RE: you think you are what again?!?

Collarspace Discussion Forums

Home Login Search

RE: you think you are what again?!?

View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Logged in as: Guest

All Forums >> [Community Discussions] >> General BDSM Discussion >> RE: you think you are what again?!?

Page: << < prev 2 3 4 5 [6]

Message

<< Older Topic Newer Topic >>

RE: you think you are what again?!? - 10/26/2007 8:09:26 PM

Rover

Posts: 2634
Joined: 6/28/2004
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster

Then paint me a more conservative flavor.

There's nothing wrong with being relatively conservative. I'm quite so myself. Though I'm more than willing to observe the more edgy activities that people engage in, as I find them fascinating. It's kind of like having a live version of National Geographic.

quote:

I still see no harm in holding or expressing an opinion of any flavor.

Perhaps you don't, but others do. Share your opinion with a group of Marines that they're cowardly baby killers, and despite your right to that opinion, it may have some undesirable consequences. Tell your local football club (yeah, the Australian version) that you think they're all a bunch of wooses and girlie men, and it's not likely that they will celebrate your opinion and the freedom to express it without impaling you on the nearest signpost and dancing around your twitching body (while consuming vast quantities of beer, no doubt).

Point is, while you have the right to say things that others consider offensive, there is often a price to be paid for that right. Say whatever your heart desires, and live with the consequences.

quote:

I do believe when it comes to that, that SSC is priori uno - and so long as they limitations and safety concerns are both understood and respected, that anything pretty much is fine. I would say, in reflection, that it is more the question of whether those limits and concerns are being respected or not that causes me to question.

I think that's a reasonable interpretation. Though SSC is not a universally accepted concept in the BDSM world. Even Slave David Stein (often credited with having coined the phrase, though he says it was a collaborative effort) is not so pleased with SSC these days. He, like others, feels that there are those misinterpreting it as if there is some list of activities that are SSC, and those that are not SSC (rather than recognizing that what is SSC is relative to the individual).

quote:

Twistedkytten described a situation where the dominant (used loosely) involved demonstrated absolutely no concern for her safety or the respect of the physical limits of the body, nor of her mind.

In a different Gorean thread, for example, a slave expressed that her master enjoyed having her cut herself, which I supported since it was evident that it was SSC and that went for her heart and mind as well as her body in his use and demands of her.

I try not to put myself in the place of being the SSC judge and jury for others. Particularly with the limited information available over the internet.

John

< Message edited by Rover -- 10/26/2007 8:11:15 PM >

_____________________________

"Man's mind stretched to a new idea never goes back to its original dimensions."

Sri da Avabhas

(in reply to SixFootMaster)

Profile

Post #: 101

RE: you think you are what again?!? - 10/26/2007 8:30:24 PM

SixFootMaster

Posts: 829
Joined: 9/27/2007
Status: offline

I would define, for myself, SSC as respecting the innate physical, emotional, and mental limits of the people involved - that is, nothing that results in a consequence undesired by the participants. Some people love having physical scars, some need to be broken down emotionally and then built back up again. It is, as you say, entirely relative. Differnt people possess different limitations - and I'm not talking about "limits" in the sense of the limits people often list, but the actual limits of their being itself. After all, a body, a heart, a mind, exists to to wring every last drop of life from in the time we have, I don't think you need to forgo something you desire because it has the potential for harm, so long as it's approached in a manner that puts the results within the parameters all participants are willing to accept.

Edited to add: not

< Message edited by SixFootMaster -- 10/26/2007 8:32:09 PM >

_____________________________

How-so oft fresh injurious deed
Doth turn Janus' petulant gaze
'pon the rocks and storm rift sea
And littered wood of broken days
disregard for toil shown
no ground broken, no seed sewn.

(in reply to Rover)

Profile

Post #: 102

RE: you think you are what again?!? - 10/26/2007 9:04:02 PM

Rover

Posts: 2634
Joined: 6/28/2004
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster

Differnt people possess different limitations - and I'm not talking about "limits" in the sense of the limits people often list, but the actual limits of their being itself. After all, a body, a heart, a mind, exists to to wring every last drop of life from in the time we have, I don't think you need to forgo something you desire because it has the potential for harm, so long as it's approached in a manner that puts the results within the parameters all participants are willing to accept.

It's always been a pet peeve of mine that so much time is devoted to limits, particularly as they relate to scening, and so little time devoted to people's limitations. It's completely out of balance with the time spent scening, and the time spent living life. And disproportionate in the impact each has on people's lives.

I'm not so fond of the romanticism associated with the body, heart, mind and wringing every last drop of life, but that's just me. But the rest of it seems right on the mark.

John

_____________________________

"Man's mind stretched to a new idea never goes back to its original dimensions."

Sri da Avabhas

(in reply to SixFootMaster)

Profile

Post #: 103

RE: you think you are what again?!? - 10/26/2007 9:20:26 PM

hermione83

Posts: 393
Joined: 8/1/2007
Status: offline

quote:

You might as well drop the slave and own a princess, so you can put her up on a pedestal and give her daily manicures and pedicures.

Hey, don't tease me, what site do I go to to find that? *grin*

(in reply to Rover)

Profile

Post #: 104

RE: you think you are what again?!? - 10/26/2007 9:27:11 PM

RRafe

Posts: 2060
Joined: 8/29/2007
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Rover

quote:

ORIGINAL: SixFootMaster

Differnt people possess different limitations - and I'm not talking about "limits" in the sense of the limits people often list, but the actual limits of their being itself. After all, a body, a heart, a mind, exists to to wring every last drop of life from in the time we have, I don't think you need to forgo something you desire because it has the potential for harm, so long as it's approached in a manner that puts the results within the parameters all participants are willing to accept.

It's always been a pet peeve of mine that so much time is devoted to limits, particularly as they relate to scening, and so little time devoted to people's limitations. It's completely out of balance with the time spent scening, and the time spent living life. And disproportionate in the impact each has on people's lives.

I'm not so fond of the romanticism associated with the body, heart, mind and wringing every last drop of life, but that's just me. But the rest of it seems right on the mark.

John

The most thrilling idea I find about a woman is not her sex-but what we can create together-beyond that. That's what keeps me going-not just the idea of a few transient nerve tingles.

_____________________________

I seem to be some wierd combination of Ren and Stimpy

(in reply to Rover)

Profile

Post #: 105