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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 6:26:53 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aswad

I have a pretty good idea, LatexBaby. I'm neither blind, nor stupid. It used to be a major field of interest for me, and I know people who have done work with the relevant agencies, although my main interest has been their activities abroad. It's not a pretty picture, but you've strayed pretty far into paranoia-land.

Could you perhaps offer some plausible rationale for revealing valuable information about the operation of a multi-billion-dollar surveillance infrastructure to the general public in order to shut down BDSM? An election year doesn't cut it. That's all about being seen as doing something, not about actually doing anything. And one can make a lot of show without even touching the infrastructure. Besides which it would detract from the useful work.

if someone did give up info about said projects they would be shot so i doubt it if those projects dealt with certain security risk. anyone who has worked in those areas of gov knows this before they sign up. for example the guy that sold stuff to the Soviet union and other thingys sorry just the way it is

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 6:36:49 PM

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i once had a 'master' email and inform me how interested he was in me and that i must have no limits, up to and including snuff. i reported him..

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 6:44:53 PM

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are you opposed to all forms of tobacco?

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 7:00:01 PM

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Only the kind that kills.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 7:08:07 PM

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ORIGINAL: chellekitty

and we can't consent to our own assult and battery so when ever we ask a dominant to do any sort of impact play, aren't we infact, asking them to do something illegal?

Not quite. The basic premise of assault is that the contact is offensive and undesirable. Since requested impact play is desirable by definition, the contact is difficult to define as assaultive in nature.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 8:09:31 PM

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You can visit http://wiki.bmezine.com/index.php/Elastrator to see what an elastrator does to the human body when used on testicles. Warning.. the images are for those with a strong stomach ONLY.

BMEzine is a rather useful reference/source with regard to these things. One could conceivably use the Elastror to irreparably damage the scrotum, and then take it to a hospital for qualified removal. For instance, pretending one did not know it would do damage from that length of exposure, or whatever.

I've yet to see a "good" way to perform a penectomy, though.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 8:14:51 PM

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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

if someone did give up info about said projects they would be shot so i doubt it if those projects dealt with certain security risk. anyone who has worked in those areas of gov knows this before they sign up. for example the guy that sold stuff to the Soviet union and other thingys sorry just the way it is

I never said they revealed compartmentalized information.
But the balance between what is said and what is not tells a story all of its own.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 8:35:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64
if someone did give up info about said projects they would be shot so i doubt it if those projects dealt with certain security risk. anyone who has worked in those areas of gov knows this before they sign up. for example the guy that sold stuff to the Soviet union and other thingys sorry just the way it is

So if anyone who talks about these secret conspiracies is killed, how do you (or anyone else) know about them? Are you saying the government will kill people who talk, but won't go through with killing others who know things?

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 9:11:08 PM

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

I have a rat up my ass (not literally) about intolerance and judgement of others kinks at the moment
I'll get over it lol. Ive sat on not responding to this thread for a couple of days now to make sure i really did mean what i said and that i wasnt off the cuff ranting - and i wasn't

My intolerance here isn't the kink. It's the fact that some s-types are willing to risk the legal well being of a D-type for their fucking fantasies. Let your kink be your kink. I don't care. Your body is your body damnit and if you wanna OD til you need a stomach pump be my guest as long as you pay the damned bill so that my insurance doesn't go up. Just don't go around asking other people to put themselves at risk for your fantasy and then go call your self a s-type.

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RE: What is it with these intolerant posters? - 9/2/2007 9:31:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

My intolerance here isn't the kink. It's the fact that some s-types are willing to risk the legal well being of a D-type for their fucking fantasies.

I think your intolerance here is rather misdirected. Your "D-type" is the one responsible for choosing to enable this fantasy, so why are you directing all of your ire towards the "s-type"? Since when are "D-types" not responsible for their own actions? Did those naughty "s-types" force the "D-type" into fulfilling their fantasies?

