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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/20/2007 5:55:25 PM   
Raechard


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Yeah.. you're right, and a general ban really wouldn't be fair to mature bikers or those who would've taken up motorcycling in a mature manner.  It would be great if we could just ban the louder pipes; I wonder if that would be fairly effective?


Someone already mentioned they weren’t legal so I guess the answer to that is no.

A general ban will never happen anyway.

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/20/2007 6:02:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Lets talk loud pipes in my case, I bought a a new 2002 Electraglide, I kept the quiet exhaust on it for 2 years and got teased about it sounding like a rice burner instead of a Harley. On long trips I was pretty silent on the big highways in traffic. I got a exhaust modification that was inbetween stock silent and drag pipes. Now I can pull that throttle back in traffic and let people now I am there, instead of being silent like in the past. The noise is behind me, it is not that loud to me. I started pulling a cycle camper two years ago, the noise of the pipes now bounce back at me off of the camper trailor when I am towing it, it was the first thing I noticed when I first towed it. If anybody would like to see my cycle camper setup, just send me a message and I will provide my photo gallery link.

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/20/2007 6:11:31 PM   
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As to Miss World, my personal version would have them all performing hardcore sexual acts for the viewing millions, preferably while having the crap beaten out of them.


See, put a show like that on the air, and all the bikers will be too busy watching TV to be out riding around annoying people.

Win-win.

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/20/2007 10:19:10 PM   
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If you are having  two or three close encounters with pedestrians every day it's your driving skills that are at fault. The proper (and legal) presumption of a licensed driver is that anyone not in a vehicle has NO road awareness at all and the drivers should adjust their driving accordingly.



Congrats.  Single most clueless and uninformed post I’ve ever seen on CM, and I’ve seen a few.  Top job!



Ouchy. I must have nicked a nerve. A little close was it?

You have quite the talent for hyperbole.

Anyway, to explain my above post we need to examine your own statement, which inspired it...

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ORIGINAL: RapierFugue

...if you rode in a city, as I do, in London, you’d see how loud pipes save an average of 2-3 peds per day.



In fairness, the clarity of your writing leaves a little to be desired (especially since you later claimed to have had a number of pedestrian collisions) - is this an admission that you have regular, multiple, daily close calls while biking or that you like to invent facts to support your opinions?

And BTW, I drive for a living, in a city, admittedly not as congested as London but with an ample supply of idiots to present a constant challenge.

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Pedestrians are responsible for their own behaviour but that does not excuse drivers from taking all and any precautions necessary to prevent collisions. Paying attention is a good start.



Thanks for the patronising, uniformed advice, but drivers and riders failing to “pay attention” anywhere around here would be dead or nicked in seconds flat.
 
If a ped decides to wander out blind, from between 2 stationary vehicles, right in front of me, then they're going to get squished.  End of story.


Guess you missed the part where I said "Pedestrians are responsible for their own behaviour" but perhaps you were distracted by the noise of your pipes.

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Heaven forefend that you might adjust to your environment, rather than your environment always having to adjust to you.
 


Heaven forfend that one might show some consideration for the thousands of other's who are adversely affected by one's choice to make more noise than a small plane, in order to transport a single person along an urban roadway.


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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/20/2007 10:42:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		Growing up in a city there is noise all the time, you tend to get used to it and tune it out when you need to. What bothers me about motorcycles is when i am driving along a highway and a pack of them zoom by at over 100 mph.  They weave in and out of cars and they present a real potential hazardous condition.  i personally don't want to see a motorcyclist turn into a blood spot right before my eyes - or have an arm or leg crash into my windshield 

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/20/2007 11:50:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		I attached some playing cards to the spokes of my Schwinn, then rode up and
down the street to feel the freedom and the wind in my hair. The little neighbor
kids started throwing rocks at me, so I took them out with a large gun. Just
goes to show, you can ride AND be a big dick all at the same time.

chia* (the pet)

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/21/2007 1:28:09 AM   
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re personality stage of Ms World.
I know what it is : its when some beautiful young woman says she wants to be a hairdresser and is in favour of World Peace so that she can ride around the world  on a Harley and give Nelson Mandela a hug on the way back.

Exactly so.
 PS: You look like Dennis Hopper.  You lucky thing.  I wish I did.

When I take my cap and bins off I look like Clod Hopper.

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/21/2007 3:00:23 AM   
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re personality stage of Ms World.
I know what it is : its when some beautiful young woman says she wants to be a hairdresser and is in favour of World Peace so that she can ride around the world  on a Harley and give Nelson Mandela a hug on the way back.

Exactly so.
 PS: You look like Dennis Hopper.  You lucky thing.  I wish I did.

When I take my cap and bins off I look like Clod Hopper.


But you can't ride around London on a Harley seeks, the roads are too small, you have to do a three point turn to go round a corner. The only country in Europe you can enjoy a Harley are those long straight Roman roads in France. In European cities if you need a nostalgia fix you need that old urban roadster (newly updated),  Triumph Bonneville. You can then thunder down to Brighton and kick a few mod's heads in and stamp on their Lambrettas. I suppose you could go in for a good old BMW and seduce the phraulines in Berlin as an alternative.

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/21/2007 4:07:37 AM   
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I attached some playing cards to the spokes of my Schwinn, then rode up and
down the street to feel the freedom and the wind in my hair. The little neighbor
kids started throwing rocks at me, so I took them out with a large gun. Just
goes to show, you can ride AND be a big dick all at the same time.
chia* (the pet)


That made me laugh.

