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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/1/2007 11:56:26 PM

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had one from another state that insisted I come and kidnap and blackmail him...he was totally serious...wanted me to drive to his state and kidnap him from his yard, complete with no word to friends and family. I'm telling him I really did not want to be apart of a police hunt....he just glossed over all that...he actually got angry.

In the end he tried to convience me by saying "if" the police showed that he would tell them what is going on.

You'd do well to steer totally clear of this type of person. You may have missed this in the news several months back...

March 6, 2007 -- A renowned hedge-fund honcho hatched a heinous revenge plot against his former mistress by posing as her on the Internet - saying she wanted to be kidnapped and raped as part of a sicko sex fantasy, officials said yesterday.

http://www.nypost.com/seven/03062007/news/regionalnews/perv_set_up_ex_to_be_raped_regionalnews_jana_winter__roddy_boyd__kate_sheehy.htm
has the full article. For all you know, the person you were talking to was trying to use you to perform an actual non-consensual kidnapping of someone he dislikes.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 12:12:58 AM

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lol...oh yeah, I think I remember him...lol Wasn't that in the DW room?

Hey Beach, how's it going?....lol

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 12:15:27 AM

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It's possible. It happened when we were in the old yahoo rooms. He wasn't a regular, but I'd seen him around, he even had a pic....didn't mean the pic was of him though..lol

that was the first and last time I talked to that idiot...lol

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 12:32:52 AM

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Yuppers, it was the DW room. Wasn't he a trip?? He went by hastingsweenie last I heard, but the profile is no longer there. Too bad. I know you were just dying to go have a look... not. LOL

It's good to see you too! It's been a while. I've just opened a yahoo group that I plan to have revolve around Dominant women, male subs, long term relationships or marriage and the problems, challenges and joys of maintaining BDSM long term. We'd love to have you there if it interests you. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mys_Beach/

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 12:56:59 AM

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I would be curious to see an FBI raid on a lunghnasad ritual...fyi its one of the harvest rituals by neopagans (maybe with ancient roots, we like to pretend so, and since nobody could prove nuthin we can believe in it if we want) where the Corn-King (the harvest in the manifestation of a man) has his tonker cut off in "classic" (which means nobody really does it) paganism...of course since most young men acting in the Corn-King's stead would object to this idea it is done symbollicaly**.

The news stories above are a titilating smoke screen to help get out of the vote for more traditionally minded candadites..."save a dick vote republican" ads (in the guise of news) is a pretty old tactic that found its modern birth under reagan. it's real hard to compete when the fight is "save healthcare" vrs. "18 year old boys found in castration coven".

** though there is a story that floats aroudn every year of three old crones who wanted to punish a group of bad pagan priests, they took 1 of the number behind the viel within the lughnadsad ritual, next thing the gathered hear is the guy screaming adn one of the crones comes out slaps down a pair of balls and a prick on the altar and says "bring the next one"....of course it was all staged with goat balls & prick, but apparently the impact on the woeful acts of the bad priests stopped that night. amazing what three old women can do with a little time and a trip to the butcher's shop.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 1:25:18 AM

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By law in any state in the US it's illegal to practice medicine without a license. Castration of any kind, chemical physical, violent, or peacful, is considered a medical act.

So why on earth are there people really calling themselves "slaves" and "submissives" who are asking Dominants on the internet to risk their legal well being in asking them to do such an act?

I mean wouldn't it sufice to say that if you're an s-type that even when it comes to fantasies and desires, you would not REALLY ask a D-type to committ an illegal act just so that you can live out a fantasy? Aren't s-types suppsoed to be considering the well being of a D-type before the fulfillment of their fantasies? Hell in a vanilla relationship (I hate doing this comparison) one could not actually expect their partner to committ an illegal act just to fulfill a fantasy could they? Not in a healthy one I wouldn't expect.

I mean am I off base or what?!

Sounds to me like a few idiots with a loose screw or two....

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 6:02:39 AM

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 6:06:25 AM

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and we can't consent to our own assult and battery so when ever we ask a dominant to do any sort of impact play, aren't we infact, asking them to do something illegal?

Assault and battery are classified as non-consentual crimes. When someone consents to them they are no longer a crime. That's my interpretation of the law...not everyone's.

And even in consent of this act (castration) it's still considered a medical procedure. Therefoe doing it with or without consent is practicing medicine without a lincense and therefore completely illegal.

And goddamnit I hate when I do that!

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 6:18:28 AM

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Clamping and cutting them completely off are two different stories.

Depends on whether you remove the clamp before they fall off...

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 6:23:11 AM

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As usual Aswad-san lazered in on it. One can always get a de-nutting pliers and sheep rings and snap a band around their nuts and give them control of their destiny after that.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 6:54:23 AM

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Assault and battery are classified as non-consentual crimes. When someone consents to them they are no longer a crime. That's my interpretation of the law...not everyone's.

There is only one interpretation of the law that matters: that of the judicial branch.
And, really, "hiring out", for instance, is technically pimping, and illegal.
Of course, the law will probably only care if it's a stranger, but...
Some people want to do castration play, some don't.
There are women into nullification, as well.

Both genders rarely go beyond fantasies when it comes to such things, AFAIK. But I don't see why it would be a problem for someone to ask, if they're sincere about it. We usually take for granted that people negotiate things, so why would we want them not to negotiate once they are into edgeplay and body modification? Seems paradoxical to me.