"How dominant"

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 10:16:28 PM

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ORIGINAL: celticlord2112

Not quite. The basic premise of assault is that the contact is offensive and undesirable. Since requested impact play is desirable by definition, the contact is difficult to define as assaultive in nature.

only if the contact is not violent...since impact play is indeed violent...it negates the required undesired requirement...

look....my point is...i could give half a rats shit if someone wants to get beat on all day long or if someone wants to get their balls chopped off...just be sure about it and don't be whining about it or pressing charges once its done...heck, maybe even enjoy it...and if someone wants to whack off thinking about it...they aren't idiots...they just have a different kink that the person that called them an idiot....

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 10:30:35 PM

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ORIGINAL: BruisedHick

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But this is why the mantra in the community is "safe and consensual." Emphasis here on the safe. If you're playing with a licensed surgeon, and really, freely, knowingly want to get this done, hey, they're your balls. Outside the pale, it really is idiocy, hypocrisy or not. Sometimes things aren't black and white, but we can distinguish shades of gray.

First off, the community has no "mantra." You do, and many around you agree with it, but no one has made that our official mantra.

Second, safe is a question of degree. How often do surgeons forget towels inside patients? I would sure as hell check three times to make sure I left nothing inside when I removed your balls, but you may bleed to death.

Third, if a surgeon is willing to cut off your balls for no reason other than you want him to, he is breaking some law for him to not harm a patient. Unless he has serious cause to believe it will benefit you, in which case you may as well go to an official institution to get it done.

So idiocy to endanger yourself without professionals? Knife play without a chef? Diaper play without a babysitter?

Not quite sure of the broader point you make though - I agree that there are shades of gray: I would not want to do it. If you want to , it aint wrong. You seem to think it is black and white: It's idiocy, period.

Know what your getting yourself into, for both parties, and nothing is idiocy.

A definition of community is a set of people with shared interests and values. There may be some people with some similar interests who aren't part of that community. It doesn't negate the community, and "safe, sane and consensual" is a community value in the community in which I play.

[Re the surgeon-- bad example because the medical "community" has its own set of laws and professional ethics-- point taken. But I was using it to refer to acceptable risk. However, take it the level of a legal sex change operation-- that's legal and ethically acceptable once certain psychological tests are passed]

I agree it's not a matter of absolutes-- it's a matter of acceptable degree of risk. No one I play with would let a total amateur, for example, without experience supervision, run a breath play scenario. But with a certain degree of safety and control, it is acceptable, and done.

All a matter of degree-- that's what defines cultures over time.

Good debate though--- one of the topics without an absolute answer.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 10:34:04 PM

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ORIGINAL: BeachMystress

Yuppers, it was the DW room. Wasn't he a trip?? He went by hastingsweenie last I heard, but the profile is no longer there. Too bad. I know you were just dying to go have a look... not. LOL

It's good to see you too! It's been a while. I've just opened a yahoo group that I plan to have revolve around Dominant women, male subs, long term relationships or marriage and the problems, challenges and joys of maintaining BDSM long term. We'd love to have you there if it interests you. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Mys_Beach/

Sweeeeeet....I'll have to look in on ya. maybe it will make up for....sniff sniff...not being able to find the "weenie" again....LOL

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 11:35:13 PM

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ORIGINAL: Aimtoplease101

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But this is why the mantra in the community is "safe and consensual."

A definition of community is a set of people with shared interests and values. There may be some people with some similar interests who aren't part of that community. It doesn't negate the community, and "safe, sane and consensual" is a community value in the community in which I play.

I agree with your defintion of community, it just seemed that you were saying the broader community had acceoted "SSC" as their slogan. Your community may have, and part of mine, and part of some other people's, but the BDSM community, to whatever extent it exists, has not. Some have, some have not. Thereofre. the community has not, but yours has.