There used to be these things called ‘Spokey Dokies’. They clipped onto the spokes of your wheels and slid up and down them, making a racket as you went about cycling. Some even glowed in the dark. You got sick of the noise they made after about five minutes use but you couldn’t be bothered to take them all off again so you was stuck with it.


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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/21/2007 4:51:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		To the OP, for what it is worth, I live on a busy street. Replacement windows and enclosing the porch are en progress.  When this road was the alternative route is was so wacked!

The semi rigs are bad. The noise and grime are bad.  So in 20 years- the traffic could be as it is per the alternative route.

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/21/2007 5:37:08 AM   
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There's too many things out there I need to deal with before worrying about the immaturity of some of those who ride motorcycles fitted to be excessively loud


You live in a college dorm ? I've been to dorms before (put 2 kids through college) and generally the noise levels inside the building far outstripped anything you could hear outside.
 
Could the gunning of the bike be pay back for those late night dorm parties that woke that particular rider up?
 
As to the immaturity comment; wishing folks dead because they annoy you is so very mature isn't it?

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/21/2007 5:38:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: chiaThePet

I attached some playing cards to the spokes of my Schwinn, then rode up and
down the street to feel the freedom and the wind in my hair. The little neighbor
kids started throwing rocks at me, so I took them out with a large gun. Just
goes to show, you can ride AND be a big dick all at the same time.

chia* (the pet)



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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/21/2007 8:13:37 AM   
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ORIGINAL: seeksfemslave
re personality stage of Ms World.
I know what it is : its when some beautiful young woman says she wants to be a hairdresser and is in favour of World Peace so that she can ride around the world  on a Harley and give Nelson Mandela a hug on the way back.

Exactly so.
 PS: You look like Dennis Hopper.  You lucky thing.  I wish I did.

When I take my cap and bins off I look like Clod Hopper.

But you can't ride around London on a Harley seeks, the roads are too small, you have to do a three point turn to go round a corner.

This should cause steam to come out of a few ears, I wouldn't give you tuppence for a Harley lol. Seeks pulls his crash helmet on tight!

Harleys are a  triumph of brilliant media presentation and nostalgia over of function.
Just returned from a 90 mph thrash on the M6 spoiled only by too much traffic and wind turbulence from the "windshield"
Touched 100mph for a short burst to quickly clear a slow moving block of cars.
The real skill in biking is getting round bends fast, I'm not so hot there lol

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/21/2007 12:34:47 PM   
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There's too many things out there I need to deal with before worrying about the immaturity of some of those who ride motorcycles fitted to be excessively loud


You live in a college dorm ? I've been to dorms before (put 2 kids through college) and generally the noise levels inside the building far outstripped anything you could hear outside.


I think your kids went to a different college.  At 2 AM, it's dead silent here.

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ORIGINAL: Twicehappy2x
Could the gunning of the bike be pay back for those late night dorm parties that woke that particular rider up?


Erm.. no?  Since there's no one here besides students- no nearby houses- and.. you know.. we don't have any..?

This is an Engineer's dorm.  We're not party animals.  We study a lot.
 
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ORIGINAL: Twicehappy2x
As to the immaturity comment; wishing folks dead because they annoy you is so very mature isn't it?


Wanting to see a malicious person suffer?  No, it's quite mature; growing up has only led me to further hate such people.  Those who go out of their way to make life harder for others- that's just disgusting.

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Why are you trying to justify this person's actions?

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/21/2007 3:07:05 PM   
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This should cause steam to come out of a few ears, I wouldn't give you tuppence for a Harley lol..

Well thats a relief CM posters are more interested in kicking arse or having their arse kicked.
Come on of Harley lovers where are you ?
Whats so good about posing with your arms and legs spread....unless you are all subs of course lol

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/21/2007 6:02:42 PM   
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Come on of Harley lovers where are you ?
Whats so good about posing with your arms and legs spread....unless you are all subs of course lol


Perhaps they find your comment simply not worth their time........
 
Seeing as how the weather is so nice this weekend they are probably out riding.

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/21/2007 6:07:36 PM   
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Status: offline 		Please don't take this thread so personally, Twice.  I read the post where you talked about your past and I get that you have a strong affliation with bikers in general.  This post is about rude individuals annoying others, who happen to use a loud motorcycle to do so, not against bikers in general by any means.

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/21/2007 6:38:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've got to agree with Curiouslord here, it would be easy for this to turn into a biker bashing thread.  I know a fist full of great bikers, who are very active in their community, and are genuinely interested in making the world a better place. In contrast though, these are not the guys blasting through an apartment complex parking lot at 2 am. One thing about bikes and I guess people in general is that the more responsibly a person is acting the less you see them.

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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/22/2007 1:20:35 AM   
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Come on of Harley lovers where are you ?
Whats so good about posing with your arms and legs spread....unless you are all subs of course lol


Perhaps they find your comment simply not worth their time........
 
Seeing as how the weather is so nice this weekend they are probably out riding.


You mean Harley riders are wuss's that have to wait for nice weather to ride?


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RE: Loud Motorcycles - 10/22/2007 1:48:24 AM   
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Please don't take this thread so personally, Twice. 
This post is about rude individuals annoying others, who happen to use a loud motorcycle to do so, not against bikers in general by any means.


Curious: that side of the thread is achieved. We all know that many bikers are inconsiderate and loud pipes  are a nuisance.
Elements who behave selfishly are present in all interest  groups therefore the thrust of the thread  is not "biker bashing". No argument really.

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