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Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 8:54:41 PM   
DarkDaddyZ


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Status: offline 		This afternoon a female who identifies as submissive initiated an e-mail to me saying that she likes my profile and posts via the boards.  As we exchanged a couple of e-mails she asked me if I knew her "protector" and mentioned him by name.  My reply was what is he protecting you from.  Her response back was she was surprised by my question since I have so much experience in the lifestyle.  I replied back and probably was a little smart with my comments including all my years in the lifestyle hasn't taught me about protection, I teach, learn, dominate and own.

She replied that I was clueless. 

So, am I clueless because I don't understand the protector label especially via online? Help me understand what a protector does in lifestyle relationships and is a protector only a dominant.

Lastly as I asked this person, what does a protector protect you from?

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 8:58:09 PM   
bottombob


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Status: offline 		not sure, i was thinking of pocket protecters, or a guard, i'm cornfusednow

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 8:58:14 PM   
SmokingGun82


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Status: offline 		Who knows. There's really nothing more amusing than someone's profile reading "If you bother me, you'll deal with LordMasterKingCockmonster the Seventh!"

I've always been curious what the wrath of LMKC the Seventh would entail... perhaps this thread will be enlightening.


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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:00:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkDaddyZ
My reply was what is he protecting you from

Her own stupid decisions?  Not sure.  I don't know who she was.  I will just say that it has been my experience that when someone on these boards desires or requires a "protector," they really aren't all that stable or sure of what they want.  The age old question that's been posed here is:  If she isn't mentally capable and prepared to choose the right dominant, how can she be capable of choosing the right "protector?"  A protector who really is more of a mentor and looking out for her best interests.  The general advice is to eliminate the "middle man" protector position and go about trying to find a partner oneself.  Not trying to insult anyone's choices, that just seems to be the general vibe from most who reply..............luci 


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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:03:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I always get the impression that someone who has a protector wants everyone to know that they are wanted. They're not single...they're "protected"...but what do I know?

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:05:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: spanklette

I always get the impression that someone who has a protector wants everyone to know that they are wanted. They're not single...they're "protected"...but what do I know?

Wanted by the protector?

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:07:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		The only place I've ever seen people have protectors is in rp games.  It defies logic to have a conversation without someone about meeting and having a real relationship and real sex and having some third unknown person involved.  That's not to say that having friends to run something by if you're unsure isn't a good thing, it is.  Actually making someone deal with a third person is bizarre and insulting in my opinion.

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:08:41 PM   
Gothbytch


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Status: offline 		in my opinion,if you need protection on the internet,you have no buisiness being ON the internet....get up slowly and walk away from your computer,now! lol

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:09:33 PM   
thegirlincharge


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Status: offline 		In reality he "protects" her from feeling alone as she sits alone on her computer.
Most likely in her (and his) mind he is "protecting" her from all those awful wannabees that are there to take advatage of her pure innocence. He, of course, not being one of those.

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:11:39 PM   
texancutie


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Status: offline 		I can see having a friend, kind of mentor you in some things, such as weeding through all the BS online.  But I have no idea what an online protector can do for someone.  What is even more laughable is when someone in a chatroom states they have a protector in the rooms.  Are they afraid someone is going to jump through their computer screen or what?  Maybe call them a nasty name?  There is always the block button or iggy button.  Though it is sometimes more fun to take care of the idiots yourself rather than blocking and iggying.  

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:12:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I'm enjoying the replies.  But what about in a situation where a grrl or guy meets a grrl or guy at a party and they become friends.  Eventually the one that's more active in the local community (meaning been to parties now and again) says, Let me be your protector.....

Does this happen (I believe it does), is a "protector" needed then?

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:13:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've heard the term before as well. Generally, I believe, it refers to an uncollared submissive who is 'under the protection' of a dom/domme who is not their owner/master/etc. A dom or domme will take these uncollared ones under the 'protection'... Meaning they are in their 'safe' care - if they attend parties or such, the 'protector' makes sure any advances are genuine and the submissive is indeed interested and I would imagine 'online' they would fulfill the same role.

It's one of those things that I can't say I understand, however, I have known some uncollared girls who felt it necessary to have a protector to help weed out the trolls (I've not witnessed this online, only in real life).


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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:14:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mystictryst

I've heard the term before as well. Generally, I believe, it refers to an uncollared submissive. A dom or domme will take these uncollared ones under the 'protection'... Meaning they are in their 'safe' care - if they attend parties or such, the 'protector' makes sure any advances are genuine and the submissive is indeed interested and I would imagine 'online' they would fulfill the same role.

