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chellekitty -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 12:32:37 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy Look forward to my kids kicking ass against your kids....Not everyone can be a curve wrecker. omg they let you reproduce?? didn't eating all those lead paint chips as a teenager sterilize you? so if they are not biologically yours....who was that bitch reproducing with?

kitttty -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 12:39:13 PM)
quote: Look forward to my kids kicking ass against your kids....Not everyone can be a curve wrecker. Curve wrecker? It is unlikely that your children will excel over mine in terms of pure academics. Somehow, inexplicaby, I am very book smart but not smart in any other way. quote: ..do you understand that people are more concerned that you need to work on YOU to make good decisions for YOU? No. I dont. The issues people seem to be having are that they think my distinction between sexual activities appropriate while married vs. sexual activities appropriate while not married is an absurd distinction. To some people this means that I believe that marriage will solve some relationship problems. They also seem to dislike my Dom for putting pictures up, telling me he put them up and then taking them down when I expressed adamant anger because he said he would punish me (although I assume it would have been fine to punish me for no reason at all, which he also does). I feel a tinge of insecurity when a relationship is not officialized and binding. I have no intention of changing my attitude on that matter. My problem is that I fear lack of commitment and this leads me to having other trust issues which prevents me from enjoying some D/s acts. I see no sensible reason for trying to make myself enjoy D/s anything outside of a relationship which gives me the level of commitment and security I want.

laurell3 -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 12:46:18 PM)
Haha I doubt it's actually correct to assume domiguy is anything other than very intelligent, albeit sarcastic and hilarious.

chellekitty -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 12:52:04 PM)
whoops, was it bad to joke with the adults in front of the kid?

Phoenixandnika -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 12:53:31 PM)
(Please keep in mind I have only read page one of responses) kitty, Awhile back, my owner (Phoenix) posted something in our private journal and I shared it with a mutual friend of ours. When he found out he discussed it with me, he told me it bothered him alot because those were his private thoughts. That sharing them with me is one thing but me sharing them with others was a violation of our trust. I understood his point and respect his request not because he is my owner but because I respect him as person and his right to privacy. We have also taken pictures that are very intimate that we have agreed will NEVER been shared they are for our enjoyment only. Yes, I know the risks of the angry ex passing them around but for us it is about trust. I hope your able to talk with your owner and that he listens truly listens to your reasons and that in the end it works out. So yes, it would be a limit to violate my trust and post intimate pictures or thoughts publicly without talking to me first. Blessed Be, Nika

laurell3 -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 1:01:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kitttty quote: Look forward to my kids kicking ass against your kids....Not everyone can be a curve wrecker. Curve wrecker? It is unlikely that your children will excel over mine in terms of pure academics. Somehow, inexplicaby, I am very book smart but not smart in any other way. quote: ..do you understand that people are more concerned that you need to work on YOU to make good decisions for YOU? No. I dont. The issues people seem to be having are that they think my distinction between sexual activities appropriate while married vs. sexual activities appropriate while not married is an absurd distinction. To some people this means that I believe that marriage will solve some relationship problems. They also seem to dislike my Dom for putting pictures up, telling me he put them up and then taking them down when I expressed adamant anger because he said he would punish me (although I assume it would have been fine to punish me for no reason at all, which he also does). I feel a tinge of insecurity when a relationship is not officialized and binding. I have no intention of changing my attitude on that matter. My problem is that I fear lack of commitment and this leads me to having other trust issues which prevents me from enjoying some D/s acts. I see no sensible reason for trying to make myself enjoy D/s anything outside of a relationship which gives me the level of commitment and security I want. Look it's honestly too much effort at this point to go to your prior posts and read all the things you've said about yourself that indicate your problem is much more than a "tinge of insecurity" and fear of lack of commitment. This is a prior quote by you: "I am passive and completely dysfunctional without my Master. I was throwing my life away for no reason before him" and there are others wherein you admit to total insecurity without him, including this thread. That equates to no sense of self. You can't change the story now. This is my point. Your views on marriage, commitment or lack thereof are not relevant to this point and many of the posters were making the same point. As intelligent as you may think you are, you are either completely lacking in common sense or being purposefully evasive. Everyone has problems, we seek help for them, we don't hide in some romantic fairytale and wait for them to pass. Deal with you. Don't put it on him, it's likely to only cause the failure of your relationship. I'm done....again, good luck to you. l

DCWoody -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 1:03:48 PM)
Kitttty, when I read the thing about the blog being replaced and threats of punishment, I assumed it was a jokey thing on his part....the fact that the punishment turned out to be not really a punishment, makes me think this is pretty much right. He sounds good to me, and I don't think either he or you deserve all the stick you're getting. If you do not trust him absolutely, then you shouldn't be in TPE....even if it's obviously not actually TPE, but good luck, I hope it all works out for you.

