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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 9:22:44 AM   
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As much as 'deciding for myself isn't working out', the reason there is no magic number is, in part, due to the fact that each person on the other side of you is different, too. Line up 4 guys in a row in your head that you're interested in and do you think they'd all want to both have good sex and still respect you after date 1? Maybe date 4? Do you think each and every one of them would bring flowers to date 2? Or put you in a collar on date 3?

Suggestions are great, and I hope they work for you, but don't make them your bible. Get a feel for the guy in person. If he pushes buttons that always seem to get pushed, then maybe it's that you respond well to general behavior. If something new happens that wows you in a positive manner.. enjoy yourself and don't make excuses to him or for yourself. ;)

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 10:40:58 AM   
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There is no time table beyond the three date rule...Three solid fucking dates...Anywhooo, I rarely make it past one without getting knee deep in the shit...I'm a fucking simple artist...Who would have the nerve to stop an artist when those creative juices start to flow?  I work in pussy juice and cum like other artists work in clay...Tis the medium that the good Lord chose for me.

To the op....Shine on you crazy diamond.

Also ....If I find some sub ....Who's paying on the fifth date...We will be having a series of "fifth" dates....

subbie: Domiguy, what are we doing tonight?
Domiguy:  Funny you should ask...We are having another fifth date tonight....Drinks and a big fat buttery slab of meat at Ruth Chris....God how I love fifth dates!

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 10:44:35 AM   
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loooooooooool

you so missed my point.  Girls don't take a guy out for some giant meal for a fifth date.  They buy him a frappuccino and a bagel or something so they can say "look! I pay for stuff too!"

muahahahaha

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 10:59:12 AM   
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I'll pay for the frappucino and the bagel...The sushi and the big buttery steak at  Ruth Chris...You wanna pay your own way?  Hows about you work off several hundred bucks "the hard way."

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 11:12:26 AM   
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quote:

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I'll pay for the frappucino and the bagel...The sushi and the big buttery steak at  Ruth Chris...You wanna pay your own way?  Hows about you work off several hundred bucks "the hard way."


heh..damnnnnnnnn that is hot

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 11:17:14 AM   
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To the op...You like a good phone fucking?  ...How about a nice forum fuck?...Voyuerism it can be pretty fuckin' kinky...

What are you wearing?  Me, you ask?  I'm currently wearing some titey whiteys and a pair of wing tips...I'm so hard...And your right, the pic on your profile does make you look like an angel...A crazy angel but an angel nonetheless.

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 11:27:14 AM   
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Crazy angel? Never been called that before. Not as crazy as you are I'm sure. I read your posts alot. You're a piece of work. Like your sense of humor though.

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 11:28:35 AM   
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call me.

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 11:28:51 AM   
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Two second kiss on the first date.  Long goodnight kiss on the second, possible making out.  Serious making out on the third date, possible taking off of shirts.  Discussion of "where this is going" on the fourth date, taking off shirts and possibly foreplay but still no sex to make sure he isn't just lying to get in your pants.  Quick coffee or lunch for fifth date, passionate lusty goodbye kiss torn apart by lack of time and promises to see each other soon.  Sex on the sixth date with your newly hooked "boyfriend".

Heh.  Or at least that's what Cosmo says.   I haven't tried it myself

Edited to add: also pay for the coffee or lunch 5th date.  It will make him think "wow this chick is pretty cool and self sufficient" and see you as potential awesome gf material.



Well I truly messed up then.
Met him online
Agreed to meet and play
Met and had dinner
Went to my hotel room where he did ............ well lots of rope and needles involved and stuff
Had sex
Went home

Oh now live together and have done for 2 years. Happy as anyone can be.

So nope no rules, no timetable.

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 11:31:34 AM   
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If you did all that with him that soon, how were you able to tell he wanted more than one night of fun?

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 11:36:32 AM   
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Chick...Don't you have the slightest ability to read someone?  I have on more than one occassion had a relationship with someone I messed around with upon meeting...it was just that all of the dots miraculously connected....Or maybe it was the Gentleman Jack? Either way things worked out....

Have you considered eharmony?...Might be more your cup o' joe.

