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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:21:25 AM   
KatyLied


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Status: offline 		It's sad that your wife and son aren't allowed to rest in peace.  You are always mentioning them, and it's obviously in a bid to find a sub/slave who will be sympathetic to your blight.  It's pathetic.

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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:22:10 AM   
Bobkgin


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But Bob talks about his loss in most of his posts ... He also does scene reports what they used to do.



Excuse me, but neither of those statements are true.

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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:22:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		My sympathies for bob's loss. 
Doesnt alter the fact that I find most of his posts come under the, holier than thou, I know better than the rest of the world category.
Written as a way to attract subs, i doubt it.
Most of us would run a mile from someone with this many issues.

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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:25:21 AM   
Aileen68


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Status: offline 		Gotta agree with domi...anything that I really want to say will get me put on moderation.  Gonna pass on this trainwreck.

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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:27:14 AM   
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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:28:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Bobkgin
Is a husband not to talk about his dead wife? A father not to talk of his dead son? A master not to talk of his dead slave?


I don't think that anyone has suggested to you that you should pack their memories away in a closet and never speak of them Bob. But it would be nice if you could.....what is that phrase you are so fond of?.....demonstrate at least a modicum of respect for their memories. I really don't think you can do that by exposing the sexual details of your most intimate moments with your wife or speaking in detail of your young son on an internet bdsm sex site. Really, get yourself a good grief counselor or a good friend....but this ongoing display is quite tasteless.

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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:29:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		I was once in love with A beautiful sub...She was my life...We woke up every morning in each others arms...She loved to deep throat...Was a champion of ass play....Could tolerate more pain than Christ on the cross...Her smile lit the world...Alas, she is gone...Torn to shreds by a pack of wolverines....Someone please fuck me.

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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:29:28 AM   
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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:31:14 AM   
charmdpetKeira


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Status: offline 		I don’t find fault in someone for talking about a loved one who is deceased. I have a friend who often speaks of a sub he once owned and I can’t say there were any stories he told that I didn’t enjoy. I wouldn’t have been able to enjoy his stories though, if he constantly brought up the fact that she is now dead.

The tendency for someone to do this indicates to me, the person has not completely dealt with their loss or they wish to use the sympathies of others to gain attention for their loss.

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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:33:30 AM   
KatyLied


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quote:

Good lord, you people love to feed a troll.


It's hard not to when any comment that is made will be responded to.  We're all a bunch of bad, bad, internet bullies! 


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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:35:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		katy has cocker spaniel ears....They remind me of my dead sub.

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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:36:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RRafe

Good lord, you people love to feed a troll.


I keep hoping he can be salvaged. Grief can be life altering and I'm sympathetic to that. I just keep thinking there has to be someone underneath the barricade of memory.

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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:47:24 AM   
came4U


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Status: offline 		Sigh, we all have some pain from loss (death or other).

From this thread, I can see who trained whom considering his bantering about his 25--ish years in the lifestyle the wife seemed to lead in likes and dislikes.  So, the only thing Dom-ly I see is because he was in charge of the hammer and she was in charge of the lumber and the architecture. Even Mormons have designated or shared occupations amoung a community. Bob, your job was to be submissive to all around you.  Awe...how kind.

If it is a realationship/marriage loss, you heal and THEN seek a new partner eventually.  I don't know of many women who adore a 'victim' as a dom, poor me type. 

As I said some 50 posts ago..your profile says your are looking to REPLACE the wife/slave you lost to cancer.

omg,

Would she wear her clothes? Her shoes? Pretend she went to the same high school? How Bates Motel-creepy.

Heal first, then come back ready to accept a 'slave/sub' not one to REPLACE. 

I have no pity, I have places and times that I give support, this isn't the place or the time for deep emotional or financial funding. I don't know you or your former spouse, this is not "Spouse Survivor of of Cancer meeting.  

If you assume that ...well, as I said 5x, and long before the other thread about 'damsels in distress' you want someone to save you from your pain, if you ask me.  I think your pain is personal and you should come back and seek a real woman, with self-esteem when you can handle such. What kind of person can you attract in your state??? Well, another with issues larger than yours.


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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:48:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: sweetNsmartBBW
I don't pretend to know the OP's motives here....but the thing is, nobody other than Him actually knows them either. Telling Him that He should be ashamed of Himself, or that His post are disgusting and distasteful - why? Death is part of life...it comes to all of us, and we all have lost loved ones...or will. Why is His sharing the details of the life He shared with them such a horrible thing?


There are no words that adequately describe the pain of losing a loved one.  As you point out, it is a pain we have all felt, or will.

However, just as we do not know the OP's motives, neither do we know the rest of what is in his heart.  We only know that which we see here.

Consequently, while each of us may (and I hope do) have sympathy for his loss, none of us can share his grief or mourn with him.  There is not enough of him here to permit this; that power is not given to us.

Moreover, the OP has, in multiple posts, made reference to his loss.  No matter the pain, is it right, or proper, that he persist in wringing sympathy from our hearts?  Is it a fitting memorial to the departed to use their memories to strum the heartstrings of total strangers?  Can the reasonable man read this eulogy, eloquent in its way, and not feel somehow exploited?

I hope Bob will read this, measure my words, and find the strength within himself to bury his dead, and to rejoin the living.



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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:50:32 AM   
KatyLied


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quote:

How Bates Motel-creepy.


You win!  I wish I'd come up with that.


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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:55:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Bob: Is posting this "tribute" theraputic to you? Help us understand why you needed to "speak on behalf of a dead slave..."

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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 10:57:03 AM   
Bobkgin


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Status: offline 		To the audience at large:

Just how is it "disgusting" to talk about the things my wife took pride in?

Is BDSM something to be ashamed of and hidden after a person dies?

While she was alive we had no need to talk to others of what we shared. It was enough to talk about it between ourselves.

But when she told me to not give up on love should she go, to tell others of what we shared so that they'd know how much she loved me and what kind of man I am, to not let her be forgotten ...

I see many people talk about past and present partners, presumably all alive.

I speak of a wife whom I loved dearly and who was my slave.

Why should it offend anyone? And why should anyone offended not choose to move on rather than attack me for speaking of her?

What is the "One True Way" for handling such matters?

Or is there only one way to handle this?


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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 11:00:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I think it's wonderful he chose to share these fond memories with everyone and that we should each cherish who W/we have just that much more.

Thank you for sharing this Bobkgin.  My hat is off to you, Sir.


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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 11:04:08 AM   
Bobkgin


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ORIGINAL: DarkDaddyZ

Bob: Is posting this "tribute" theraputic to you? Help us understand why you needed to "speak on behalf of a dead slave..."


For the reasons expressed in the OP.

Some have taken it upon themselves to tell me how to honour my dead.

Some have taken it upon themselves to deny the existence of my dead, with no better reason than that they don't seem to like me and perhaps suffer from a form of paranoia. Apparently people can speak of past partners, but not if they're dead (or at least, they shouldn't mention they are dead).

Now how confusing is it if I speak of a slave or wife without making clear that the individual in question is no longer in my life?

And how confusing is it to hear that a wife is not in my life, but to not know whether it is by divorce or death?

And how confusing would it be if I mention no past partners, when there have been several and the relationship that lasted longest and meant the most was the one I shared with a wife I'm not to mention?

Seems my efforts to make clear the situation aggravates some. I fail to see why it should.

So I am curious to see what opinions on the matter exist in the 'community'.

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RE: Speaking on behalf of a dead slave ... - 9/7/2007 11:04:54 AM   
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