It's one of those things that I can't say I understand, however, I have known some uncollared girls who felt it necessary to have a protector to help weed out the trolls (I've not witnessed this online, only in real life).



Do some of these Doms or Dommes really protect or is it a status symbol?

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:15:51 PM   
spanklette


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quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkDaddyZ

Wanted by the protector?


Just wanted in general...otherwise, who would they need protecting from? And, you could also consider it a popularity contest...wasn't the first thing she asked you was if you knew him?
 
I can only speculate at motives for having a protector on the internet...mine is up in the right hand corner of my screen watching with a careful eye. If I need help from the internet boogey man, I just click my protector and they magically disappear. There's always the power button too!

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:18:20 PM   
DarkDaddyZ


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quote:

ORIGINAL: spanklette

quote:

ORIGINAL: DarkDaddyZ

Wanted by the protector?


Just wanted in general...otherwise, who would they need protecting from? And, you could also consider it a popularity contest...wasn't the first thing she asked you was if you knew him?

 
Ah!

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I can only speculate at motives for having a protector on the internet...mine is up in the right hand corner of my screen watching with a careful eye. If I need help from the internet boogey man, I just click my protector and they magically disappear. There's always the power button too!


 Now That's funny!

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:20:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		I suspect that she was talking about someone proclaiming themselves to be a Dom Of Protective Essence. 
These are an offshoot of the 1,000 year old 'Ye Olde Righte Guarde' tradition.

And some days those D.O.P.E.s appear to be everywhere.

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:21:32 PM   
LadyHibiscus


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quote:

ORIGINAL: mystictryst

I've heard the term before as well. Generally, I believe, it refers to an uncollared submissive who is 'under the protection' of a dom/domme who is not their owner/master/etc. A dom or domme will take these uncollared ones under the 'protection'... Meaning they are in their 'safe' care - if they attend parties or such, the 'protector' makes sure any advances are genuine and the submissive is indeed interested and I would imagine 'online' they would fulfill the same role.

It's one of those things that I can't say I understand, however, I have known some uncollared girls who felt it necessary to have a protector to help weed out the trolls (I've not witnessed this online, only in real life).



I have done  this IRL, and it is a for real thing, not a 'status symbol'.  It's not necessarily that I have to be anyone's bodyguard, but I do guide them through scene negotiation, make introductions, act as the safe call, and generally give them the feeling of security that they are not alone out there.  No clue what I would be doing for someone online, IMO if you are grown up enough for the scene, you can handle the delete and block functions on your own.

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:28:16 PM   
SteelofUtah


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Status: offline 		DDZ,

I get your point but I also understand the background of "Protection" I knew and talked with Suzette Trouten (Suzie_Q13579) a Victim of John Edward Robinson AKA Slavemaster. We weren't great friends and only talked a handful of times on mIRC but I remember well that she was always in a fantasy world about things.

Some guys online are smooth talkers and some girl buy thier bullshit like it's oxygen and they're underwater.

I don't know this girls personal reason but I know that in the 90's it was a Person (Usually Dominant) who reviewed advances from other Dominants to see if they were looking for a slave or a quick fuck or hand job.

I PERSONALLY Think they are pompas jackasses who get off on controling the lives of girls they don't care enough about to want to bwe thier own.

All of the Privledges and NONE of the responsibilities.

I would be more upset that someone called you clueless because you didn't care for the fact the felt theyt couldn't amke decisions on thier own.

I am more turned off by someone who lets someone else do thier thinking for them. It's one thing to ask someones advice on who you should date, it's another thing to stop making that decision for yourself and let someone else do it.

God am I glad I am done with all that bullshit. I went and married my slave and had a kid with her. We'll see if it was a good idea in 10 years .... I'll get back to you then.

Take care

As Always

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:29:59 PM   
texancutie


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Status: offline 		Now that was funny!!!

Dunno about real life Protectors.  Am really curious now, so will have to ask a few local friends to see if anyone they knew ever had one.  I can kind of see it maybe if you are a total newbie and nervous about meeting someone, and bringing a friend as backup.  But then again, if someone you are meeting makes you that nervous, maybe you are not ready for this.  And maybe you shouldn't meet anyone that makes you that nervous either?

I can see some people may like to step into that role because they have seen some new people rush too soon into something, and it kind of snowballs out of control and turns out bad.  But I would still see that person as more of a friend watching your back, in case you are stupid.  Not as someone in a formal role or anything.

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RE: Clueless about Protectors - 10/17/2007 9:30:34 PM   
RRafe


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Status: offline 		Oh ya, the noble protector, keeping all of those other guys safely at bay. Ever hear of one HELPING another dom get in a relationship with a "protectee"?

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