-together", you just refuse to believe it and feel a need to cast aspersions on my love for the family I had. <shrug> Some people need the drama, I suppose.

Mercnbeth -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:45:55 AM)
quote: And i am sure you are getting the entertainment you so value from this thread, enjoy. Who can say what defines "enough". However - I personally hope he never meets Ms. Right, or Ms Left for that matter. [sm=bust.gif]*SOME-body is peeking again!!!* [sm=bust.gif] Such a cute picture - red white beard along with two beady eyes peeking through spread fingers fearing the written word of descent. quote: 'nuff said By my count my 7th, "'nuff said". Since its a competition does that put me in first place? Bob's INTEGRITY - 'nuff said. PS - If it wasn't a holiday weekend I'm sure LA would have pointed out, since we've had battles on this issue, that I agree with the premise that we should all strive for perfection. By definition if you aren't striving to be perfect you are doomed to achieve your goal of obtaining mediocrity. Simultaneously I know the achievement of perfection is impossible - No one, not even Tiger Woods can ever hope to score a perfect 18 on a golf course. So there you go Bob - I agree with the concept of striving to be perfect and/or seeking a perfect mate and a perfect relationship. Knowing full well that I am striving toward an unobtainable goal however by the process believing I gave my best effort and will obtain a result as best I can get. If you weren't such a damn insecure and immature fraud of an individual perhaps we could have been able to discuss it. Edited to add: ...Back to my Bloody Mary drink and my naked redhead slave by the pool.

Stephann -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:52:59 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail I cry at parts of The Elephant Man, I have doubts, I have times in which I am not confident, time in which I brood................... Emotions are not always weak, it is the giving into them, and wallowing in abject fear, paralysis and dolorum that is the weakness, the fact that they might spring from a single emotion is noteworthy but not tautology. MasterWeaklingBooHooHoo Honest and truly, this is the finest thought to come from this thread, I think. Thank you Ron, Stephan

mnottertail -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:53:14 AM)
I uh..........well, Merc has made too much sense so many times that I am going to cakk myself, I can't deal with it anymore, and I just wanted to REPEATEDLY tell my 500,000 closest friends here (maybe twenty, if you ignore the multiple profiles and Nigerians and 18 (+ or -) year old guys posing as war hardened ProDommes asking for tribute) And I will do it over and over and over and over again, and will be pretty sure that you will take some pity on me and give me a puppy fuck, 'cause you will get it sooner or later, just like a woman bitching again and again and again, because they think that if you would only understand------ Well, who wouldn't cakk themselves after that? What method should I use? I ask you, my closest closet friends at collarme? Ron the Doomed

came4U -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:54:09 AM)
too late to acknowledge me now BibbidyBob. My opinion of you is clear enough in black and white. No one of value to me in words (in reality or on the net) disregards postings out of their own personal paranoia just to respond at the last minute. Your response now is moot to me. I choose to ignore it.

MadRabbit -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:55:11 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth Bob's not an annoyance - he is dangerous. He's a fraud. He represents a problem with no solution - internet information which can be used by some naive reader as fact. He knows himself to be a fraud or else he wouldn't be so uncomfortable and would address challenge with debate - not blocking. If you know...Bob would take a minute to stop portraying himself as the new New Age Collarme.com Messiah of BDSM... above disagreement... above challenge... above clarification... above providing any kind of creditable source... above actually debating as opposed to just saying "Nuh, nuh, your just wrong" speaking about things that are merely his opinion in an absolute and universal sense... spreading misinformation about the "good old days" and a textbook of BDSM that doesnt exist.... roaring to the high heavens about how he does not have to limit himself to not pompously ponitificating like the rest of us, because his infinite years of experience have provided him the Truth threw divine revelation that all of us in our flawed little society need to conform to... blocking anyone that provides anykind of negative opposition in the form of disagreement, correction or just flat out calling him out on his bullshit... then I would gladly leave him alone to talk about his own personal viewpoints, definitions, lifestyle, and philosophy. Unfortanely, he's like that annoying guy at the party that no one likes, wont leave, or stop making an ass out of himself.