Semantics, I know. All I'm saying is that drawing the line at what you do, and calling the rest idiots, is inviting the churchies to do the same, simply because of Karma.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/2/2007 11:43:44 PM

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ORIGINAL: SmokingGun82

quote:

ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64
if someone did give up info about said projects they would be shot so i doubt it if those projects dealt with certain security risk. anyone who has worked in those areas of gov knows this before they sign up. for example the guy that sold stuff to the Soviet union and other thingys sorry just the way it is

So if anyone who talks about these secret conspiracies is killed, how do you (or anyone else) know about them? Are you saying the government will kill people who talk, but won't go through with killing others who know things?

during ww2 it did happen and no one knows for sure if it is a black project that is classified that if anyone tried to you just do not know other countries do it what makes you think we are no different..there is this show i listen to late at night called coast to coast talks about ufo and other things paranormal. It use to be hosted by art bell.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/3/2007 2:11:36 AM

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

My intolerance here isn't the kink. It's the fact that some s-types are willing to risk the legal well being of a D-type for their fucking fantasies. Let your kink be your kink. I don't care. Your body is your body damnit and if you wanna OD til you need a stomach pump be my guest as long as you pay the damned bill so that my insurance doesn't go up. Just don't go around asking other people to put themselves at risk for your fantasy and then go call your self a s-type.

"How submissive"

What the difference between a submissive asking for this, and a Dominant saying they will indulge in branding or heavy cp ? Okay the castration scenario is extreme but both activities can carry a prison sentence. Operation Spanner was a case in the UK where some gay sm`ers were sent to prison, thats both the D and s types.

To me there is no difference between either type asking for heavy play. Thats their choice though and to suggest it`s only submissives that suggest such play is incorrect.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/3/2007 4:49:31 AM

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

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ORIGINAL: missturbation

I have a rat up my ass (not literally) about intolerance and judgement of others kinks at the moment
I'll get over it lol. Ive sat on not responding to this thread for a couple of days now to make sure i really did mean what i said and that i wasnt off the cuff ranting - and i wasn't

My intolerance here isn't the kink. It's the fact that some s-types are willing to risk the legal well being of a D-type for their fucking fantasies. Let your kink be your kink. I don't care. Your body is your body damnit and if you wanna OD til you need a stomach pump be my guest as long as you pay the damned bill so that my insurance doesn't go up. Just don't go around asking other people to put themselves at risk for your fantasy and then go call your self a s-type.

"How submissive"

Many things we do could legally implicate a Dom though.
Not so long back i was in the hospital and had a shot of morphine in my ass. A councillor was sent to see me to try and get to the bottom (excuse the pun) of the marks on my ass.
Legally it would have been assault, its really no different to the scenario you speak of. A little more extreme with higher risk of course but still the same basic principle.
What we choose to do as consenting adults be it caning or castration is entirely our own business. So your domme would choose not to castrate someone, thats fine but it does not make the kink wrong or the people who choose to do this idiots.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/3/2007 7:31:57 AM

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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

there is this show i listen to late at night called coast to coast talks about ufo and other things paranormal. It use to be hosted by art bell.

Everything is so much clearer now. Thank you.

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/3/2007 7:32:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: SmokingGun82

quote:

ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64
if someone did give up info about said projects they would be shot so i doubt it if those projects dealt with certain security risk. anyone who has worked in those areas of gov knows this before they sign up. for example the guy that sold stuff to the Soviet union and other thingys sorry just the way it is

So if anyone who talks about these secret conspiracies is killed, how do you (or anyone else) know about them? Are you saying the government will kill people who talk, but won't go through with killing others who know things?

Um, does this mean you guys are about to take a dirt nap??? Damn, that sucks! Can I have your toys?

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RE: What is it with these idiots? - 9/3/2007 7:38:42 AM

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To the OP ...

Basically, you're offended because of a request that some people make concerning their own kink without regard of the ramifications to other parties.

Yeah, so what? This kind of shit happens all the time and the answer is very simple. Email no thanks and go on. If that's not sufficient, block and delete works wonders.

Yet another thread on the same damned complaint that has been posted too many times to count.

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