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RRafe -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/17/2007 7:30:51 PM)
This is getting so personal![&:] http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=17002

MadRabbit -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/17/2007 7:33:28 PM)
Not over here. If people want to get emotional and tell me I am saying things or meaning things that I am, in fact, not saying or meaning, they can go right ahead.

chellekitty -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/17/2007 7:39:34 PM)
i heard MadRabbit say he wanted a iced coffee enema...who wants to help me give it to him? [sm=flying.gif]

MadRabbit -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/17/2007 7:42:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: chellekitty i heard MadRabbit say he wanted a iced coffee enema...who wants to help me give it to him? [sm=flying.gif] Yep...thats right there with my vicious brutual attack of intolerance and unacceptance against the persecuted poor little "No Limit" slaves and my lack of understanding that I clearly dont have for any "No Limit" relationship and not just my quarms with the narrations of a couple of people.

chellekitty -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/17/2007 7:44:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit quote: ORIGINAL: chellekitty i heard MadRabbit say he wanted a iced coffee enema...who wants to help me give it to him? [sm=flying.gif] Yep...thats right there with my vicious brutual attack of intolerance and unacceptance against the persecuted poor little "No Limit" slaves and my lack of understanding that I clearly dont have for any "No Limit" relationship and not just my quarms with the narrations of a couple of people. uh huh, i saw it with my own two ears... does it smell red in here to you?

slavegirljoy -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/17/2007 8:04:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit Since I am going to assume that this is directed to me, I would suggest you actually read what I am writing. No, my comments weren't directed to you, personally, MadRabbit. i used GhitaAmati's post as a jumping-off point for my remarks but, they were for anyone wanting to read them and not directed to anyone in particular. There have been plenty of people, in fact, i would say the majority on here, who have stated negative opinions about anyone who says they are living as a, so called "no limits" slave within their M/s relationship. i say "so called" because that isn't my term. It's the term that is being used here. "No limits" isn't a term that i ever used to describe myself although, "no limits" is what i am with my Master. i have read your posts, MadRabbit, with great interest, as always. i find them well written but, highly prejudiced. slave joy Owned property of Master David

RRafe -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/17/2007 8:06:46 PM)
Just click my link for stress relief-worked for me.[:D]

MadRabbit -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/17/2007 8:21:03 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy i find them well written but, highly prejudiced. You are reading some of the claims made here, right?

RRafe -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/17/2007 8:24:24 PM)
The way to shut it down is confidence. Stop defending-the attack is of no consequence.

BitaTruble -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/17/2007 8:57:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit When the day comes when I have full experience with an individual who has trully convinced me that they are completely wired differently, I will change my opinion (I doubt however that my opinion about somebody who wont enforce boundaries as being a "good" thing will ever change). Until then, viscarious Internet experiences just dont count for me. I recognize a door closing when I see one. I won't make further attempts. quote: I trust your words around here a lot more then many other peoples, but even now, things just arent adding up for me. Why? Because reviewing the "Worthlessness" thread, you refused to eat a tomatoe that you were told to eat because you were allergic to it. Well, I don't understand that remark at all or what doesn't add up in your mind, but as it's very clear to me this will go no where, I don't see the point in wasting your time or mine in hashing it out here. If you want to clarify what doesn't add up for you in pm on the other side, I'd be happy to do so, but I don't think it will serve a purpose to the thread itself. Celeste

catize -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/17/2007 9:19:13 PM)
quote: Made no difference- in the moment. I was the wolf-she was the meat. How much I took was up to me-and my sense of consequence. And here is the crux of it. Whether or not a slave or submissive is willing to accept death as a consequence of obedience, most dominants/masters/mistresses DO have a strong sense of self-preservation. They may be capable of taking it that far, but getting caught would be a bitch. A few years of sitting on death row contemplating the final needle play scene, would, in my best guess, make them wish the deceased would have had the decency to have a few limits.

