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What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 7:48:32 PM   
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By law in any state in the US it's illegal to practice medicine without a license. Castration of any kind, chemical physical, violent, or peacful, is considered a medical act.

So why on earth are there people really calling themselves "slaves" and "submissives" who are asking Dominants on the internet to risk their legal well being in asking them to do such an act?

I mean wouldn't it sufice to say that if you're an s-type that even when it comes to fantasies and desires, you would not REALLY ask a D-type to committ an illegal act just so that you can live out a fantasy? Aren't s-types suppsoed to be considering the well being of a D-type before the fulfillment of their fantasies? Hell in a vanilla relationship (I hate doing this comparison) one could not actually expect their partner to committ an illegal act just to fulfill a fantasy could they? Not in a healthy one I wouldn't expect.

I mean am I off base or what?!
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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 7:51:29 PM   
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Pretty much, it is only a misdemeanor to clamp idiots in the nuts with a vice-grip far as I know, but I am not a government official.

So there is still a little room to swish your ass around.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 7:52:29 PM   
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Clamping and cutting them completely off are two different stories.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 7:53:48 PM   
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For some reason, I feel something amiss. What exactly brought on this topic? Was there another newstory of this or something?

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 7:54:22 PM   
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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 7:57:03 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

By law in any state in the US it's illegal to practice medicine without a license. Castration of any kind, chemical physical, violent, or peacful, is considered a medical act.

So why on earth are there people really calling themselves "slaves" and "submissives" who are asking Dominants on the internet to risk their legal well being in asking them to do such an act?

I mean wouldn't it sufice to say that if you're an s-type that even when it comes to fantasies and desires, you would not REALLY ask a D-type to committ an illegal act just so that you can live out a fantasy? Aren't s-types suppsoed to be considering the well being of a D-type before the fulfillment of their fantasies? Hell in a vanilla relationship (I hate doing this comparison) one could not actually expect their partner to committ an illegal act just to fulfill a fantasy could they? Not in a healthy one I wouldn't expect.

I mean am I off base or what?!



um...I take it you got the same email from the same brain-trust that I did last week. or was it the week before?......LOL

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 8:07:38 PM   
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No I was doing my job/chore/whatever that's been assigned and checking Her collarme account. I received a chat invite and accepted and explained who I am and what I'm doing and this guy asks for this. It's not the first time MsK has reeived such requests. And All I can think is aren't THEY supposed to be in charge and how "submissive or slave" like is it to put a D-type at risk for arrest?

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 8:11:08 PM   
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Simple, simple, little cute boi....These requests are made by serious Doms like myself.....We are made of balls and guts....If we lose a pair or two....No big deal...Like knocking a freckle or two off a red head's ass.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 8:43:41 PM   
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Just say no to insanity.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 8:46:13 PM   
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STOP THE INSANITY!!!

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 9:03:45 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen
I mean wouldn't it sufice to say that if you're an s-type that even when it comes to fantasies and desires, you would not REALLY ask a D-type to committ an illegal act just so that you can live out a fantasy?


Anti-sodomy laws were still Constitutional until a couple of years ago
Laws against sex toys are still on the books in several states
The right to consent to being beaten is far from being codified
Can i legally cut off my own nuts?
If so, why can i not have it done by the person of my choosing?
If not, whose nuts are they, anyway, and why aren't they taking more responsibility for emptying them on a regular basis?

Things to ponder...

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 9:27:59 PM   
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I point the fellows who inquire about this activity to the most recent media frenzy involving consensual SM gone very wrong:

http://www.courttv.com/trials/castration/041106_ctv.html
http://www.bdsmwatch.com/archives/kink_gone_wrong/master_ricks_plea_deal.php
and the classic Dan Savage opinion on said castration issue in the news:
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=31695

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 9:30:56 PM   
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Dick Shooter, eh?  I wouldn't have guessed it still works.

quote:

ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 9:50:46 PM   
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From above website link provided by the Wonderful MisPandora

Quote: " Sciara’s defence lawyer admitted that ‘consent’ was not a defence to the crime, hence the guilty pleas".

The issue I wish to bring up along that thought. Sciara fails to prove (or attempt to prove for that matter) the consenting  adult involved is within sanity to make such a judgement call concerning the consented action in question. Consider a moment, someone asks you to cut off a body part? Sane or insane?  Seriously, that needs to be evaluated beforehand definitely. Personally I am not qualified to make such a judgement call but dadgum!! Some common sense should come into play that to perform certain acts might find yourself in some legal troubles?  DUHH!!

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 10:39:09 PM   
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i think that happen to someone just recently in the news they did a bad job on the castration and the guy bleed to death. sad

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 10:48:27 PM   
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The thing about idiots is that they are idiots regardless of orientation, interest, kink, etc. Hopefully the sub idiot doesn't find an equally idiot Domme to actually cut them off. If they find each other, perhaps they both deserve that fate.

Regards, ATP

(btw boijen, I have to say you have a much higher class of rant than most)

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 10:52:14 PM   
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and we can't consent to our own assult and battery so when ever we ask a dominant to do any sort of impact play, aren't we infact, asking them to do something illegal?

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 11:13:52 PM   
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Most of those guys only like the fantasy, and get off on talking about it with someone. 

I'm sure you hear plenty of dom/mes complain about subs that want to try every single kink out there, but never show up for a real life meeting?  Sounds like these guys. 

I'd bet my left nut that the vast majority of these castration fantasy guys just want a lady to acknowledge the fantasy, by just talking about doing it for real. 

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 11:46:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: BoiJen

No I was doing my job/chore/whatever that's been assigned and checking Her collarme account. I received a chat invite and accepted and explained who I am and what I'm doing and this guy asks for this. It's not the first time MsK has reeived such requests. And All I can think is aren't THEY supposed to be in charge and how "submissive or slave" like is it to put a D-type at risk for arrest?


Sounds like the guy from germany that emailed me the other night and wanted to chat.  Doesn't phase me any more....had one from another state that insisted I come and kidnap and blackmail him...he was totally serious...wanted me to drive to his state and kidnap him from his yard, complete with no word to friends and family.  I'm telling him I really did not want to be apart of a police hunt....he just glossed over all that...he actually got angry. 

In the end he tried to convience me by saying "if" the police showed that he would tell them what is going on.  Now I'm supposed to kidnap a complete stranger, and trust him to vouch for me with police???  oh please....  not to mention, as I told him, there would probably still be some kind of charges for not coming forward.

I just don't know about people sometimes...LOL

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 11:46:56 PM   
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For most men who write asking for this, it is nothing but fantasy! If it came down to it, 99% of them would not attend even a first meeting with the woman if she took them seriously. Talking about it gets them off. There was a guy in yahoo chat rooms (back when they had the user created rooms) that trolled for a castration Domme for months. Then his fantasy changed and he started trolling for a Domme who would tie him up and let insects lay eggs in his penis, which would then hatch and eat their way out. That <sarcasm>delightful </sarcasm> fantasy was followed by one where the women would cut off his penis and eat it.   I once asked him why he wanted to do such damage to himself. After a while he fessed up that he really didn't want it, he just liked to talk about it. After that, I started asking guys who claimed they wanted to be castrated about it. Not one ended up actually wanting it done in real life. So take messages asking for castration with a grain of salt. While it's still using a woman, it's not to involve her in an illegal act, but merely to waste her time and masturbate to what she says.

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