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RE: UK Already a Police State? - 10/7/2007 11:50:41 PM

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Philospophy....On reflection you are correct, although the behaviour of some of the rioters had no excuse the rioting lasted until 3 am and almost all the crowd had dispersed way before then.

As to blaming Thatcher the police of that era had been just as bad, stemming back to Grunwick under labour. That all leads back to the anti Vietnam demos of the late 60s and later when the police lost control in Red Lion Square. (Anti NF demo i think ) During that march the police just charged the crowd, im pretty sure Wilson was in power but it may have been Ted Heath.

...true.........the role of the police force had been chipped away at for a while. However, Thatcher systematically employed them as a political tool. That was new....and heinous.

One of the fallacies of polite Britain is that it thinks it has a gentlemanly police force. Whenever there has been political protests they have always become a violent force in defence of the government. Just go back to the Aldermaston marches. Hell go back to the General Strike!

The police arrested 225 (I think that is the correct number) striking miners at Orgreave in the miner's strike for rioting, when it was the police that rioted. In Sheffield Crown court, the police put forward their evidence, the judge looked at all the independent evidence and evidence for the defence and called the Chief Constable of South Yorkshire a liar and all the arrested miners were freed. Not one was found guilty of rioting.

Personally, if a little bit of rioting stopped Britain taking part in the Iraqi war, I would have seen it as no bad thing.

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RE: UK Already a Police State? - 10/8/2007 4:42:34 AM

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Interesting that Thatcher gave Military a raise. junky veteran hospitals here -and getting worse. if the war is S0 important, one would conclude vet hospitals would be in operational or better shape.

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RE: UK Already a Police State? - 10/8/2007 11:08:48 AM

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Rugby is going because its mainly followed by and played by those capable of inciting dissent and executing rebellion

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Like these rugby dissenters and rebels?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oe3E-Uur41g

You won't have any problems keeping a tight ship with that crowd.

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RE: UK Already a Police State? - 10/8/2007 12:26:51 PM

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If only real men, of both sexes, just like these Rugby players would devote their energies to politics we could get rid of the spineless internationalist pseudo socialist lot we have got, get some action and get the country back into much better shape !

Recidivist criminals would be the first target.
Sentence them to 6mths of permanent scrum downs with the biggest ugliest toothless meanest set of forwards you could muster. That would learn 'em. he he he he he he.
Any advisors running on the pitch to help would expect to get trampled into the turf face down under the biggest boots possible. The last boot to supply a hard kick up the arse.

Gooooaad save our team !

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