slavegirljoy -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/17/2007 9:30:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit quote: ORIGINAL: slavegirljoy i find them well written but, highly prejudiced. You are reading some of the claims made here, right? Yes, i am. And, i have no idea who is doing all that they say they are doing and who is not. Therefor, i have no way of knowing whether what they post is the truth or not. i can't pass that judgment on anyone here and, i have no interest in doing so. It's fascinating to read all the different ways that people say they are living their lives, within the context of their M/s relationships. i don't bother trying to figure out who is really living that way and who isn't. That just doesn't concern me. i enjoy reading all of the different viewpoints that people have. What i do know is that, within my relationship with my Master, i live without placing any limits on Him or on how He uses me. He decides that. He has free reign over me. Call that "no limits" or not. It makes no difference to me. i didn't invent the term. i don't know who did or when or what they meant by it when they started using it. Whether you believe it's real or not, my relationship with my Master is based on my being His slave without limits on what He does with me or to me. If you or someone else has a better way of saying that, then i would be happy to hear it. Maybe there's a much better term for it. The way i'm living my life, as a slave without limits on or with Master David is simply what it is, no matter what it's called. And, i'm very glad for it. Sure, if He had been a lunatic, He could have done me great harm when i first met Him. He still could, if He were a lunatic. But, He's not. i know that i took a risk when i went to meet Him for the first time. And, it wasn't the first time i had taken such a risk in meeting someone from the Internet or from personal ads in the newspaper. All i had to go by was what He had told me about Himself in phone conversations and emails and my gut feeling about Him. That's all i have ever had to go by when i decided to meet someone for the first time and, i have always come out very well. i have never met a kook and no one has ever done me harm. Maybe i've been very lucky or maybe i have very good instincts or maybe there just aren't as many kooks in BDSM as some might think. But, if i hadn't taken that risk, i would not be in the best place of my life, right now, like i am. i owe Him everything. He can take anything He wants from me. That's how i feel about Him. slave joyOwned property of Master David

BitaTruble -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/17/2007 9:41:46 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: catize quote: Made no difference- in the moment. I was the wolf-she was the meat. How much I took was up to me-and my sense of consequence. And here is the crux of it. Whether or not a slave or submissive is willing to accept death as a consequence of obedience, most dominants/masters/mistresses DO have a strong sense of self-preservation. They may be capable of taking it that far, but getting caught would be a bitch. I could not agree with this more! I seriously don't get all the hoopla over no limit slaves when it's no limits Masters who are truly dangerous: Armin Meiwes, Bobby Glass, John Robinson to name a few. Two of those men killed people who volunteered. quote: A few years of sitting on death row contemplating the final needle play scene, would, in my best guess, make them wish the deceased would have had the decency to have a few limits. Probably not with the guys I mentioned, but you never know. I just think they would have kept searching for a volunteer or, ultimately, they would have just taken someone. Then there are murderers such as Edmund Kemper who didn't wait around for consent so limits would have made no difference. Celeste

slavegirljoy -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/17/2007 10:06:03 PM)
Brilliant!! Absolutely, brilliant. "No limits Masters"! That is so good. It's really so important for a slave to have a clear understanding of a Master's limits, before entering into a relationship with Him. i found out what my Master's limits are, before meeting Him. If i hadn't felt comfortable with His limits, i never would have met Him, much less agreed to become His property. Both of you deserve a great big "Thank You" for making such a sensible argument. It's strange that it took this long for someone to turn this thing around and place the responsibility right where it belongs, squarely on the shoulders of the Master. But, i sure am glad that you did. Maybe now, the slaves can get a break from having to defend their way of serving. Thank you so much for making this point. It can't be emphasized or repeated enough. slave joy Owned property of Master David quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble quote: ORIGINAL: catize quote: Made no difference- in the moment. I was the wolf-she was the meat. How much I took was up to me-and my sense of consequence. And here is the crux of it. Whether or not a slave or submissive is willing to accept death as a consequence of obedience, most dominants/masters/mistresses DO have a strong sense of self-preservation. They may be capable of taking it that far, but getting caught would be a bitch. I could not agree with this more! I seriously don't get all the hoopla over no limit slaves when it's no limits Masters who are truly dangerous: Armin Meiwes, Bobby Glass, John Robinson to name a few. Two of those men killed people who volunteered. quote: A few years of sitting on death row contemplating the final needle play scene, would, in my best guess, make them wish the deceased would have had the decency to have a few limits. Probably not with the guys I mentioned, but you never know. I just think they would have kept searching for a volunteer or, ultimately, they would have just taken someone. Then there are murderers such as Edmund Kemper who didn't wait around for consent so limits would have made no difference. Celeste

TotalState -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/18/2007 4:15:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: BitaTruble I could not agree with this more! I seriously don't get all the hoopla over no limit slaves when it's no limits Masters who are truly dangerous: Armin Meiwes, Bobby Glass, John Robinson to name a few. Two of those men killed people who volunteered. Yet it is the existance of no-limit slaves that gives the no-limit masters their validation. They come here looking to see if we think it is "all right" to have no limits. We say no, not in our opinion, and then it's all whining nonsense about how mean we are being to them? Personally, I couldn't care less what the no-limit crowd is claiming. I don't hate them. I don't begrudge them their fantasy. What concerns me is that inexperienced people with romantic notions of slavery in their head are coming here to learn, and they will think that their fantasy version of slavery is something that can not only be achieved, but is something that people can happily live with, safe and sound. I'm concerned that some no-limit fool is going to get seriously hurt, or seriously hurt someone, and the authorities in my country are going to lump me in with the "extreme" crowd because I admit to being a lifestyle bdsm person. I am concerned with being too tolerant, and with inaction allowing people to think having no limits is just fine. Just another kink. Well, it isn't. It's irresponsible. It's dangerous. edited for typos

