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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: bigjohnson

The daughter analogy was not the best, considering this was involving a political demonstration where the young man was clearly out of hand. You can argue about this all day long if you like and no one will be happy with what comes at the end of the day.

What would you have done if you were giving a speech and someone started acting the way he did?

If his actions rise to the status of Crimes, then by all means he should be arrested.

So, we're back to my question: Exactly what crime was committed by the asshole? And whom was the complainant?

You cannot be resisting an arrest, without, you know, being arrested FOR SOMETHING.

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ORIGINAL: laurell3

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ORIGINAL: farglebargle

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ORIGINAL: bigjohnson

The daughter analogy was not the best, considering this was involving a political demonstration where the young man was clearly out of hand. You can argue about this all day long if you like and no one will be happy with what comes at the end of the day.

What would you have done if you were giving a speech and someone started acting the way he did?

If his actions rise to the status of Crimes, then by all means he should be arrested.

So, we're back to my question: Exactly what crime was committed by the asshole? And whom was the complainant?

You cannot be resisting an arrest, without, you know, being arrested FOR SOMETHING.

Disturbing the peace and similar statutes are a reasonable person standard. That is if a reasonable person under similar circumstances would feel that their peace was disturbed. They dont necessarily require a complaint, in fact, post OJ many jurisdictions did away with a the requirement for a private signing of complaints. So yes, behaving very badly in public is grounds for an arrest without a private complaint or reporting party.

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ORIGINAL: luckydog1

But there are laws about being an asshole on others private property. It s a locational thing. There are laws about depriving others of thier rights. The PA was cut, the guy kept screaming, and refused to sit down and let the next person speak. He was ejected. He physically and verbally resisted. He was placed under arrest. he resisted further and got tazed. The students got to continue with the education they were spending thier time and money on.

In this case, properly trained Officers did the right thing. At least according to the law, the actuall law, not the make believe one some people use.

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ORIGINAL: bigjohnson

Fargle...I want to tase you.

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ORIGINAL: bigjohnson

Fargle...you are the kind of person that everyone hates to be in a conversation with because you always have to try and make a point even if it is ludicrous. Someone had to call in security otherwise they would never have gone in there to apprehend him. Did you notice how when the officers attempted to escort him out of the hall he tried to stay. They are just doing their job, just like I am sure you do yours every day.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

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ORIGINAL: bigjohnson

Fargle...I want to tase you.

Johnson, don't do that, he'll use all CAPS on you.

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado
Mmmmm, sorry, but... no.  You are describing security guards, and calling them /police/LEOs.  Many campuses have both.
Please feel free to provide a link supporting your assertion that FDLE is not the agency overseeing university police in Florida
http://www.fdle.state.fl.us/cjst/Publications/AgencyAddresses/State%20Agencies%20Directory.pdf

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Police Department Authority

The University of California Police Department's police officers are sworn peace officers. They

derive their peace officer status from Section 830.2 (b) of the California Penal Code. By

authority of Section 92600 of the Education Code of the State of California and the Board of the

Regents of the University of California, these peace officers are responsible for providing police

services to the University of California. They enforce all laws on property owned, operated, or

controlled by the Board of Regents and provide the full range of police services. The officers

are graduates of California Peace Officers Standards and Training (POST) certified training

academies and continually undergo training to maintain their state certification and professional

skills.

The UCSF Police Department has demonstrated excellence to law enforcement by living up to

a body of standards to become accredited by the Commission on Accreditation for Law

Enforcement Agencies, Inc.

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado

Actually, the 2006 revised code says the same thing. Whether you agree or not, campus police are sworn LEOs (under the authority of the BOR), and security is security, just like Florida and elsewhere.

http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=67101610313+11+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve



Keep up the fantastic work.

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  830.2.  The following persons are peace officers whose authority
extends to any place in the state:

... (b) A member of the University of California Police Department
appointed pursuant to Section 92600 of the Education Code, provided
that the primary duty of the peace officer shall be the enforcement
of the law within the area specified in Section 92600 of the
Education Code.
(c) A member of the California State University Police Departments
appointed pursuant to Section 89560 of the Education Code, provided
that the primary duty of the peace officer shall be the enforcement
of the law within the area specified in Section 89560 of the
Education Code.

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89560.  The trustees may appoint one or more persons to constitute a
police department for the headquarters and for each campus of the
California State University.  Persons employed and compensated as
members of a California State University police department, when so
appointed and duly sworn, are peace officers.  However, such peace
officers shall not exercise their powers or authority except (a) at
the headquarters or upon any campus of the California State
University and in an area within one mile of the exterior boundaries
of each campus or the headquarters, and in or about other grounds or
properties owned, operated, controlled, or administered by the
California State University, or by trustees or the state on behalf of
the California State University, and (b) as provided in Section
830.2 of the Penal Code.



89561.  Every member of a California State University police
department shall be supplied with, and authorized to wear, a badge
bearing the words "California State University Police."

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92600.  The Regents of the University of California are authorized
and empowered to appoint one or more persons to be members of the
University of California police department as such police department
is constituted on September 19, 1947, or may thereafter be
constituted.  Persons employed and compensated as members of said
police department, when so appointed and duly sworn, are peace
officers; provided, that such officers shall not exercise their
powers or authority except (a) upon the campuses of the University of
California and an area within one mile of the exterior boundaries of
each thereof, (b) in or about other grounds or properties owned,
operated, controlled or administered by the Regents of the University
of California, and (c) as provided in Section 830.2 of the Penal
Code.


92601.  Every member of the University of California police
department shall be supplied with, and authorized to wear, a badge
bearing the words "University of California Police."

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ORIGINAL: Alumbrado
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