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And even in consent of this act (castration) it's still considered a medical procedure. Therefoe doing it with or without consent is practicing medicine without a lincense and therefore completely illegal.

Who cares? It's an international forum. Laws vary. Each person is accountable to the law on an individual level, along with being accountable to the forum when they post things that might get the forum in trouble. If people act consentually, it doesn't matter much to me whether the law where they live deprives them of their freedom to do so.

Laws that restrict human interactions are an all too common phenomenon, and I don't see anyone here criticizing the horrible idiot women who failed to comply with the laws of the oppressive Taliban regime, or those idiotic Texas women who have the audacity to own more than half a dozen sex toys in defiance of the law...

Don't want to do it? Fine, tell them so. I don't get why this is a big deal.

The main issue with it is that it's a high-risk activity if done without the proper medical equipment (i.e. in a hospital setting) and training (i.e. a surgical team), which bears a bit of debate. Then again, people engage in breath play, literal consensual slavery, and so forth, where we generally highlight the risk, rather than decry them as idiots.

Calling them idiots is just bigotry.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 7:09:19 AM

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As usual Aswad-san lazered in on it. One can always get a de-nutting pliers and sheep rings and snap a band around their nuts and give them control of their destiny after that.

You honor me beyond the merits of what I said, Ron-shi.

If it may be suggested, there is far more to it than that, although a legal option for doing it would be to provide a candidate with the means to cause a medical condition that warrants removal, and then take said candidate to the hospital with a good explanation for what happened afterwards, if perhaps not an entirely accurate one. For instance, "I was just playing around, and didn't realize it was that serious" is humbly submitted for consideration in that regard. Another legal option is to have the procedure done at one of the sex reassignment clinics in Asia, known for being rather lax about their requirements.

One might want to take care to avoid being sectioned under a diagnosis of gender dysphoria.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 7:19:01 AM

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And even in consent of this act (castration) it's still considered a medical procedure. Therefoe doing it with or without consent is practicing medicine without a lincense and therefore completely illegal.

Does that not then make any form of medical play illegal?
Just pondering

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 7:56:04 AM

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the bottom line of things are the law is the law it is not up for negotiation.. wither fantasy or reality if you do something illegal.. it is bound to catch up with sooner or later.. So it would be wise to be careful what you say or post the FBI does have a list of people who who visit porns sites BDSM sites and other things. my point to this is.. We need to keep things very low key.. being an election year you do not want to give political people a cause to stir things up so we have nothing no more sites no more clubs nothing catch my drift. people like this only add to the disolve ment of our lifestyle.. the more public attention it gets the more we are looking at trouble coming our way.. But stupid is as Stupid does. Just think no more places to buy toys.. so more the people like this do stupid things. The more we are going to suffer because of it

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 9:43:03 AM

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Hilarious.

That, and more than a little paranoid.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 9:49:22 AM

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you didn't know the government is watching us? thats why we still use the code UM....
edited to add: cause not only is the government watching us, they are also really stupid...

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 9:53:35 AM

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 10:24:50 AM

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Assault and battery are classified as non-consentual crimes. When someone consents to them they are no longer a crime. That's my interpretation of the law...not everyone's.

what i have been told is that you can not consent to assault and battery...they are not non-consensual crimes...they are crimes period...due to battered and abused women saying, no no no, i asked for it...for their own safety, they are allowed to press charges on their behalf, without any statement from the woman or actually more often child(or man, but it rarely happens) mostly after a doctor sees bruises or improperly healed broken bones...lovely what a doctor can do "for our own protection"...which is why i advocate finding a kink aware professional and being somewhat open about your lifestyle....

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 10:58:44 AM

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Assault and battery are classified as non-consentual crimes. When someone consents to them they are no longer a crime. That's my interpretation of the law...not everyone's.

what i have been told is that you can not consent to assault and battery...they are not non-consensual crimes...they are crimes period...due to battered and abused women saying, no no no, i asked for it...for their own safety, they are allowed to press charges on their behalf, without any statement from the woman or actually more often child(or man, but it rarely happens) mostly after a doctor sees bruises or improperly healed broken bones...lovely what a doctor can do "for our own protection"...which is why i advocate finding a kink aware professional and being somewhat open about your lifestyle....

Not only is the State of Maine allowed to press charges on "alledged"
abusers they infact do.For the reason of protecting the women who are too afraid
to leave or they cant leave(no money).I'm all for stricter laws against abuse
even if sometimes they investigate people who are innocent,its better safe than sorry.

As for the OP...I actually got an email from some guy in a far away land
who wanted Me to castrate him.I had another who asked to be
dismembered,not sure what he meant by that...really didnt/dont want to know.
I just chalk it upto there being some freaky ass people out there.

Perhaps the pics of the medical tray and instruments I have makes Me open for those questions.Then again there are differences in Medical Play,between making pretend and actually doing.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 11:00:20 AM

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Basically, we skirt the laws on a daily basis, anywhere from sex by the bay windows to consensual murder. Some of these will be up your alley, some not. But to call it idiocy because it is not your kink is the same as calling flogging lunacy because only crazies like pain.

If you see it as black and white, then drive 50 in a 50 zone, pay exact taxes, and report pennies you find to the police, in case someone comes a'looking. But to break the law to some degree, but then decry someone else doing so as an idiot is kinda hypocritical, no?

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