MadRabbit -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/18/2007 4:51:55 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL:BitaTruble quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit When the day comes when I have full experience with an individual who has trully convinced me that they are completely wired differently, I will change my opinion (I doubt however that my opinion about somebody who wont enforce boundaries as being a "good" thing will ever change). Until then, viscarious Internet experiences just dont count for me. I recognize a door closing when I see one. I won't make further attempts. Nope. Not a door, because you are talking about "no limits" in another context. I am not talking about some headspace of extreme erotic thrill seeking. I am talking about it the context presented here by two individuals. Why is that off any context off the Internet anyone who would endure the abuse and mistreatment of another human being is someone who serious self worth and self respect, but yet here on Collarme.com, its being romantized by two girls to be something beautiful and great? People need to turn their brains back on when reading what exactly two people are claiming and carry the thoughts through to some rational and logical conclusions. quote: ORIGINAL:BitaTruble quote: I trust your words around here a lot more then many other peoples, but even now, things just arent adding up for me. Why? Because reviewing the "Worthlessness" thread, you refused to eat a tomatoe that you were told to eat because you were allergic to it. Well, I don't understand that remark at all or what doesn't add up in your mind, but as it's very clear to me this will go no where, I don't see the point in wasting your time or mine in hashing it out here. If you want to clarify what doesn't add up for you in pm on the other side, I'd be happy to do so, but I don't think it will serve a purpose to the thread itself. Celeste Because it goes to crux of what I am saying here. Anyone who is in abusive situation where they are mistreated and coming full force to experiencing serious harm or death at the hands of someone else is gonna enforce boundaries to protect themselves. Someone who wont enforce boundaries against someone who is mistreating and abusing them isnt something that is romantic, beautiful or gloried like these two girls are portraying it as in their posts.

hisannabelle -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/18/2007 6:44:45 AM)
quote: Why is that off any context off the Internet anyone who would endure the abuse and mistreatment of another human being is someone who serious self worth and self respect, but yet here on Collarme.com, its being romantized by two girls to be something beautiful and great? greetings madrabbit, i was attempting to give up on this thread, but i felt the desire to correct this misconception. i've never called it something beautiful or great. in fact, i've said a few times in a few different places that i don't think it makes me special or better than any other slave, and that yes, we have problems just like any other relationship. this is just the way things are for us, and it's fulfilling for us; it's not going to be fulfilling for everyone, nor would i try to convince anyone that it is, and it certainly isn't some wonderful fantasy where everything goes fabulously all the time (relationships do not work like that, last i checked). we are two human beings like any other two human beings, and when any two human beings come together in relationship, as owner/property or otherwise, there will be problems, there will be difficulties, and there will be good times, too. i do not think the fact that our relationship is the way it is makes it any more "beautiful and great" than any other relationship, nor have i ever claimed as such. do i love it? do i think it is a beautiful relationship because it is fulfilling for us? yes...but i do not glorify it as more wonderful and fabulous than any other relationship simply because that is the way i prefer things to be. and i CERTAINLY do not try to claim that we don't have problems like any other relationship does; in fact, currently i am having some very real difficulties that are affecting me and the relationship in a lot of different ways, and i am trying to learn how to deal with those. it is not easy. i would request again that you please stop putting words in my mouth. respectfully, annabelle.

mistoferin -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/18/2007 6:51:33 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit People need to turn their brains back on when reading what exactly two people are claiming and carry the thoughts through to some rational and logical conclusions. There are only a few conclusions that the logical and rational mind can draw from the scenarios as depicted.....fantasy BS or insanity.

KnightofMists -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/18/2007 7:06:09 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mistoferin quote: ORIGINAL: MadRabbit People need to turn their brains back on when reading what exactly two people are claiming and carry the thoughts through to some rational and logical conclusions. There are only a few conclusions that the logical and rational mind can draw from the scenarios as depicted.....fantasy BS or insanity. and that is a conclusion that many would rather avoid.... so better to keep logic and a rational mind out of the equation.

chellekitty -> RE: No limits - and what it really means (10/18/2007 7:07:59 AM)
logic and a rational mind on these boards? didn't you see the "logic and rational mind check" when you entered the site? or have ya'll been carrying those heavy things around this whole time?

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