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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods - 9/9/2007 3:42:44 PM   
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As for osteo-whatever (pre, post, current), I add calcium citrate & dry vitamin D to my diet, milk (whole, 2%, 1%, skim) all have bunches of sugar in them that I can't have so I also avoid milk.



From what I recall, after about the age of 2, the human body no longer produces the enzyme required to break the chemical bond between the calcium and whatever it is bonded to in milk.

You can drink milk all day long, it will not help your bones one iota.

The body can, however, easily break calcium citrate into calcium and citric acid, both of which it can immediately use.

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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods from the gr... - 9/9/2007 3:50:19 PM   
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I once tried some chips that were mustard flavored.... it was like pouring mustard into my mouth... I hate mustard.
 
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It is rather amazing  that you hate mustard but you tried mustard chips and didn't like them...I don't like the smell of poop...I wouldn't probably try Lays new poopy chips.

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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods - 9/9/2007 3:53:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wow, thanks for all of the replies, people. It's been interesting to come back and read this thread. I know that taste is an individual thing, however, I still think there are some foods that are generally repulsive (at least maybe here in the U.S. - who mentioned chicken feet? That is probably one of them hehe...)

Sinergy - doesn't Spinach have some calcium in it?(I seem to eat an above average amount of it) I am not sure if it does. I really did drink milk like I owned my own dairy when I was a kid - I dunno why, but I did. I do take a multi-vitamin, but maybe there is something else I should be doing to make sure I get enough vitamin D? (Do you (or does anyone here) happen to have any info on this? If so, will you write in here and let me know? Thanks.)

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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods - 9/9/2007 4:02:55 PM   
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Wow, thanks for all of the replies, people. It's been interesting to come back and read this thread.

Sinergy, doesn't Spinach have some calcium in it?(I seem yo eat an above average amount of it) I am not sure, I really did drink milk like I owned my own dairy when I was a kid - I dunno why, but I did. I do take a multi-vitamin, but maybe there is something else I should be doing to make sureIi get enough vitamin D? (Do you (or anyone) happen to have any info on this?)

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The amount of spinach you would have to eat (or any vegetable) is possible, but the amounts are not just oversized portions; they are huge amounts.

Get calcium citrate tablets at the health food store.

I am not sure what form of calcium is in foods that are fortified, but as far as FDA standards, I am fairly dubious.  An example of this is vitamin D.  400 international units (minimum daily amount per the FDA) does one thing; it prevents rickets.  A person wandering naked around the African savannah produces something like 10,000iu a day from exposure to the sun.  Getting plenty of sun is also useful because the chemical processes in your body to deal with the sun converts colesterol into good things for your body.

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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods - 9/9/2007 4:11:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks for the information, Sinergy. I think maybe just through sheer luck, (and being lucky enough to have been born in the U.S. and had a mother who payed attention to what we kids were eating, at least to some degree anyway, when I was a kid) - I've mananged to be attracted to a fairly healthy diet most of my life (but I also love my fair share of "junk" food).

But I am mostly uneducated when it comes to specific foods and what they actually contain, as far as vitamins, and maybe I've read a magazine article or two here or there, but it's not my specialty area or anything - and I thought you might know.  I appreciate the information.

- Susan

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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods - 9/9/2007 4:11:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		Professor Loren Cordain on bone health:

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Bone health is substantially dependent on dietary acid/base balance.  All foods upon digestion ultimately must report to the kidney as either acid or base.  When the diet yields a net acid load (such as low-carb fad diets that restrict consumption of fruits and vegetables), the acid must be buffered by the alkaline stores of base in the body.  Calcium salts in the bones represent the largest store of alkaline base in the body and are depleted and eliminated in the urine when the diet produces a net acid load.  The highest acid-producing foods are hard cheeses, cereal grains, salted foods, meats, and legumes, whereas the only alkaline, base-producing foods are fruits and vegetables.  Because the average American diet is overloaded with grains, cheeses, salted processed foods, and fatty meats at the expense of fruits and vegetables, it produces a net acid load and promotes bone demineralization.  By replacing hard cheeses, cereal grains, and processed foods with plenty of green vegetables and fruits, the body comes back into acid/base balance which brings us also back into calcium balance.  The goal is to avoid a net acid load on your kidneys.


http://www.thepaleodiet.com/nutritional_tools/acid.shtml

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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods - 9/9/2007 4:13:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Level: That was interesting (and helpful). I did not know any of this. I do seem to like green leafy veggies, (which a lot of people seem to hate, or be nuetral on), so that is probably a good thing. Thank you!

- Susan

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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods - 9/9/2007 4:41:01 PM   
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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods from the gr... - 9/9/2007 5:09:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		I LOVE those lime chips but if I eat alot, yeah- they can give me a rumbly tummy..but if you eat too much of anything that can happen....i think the worst packaged product is that damn potted meat...ewwwww

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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods from the gr... - 9/9/2007 5:20:14 PM   
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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods - 9/9/2007 5:33:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

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ORIGINAL: LeMis

As for osteo-whatever (pre, post, current), I add calcium citrate & dry vitamin D to my diet, milk (whole, 2%, 1%, skim) all have bunches of sugar in them that I can't have so I also avoid milk.