Aileen68 -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:55:16 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Mercnbeth Edited to add: ...Back to my Bloody Mary drink and my naked redhead slave by the pool. Party at Merc and beth's!!!! I'll bring the tequila and baby oil.

mnottertail -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:57:54 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Stephann quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail I cry at parts of The Elephant Man, I have doubts, I have times in which I am not confident, time in which I brood................... Emotions are not always weak, it is the giving into them, and wallowing in abject fear, paralysis and dolorum that is the weakness, the fact that they might spring from a single emotion is noteworthy but not tautology. MasterWeaklingBooHooHoo Honest and truly, this is the finest thought to come from this thread, I think. Thank you Ron, Stephan Well, I am not so centered in myself that I wouldn't sniff a pair of panties now and again, so--- I am not at the top of the hill as far as enlightenment goes. FYI, Ron

celticlord2112 -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:59:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Bobkgin I'm dealing with the deaths of my wife and son, and knowingly making myself vulnerable to you and your friends every time I share a part of myself in a public forum. Bob, you are NOT dealing with your loss. You are waving that loss around as if to curry sympathy and pity from others. This is not part of a healthy grieving process. Make peace with your grief. Mourn your loss. Bury your dead. Do not drag them into every discussion thread in which you participate; they deserve better than that (and, quite frankly, so do you).

KatyLied -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 10:59:25 AM)
quote: What method should I use? I ask you, my closest closet friends at collarme? I dunno. I'm still trying to figure out why I covet a lot more than what I see every day. I think Lector was wrong about some stuff.[:D]

mnottertail -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 11:01:38 AM)
Ja, don't let it eat your brain, Ray. Agt. Starling

came4U -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 11:13:39 AM)
What makes the paranoid one think that 'it' means the female/gal and not the guy stealing the groceries? creepy indeed. and grieve on your own clock. Come back when you are emotionally healthy enough to have a conversation without bringing up those who did not, or will not give you permission to discuss them in a public forum. Pretend to have your shit together implies I think you do have your shit together??? You are that arrogant to believe I think you do have your shit together? gods almightee, do you ever think before you type? now, I have stuff to do (with the living) and happy conversations to be had about people who are still walking and talking. Try it sometime. Long weekends need not be a burden to folks. now, I return you to block until THIS TIME, I am good and ready to choose to reply to you. How you like them apples BOB? again, grow up!

Bobkgin -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 11:16:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: FullCircle quote: ORIGINAL: Bobkgin Actually, I believe selfish people deserve one another just as I believe selfless people deserve one another. There is no logic to that as selfless people don’t judge selfish people, apparently. I don't believe that. Those who are or wish to be selfless slaves must choose to give themselves to a master (or mistress). Until they choose, they are free humans, and should be treated as such. From those I've known, their greatest challenge is finding someone who knows what to do with them. They no more want to be disrespected and unloved than anyone else. And yet too often that was what they found waiting for them. Apparently there are not many men who will love and respect a slave, or so I've been led to believe by those I've known who aspired for that life. quote: quote: ORIGINAL: Bobkgin I feel sorry for the selfless sub/slave who is caught up with the selfish dom/master. There is no balance in the dynamic. Ying yang: seems like perfect balance to me that. Do you want to start crying about the people getting spanked in a minute? I disagree here too. The transfer of energy between a selfish master and a selfless slave is all one way. It will eventually drain her. The transfer of energy between a selfless master and a selfless slave is self-sustaining. This is Yin Yang. The harmony of opposites. Selflessness produces the harmony, just as selfishness produces competition and distrust. The opposites here are the master and the slave. In harmony through mutual selflessness.

FullCircle -> RE: "Love Reign O'er Me" (9/1/2007 11:20:29 AM)
No one is totally selfless. When I see a so called selfless person I’m just waiting for the mask to fall as everyone else is. A selfless master: one that pretends that punishment is educational and gets nothing out of doing it? I’d prefer honest to selfless in this respect.

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