Prinsexx -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 1:55:55 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kitttty I do not believe he is trying to exploit me on purpose. I am tempted to write this in huge letters but I won't. it won't make you see sense Kittty in whatever type face or type style i use. it doesn't matter wether there is a purpose (ie intentional) or not (ie unintentional) exploitation of you. IT IS STILL EXPLOITATION. Why oh why are images of your body (face disguised) being put out onto tje internet? Downloaded where, to whom? Do YOU know? I mean i jsut don't DOWNLOAD pics....there's more to it than this and you know it and i believe you are just grasping at straws asking the collarme community here to condone what HE IS DOING. i for one am not. But give me a jontly negatotiated reason why he is doing it and i might be able to see some saniy and sesibility here. even then, if you were to post here in a few days and say the reaosn why he posted my images were because....and because and because to be quite fair that would bore me as I am not personally interested in what your master is doing in his misunderstanding of what service is. The only reason i am mailing to you here is because I believe it is intentional exploitation of you aimed at getting what he wants and whatever that is, is causing you anxiety because YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT HE IS USING THEM FOR. BDSM is not an excuse for unethical behaviour. Far, far from it. Sincerely and in sisterhood; Prinsexx

kitttty -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 2:02:42 PM)
quote: Everyone has problems, we seek help for them, we don't hide in some romantic fairytale and wait for them to pass. How am I waiting? I see a psychiatrist and the shrink doesn't object to the Master. The Master likewise does not object to me seeing the shrink. quote: As intelligent as you may think you are, you are either completely lacking in common sense or being purposefully evasive. Why would I answer your questions? Not interested. And I am as 'intelligent' as the standardized tests of the world tell me I am, which is very- but Im one of those people that only tests well and does not have 'common sense'. The Master says that I have strong intellectual talents but that I also lack the ability to navigate the world on my own. So he helps me by telling me what to do and often helping me with the goals he gives me. How is my relationship a fairy tale? I have a real relationship with a real person that makes good decisions for me and has furthered my education, financial stability, career structure etc. Why exactly do I need to find my sense of 'self' when I am quite happy and productive in the relationship I am in now? I was a passive dysfunctional person without the Master. It's true. But I am not without him, so what is the problem? quote: If you do not trust him absolutely, then you shouldn't be in TPE....even if it's obviously not actually TPE, but good luck, I hope it all works out for you. It's a great sin Ive commited. I only have TPE with Jesus because you can only trust God Almighty 100%. That comment is for the board. The Master is quite funny and I admit when I saw the pic of the girl in ballet slippers getting caned I giggled a little. Sometimes I will try to be in serious submissive state and he will be so fucking funny and have to say "you're allowed to laugh you know?" I love him so and I love him for loving me even though I am crazy.

susie -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 2:06:10 PM)
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Kirata -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 2:15:31 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kitttty How is my relationship a fairy tale? I have a real relationship with a real person that makes good decisions for me and has furthered my education, financial stability, career structure etc. Why exactly do I need to find my sense of 'self' when I am quite happy and productive in the relationship I am in now? That's called a "father". You can figure out the rest. K.

RaynaSub -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 2:36:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: susie [sm=ofcourse.gif] Exactly, that is why I don't waste much of my precious time posting.

Prinsexx -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 3:39:56 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy quote: ORIGINAL: kitttty ] But I dont want it to fail...ever. I believe he feels the same way and I want to marry him because he is good for me, brings out the best in me and I think he would make a good father in part because he has great parents himself (not that that is a neccesity). He does bring out the best in you....It would be cool if somehow you could incorporate the last 6 pages of this thread into your wedding vows....Along with your pictures tastefully displayed on the altar..... Please don't have children. I should have said it like this..........well said.

Prinsexx -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 3:46:39 PM)
quote: I was a passive dysfunctional person without the Master. It's true. But I am not without him, so what is the problem? The problem is in my purely personal opinion that you remain a passive dysfunctional person even with your Master. Change your psychiatrist. Change your Master. And get out of this double-bind of self-defeat. You have most of the collarme community telling you the same thing and you are still whining on and on passively not knowing what to do. SUBMISSIVE DOES NOT MEAN PASSIVE. GET A MASTER WHO WILL TEACH YOU THE DIFFERENCE. ed. to include the one and only smiley I will ever use. Even i am exhausted [sm=ofcourse.gif]

TheChauvinist -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 4:46:21 PM)
Actually, passive and submissive are synonyms of each other.

Prinsexx -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 4:49:17 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheChauvinist Actually, passive and submissive are synonyms of each other. Bollox Get a profile

TheChauvinist -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 4:53:33 PM)
Why does it bother you if I don't have a profile? Seems a little inane.

rollinonward05 -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 5:07:57 PM)
quote: How is my relationship a fairy tale? I have a real relationship with a real person that makes good decisions for me and has furthered my education, financial stability, career structure etc. Why exactly do I need to find my sense of 'self' when I am quite happy and productive in the relationship I am in now? Ok then... Why do a lot of threads in these forums begin this way. saying oh my Master did this to me, my Master did that to me. Oh please pity me, be on my side ( or so it seems) and when people give honest opinions or advice ( and yeah some can get harsh... so what) the original poster turns around and tells all how wonderful the Master is. And gets angry at the poeple she asked advice and opinions of. I know I know. Because these people need the excitement? the attention? Or need to grow up ? Just my own little rant folks. rollin

apiercedkitty -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 5:08:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: kitttty Well, it does. I can be very nice to a man that does not make a true investment in our future together but its not commitment. How can you let someone make major decisions for you if you are not sure he is going to be there to endure the consequences? For me, trust is intertwined with commitment. And commitment that is more than "I'll be there". Soooo... how can you POSSIBLY be in a TPE??? If you don't trust Him, how can you say you have a "no limits" relationship?? It's an oxymoron.

apiercedkitty -> RE: Ok. This might just be the limit. (10/27/2007 5:17:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: domiguy All I know, is that after you two finally end your relationship.....I look forward to seeing all of your pics in Hustler's "Beaver Hunt." You sure can pick'em....The reason you should not be allowed to practice law is that you probably would put more of your clients behind bars then the best prosecutor could ever imagine....Your lack of judgment is astounding... Tell me when you two split....He will post your photos within the hour. The world might be a better place if they let her practice law but didn't let her reproduce... just a thought.

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