From what I recall, after about the age of 2, the human body no longer produces the enzyme required to break the chemical bond between the calcium and whatever it is bonded to in milk.

You can drink milk all day long, it will not help your bones one iota.

The body can, however, easily break calcium citrate into calcium and citric acid, both of which it can immediately use.

Sinergy


I don't drink milk anymore but I wouldn't be surprised if what you say is true.
I have been taking calcium citrate (in a fine powdered form from UpCalD) for the past few years along with dry vitamin D3.  I will have to get a dexascan later this year to see what's going on with the bones.


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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods from the gr... - 9/9/2007 5:34:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sinergy's right about getting enough vitimin D through sunlight.
Think about it, don't you always "feel better" after laying in the sun for half an hour or so?
I always do.
Some days I might take my lawn chair outside and get 20 minutes of sun and I feel better.

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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods from the gr... - 9/9/2007 5:41:14 PM   
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Sinergy's right about getting enough vitimin D through sunlight.
Think about it, don't you always "feel better" after laying in the sun for half an hour or so?
I always do.
Some days I might take my lawn chair outside and get 20 minutes of sun and I feel better.


I agree with the both of  you.

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Scientists are excited about a vitamin again. But unlike fads that sizzled and fizzled, the evidence this time is strong and keeps growing. If it bears out, it will challenge one of medicine's most fundamental beliefs: that people need to coat themselves with sunscreen (search) whenever they're in the sun. Doing that may actually contribute to far more cancer deaths than it prevents, some researchers think. The vitamin is D, nicknamed the "sunshine vitamin" because the skin makes it from ultraviolet rays. Sunscreen blocks its production, but dermatologists and health agencies have long preached that such lotions are needed to prevent skin cancer. Now some scientists are questioning that advice. The reason is that vitamin D (search) increasingly seems important for preventing and even treating many types of cancer. In the last three months alone, four separate studies found it helped protect against lymphoma and cancers of the prostate, lung and, ironically, the skin. The strongest evidence is for colon cancer. Many people aren't getting enough vitamin D. It's hard to do from food and fortified milk alone, and supplements are problematic. So the thinking is this: Even if too much sun leads to skin cancer, which is rarely deadly, too little sun may be worse.
 http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,157348,00.html

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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods from the gr... - 9/9/2007 5:59:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I love any kind of olives, so when I was offered a raw one, I popped it in my mouth and bit down with great anticipation.  It was absolutely horrid, The oil coated the inside of my mouth. I brushed my tongue and teeth for a good five minutes and still couldn't get the taste out of my mouth.  I found out the hard way that olives have to be cured/brined/salted/pickled before they taste good.


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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods from the gr... - 9/9/2007 6:01:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		the taste of cilantro makes me sick-can almost make me have a panic attack......i gave up trying to understand it-insanity is much easier to deal with when you just embrace it.....

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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods from the gr... - 9/9/2007 9:08:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yes, three hours in the sun is probably too much.
I never use sunblock or anything like it.
I just tan myself gradually everyday.
I don't like that processed chicken stuff. "Fingers" "Nuggets" or whatever.
I'm not a chicken person at all but I love turkey.

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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods from the gr... - 9/9/2007 10:08:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		i LOVE cilantro.  It's my favorite herb.  i also dig the lime chips :) 

What i don't understand, going along with the marketing thing, is why when a movie is rated PG13 or R they make toys for kids to go along with the movie.  Just wondering...i know it's a little off the original post.  Sorry!

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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods from the gr... - 9/9/2007 10:53:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		pickled eggs. i hate them my ex hubby loved them and would eat them all the time .. and i hate the smell of raw chicken.. when i was pregnant.. he worked at a bojangles and would come home smelling like raw chicken and i also hate seafood i can't stand the taste it makes me puke. ( and the werid thing is i live on an island) and there's lots more food i hate... am a super picky eater

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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods from the gr... - 9/10/2007 2:36:48 AM   
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I once tried some chips that were mustard flavored.... it was like pouring mustard into my mouth... I hate mustard.
 
Jewel


It is rather amazing  that you hate mustard but you tried mustard chips and didn't like them...I don't like the smell of poop...I wouldn't probably try Lays new poopy chips.
Keep in mind that things made with something, don't always reflect the accurate taste of the ingredients. Cocoa is a good example...the stuff tastes terrible by itself, but in candy or hot chocolate....poof, it's good. BUT...I'm not trying poopy chips either, lol....that might be a hard limit. Of course I do love guacamole (on things) and I can't think of a thing appealing about it, not sure what possessed me to even try it the first time :-)


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RE: Weird and-or intolerable packaged foods from the gr... - 9/10/2007 2:43:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		I second your "No go" on the poopy chips, ScooterTrash, hehe.

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