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 11:38:33 AM   
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Not everyone starts a relationship with the expectation that it will last forever.
I do not force immediate monogamy on anyone and I would be suspicious of someone who did that with me.  I don't want to be with a guy who is desperate.
I'd rather allow a relationship to develop naturally, without forcing things.  I also do not date a lot, so I don't have a lot of experience with guys who fuck and run, I've never had that issue. 
I'm not sure if it's how you approach things or if it's the men you approach or perhaps a bit of both.  But I think the fact that you consider a physical relationship "putting out" may have something to do with it.  You make it sound like a chore, yet you also seem to think it is a special thing.  I see some conflict there.


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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 11:46:13 AM   
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quote:

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If you did all that with him that soon, how were you able to tell he wanted more than one night of fun?


Because of the chats we had and the person he was / is. At the time I started talking to him it was the first week of having my ad on Bondage. As you can imagine I had many many messages and had lots of chats with people on yahoo. It was pretty simple to weed out the "wank fodder" guys. Then those that were left got sorted into "no" and maybe. Out of the maybes I met 3. Master was one of the 3. The other 2 I am still in contact with and regard one of them as a good friend. The other I do some work for as we are both in the same field.

I used my judgement and listened to what they were saying. I did not have a set list of things that he should do or be ( I am thinking of your prerequisites as in Must have a car, must have a job). The most important thing was finding someone that I could feel a connection with. When we met he was earning far less than I was and I bought the house we are living in. By your rules he would be sent on his way for that alone. But we now run a successful business together and are very happy. So do not cross people off the list just because they are not a perfect match to your list. Be open and do not prejudge.

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 12:14:08 PM   
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Chick...Don't you have the slightest ability to read someone?  I have on more than one occassion had a relationship with someone I messed around with upon meeting...it was just that all of the dots miraculously connected....Or maybe it was the Gentleman Jack? Either way things worked out....

Have you considered eharmony?...Might be more your cup o' joe.


Actually, I have a great ability when it comes to reading other women......better than most. The problem is, I have no idea how to read men. I've had this problem for as long as I can remember. Here's an example: I met great guy and we were attracted to each other. He wanted to have sex that same day and I said not till I get to know you better. He said it would be better if we were just friends and completely lost interest. I found out later from his ex gf that they had sex the first day they met and almost got married. Then I met another guy. We were also attracted to each other. Remembering my mistake with the last guy, I was eager to have sex with him. Afterwords, he told me that he didn't want a relationship with any woman that would have sex with a guy on the first meet. Of course I can't read men. I wish I could but they are too damn confusing. I have no interest in eharmony. I don't want a vanilla guy.

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 12:22:59 PM   
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What's the worst that can happen if you sleep with a guy you're attracted to on  the first date?  You don't work out?  Or you do.  Odds are fifty fifty.  Try it once or twice.  You may just like it.

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 12:25:58 PM   
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Knowing my luck, I'd end up having sex with 20 complete strangers before finding someone. Then what would I tell him when he asked how many men I've been with? Lying is wrong because honesty and trust are the basis for good relationships. If I told the truth he would think I was a tramp.

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 12:29:30 PM   
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Or he's one of the first ones that you meet. 

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 12:33:06 PM   
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Maybe.

Maybe you did wait exactly long enough and you were exactly right. And he's just trying to be manipulative and trying to make you feel bad about making the right decision for you.

Either way, sounds like time to move on.

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 12:33:06 PM   
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If I'm lucky it would be one of the first. If I'm not, it could be the 50th. I'm not sure I could live with myself if I had casual sex with 50 complete strangers. I'd feel like a dirty worthless slut and not in a good way.

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RE: I screwed up big time. - 9/15/2007 12:35:27 PM   
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Well they are plenty of guys who enjoy being with a woman that has been around the block a time or fifty....Take Aileen for instance....One look and you can clearly see that she has been on the angry end of many a cock.

Anywhooo....op you are a strange chick...Have you ever thought about playing for the other team?....Most pussy I have found is quite palatable and since you can read women, you would know whether they like you, just wanted to fuck you or were just trying to meet your hair stylist.  This might be your best avenue to pursue to find true love.


You are an angel.

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