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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 5:55:59 AM   
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In my opinion if you are part of a couple / dynamic you really should state it on your profile. Why hide it? Giving as full a picture as possible of yourself in your profile helps find people who may be compatible to you.
As Chelle says i'm not shocked', nor am i but rather im not shocked that someone is doing this, it seems to be a trend here really. What is sad is that it has become such a trend that people just roll over and accept the dishonesty and think its no big thing to be deceitful.
Why should he if he is being honest in discussion? The exact same reason you state that he should have it on his profile is the exact same reason that he may think he shouldn't. In other words not putting it on may help him begin discussion with people who are compatible but might not have tried because of that one detail.

Besides, the OP seems to have made an assumption here. For all we know, this man could be telling people in his first email that he is married.

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 5:58:16 AM   
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All i can say is grow up. Both you and i know what this is about.
If you had ever bothered to talk to me about it, maybe you would have the fuller picture. After all there are always more sides to a story than anyone gets.
Now if you'll excuse me i have better things to do than rake up the past.

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:03:54 AM   
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In my opinion if you are part of a couple / dynamic you really should state it on your profile. Why hide it? Giving as full a picture as possible of yourself in your profile helps find people who may be compatible to you.
As Chelle says i'm not shocked', nor am i but rather im not shocked that someone is doing this, it seems to be a trend here really. What is sad is that it has become such a trend that people just roll over and accept the dishonesty and think its no big thing to be deceitful.
Why should he if he is being honest in discussion? The exact same reason you state that he should have it on his profile is the exact same reason that he may think he shouldn't. In other words not putting it on may help him begin discussion with people who are compatible but might not have tried because of that one detail.
Very true. However there are those out there who would not get involved with a married man and it just wastes theirs and his time. It is only my opinion that he should be honest up front in his profile.

Besides, the OP seems to have made an assumption here. For all we know, this man could be telling people in his first email that he is married.
And for all we know he might not.


he made it clear to me that unless they specifically asked him a question like that, he would try to build a bond with the girl before telling her
If we trust that the op is being truthful then he has himself said unless asked he would not divulge the info.


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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:07:14 AM   
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This is called bait and switch when reffering to advertizing. It's a dishonest practice involving saying something is one thing-then switching it for another when a sucker is drawn in by it.

Personally-I think it's a practice that just gets the deciever a bad rep.

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:07:51 AM   
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The issue here is not lying, it's deception, and deception can be passive. Personally I wouldn't like this kind of deception, it would bother me and send up a red flag. It's just not a good way to start a possible D/s relationship, with a big whopping omission about your wife!

As you mentioned, the same women who would pass by his profile because he's married are the same ones who will likely say "thanks but no thanks" once they find out he's married anyway. So he's really just wasting his time. What I find funny is that he's probabley the type that will pound his fist and rant and rave about all these women wasting his time when it's really he who is wasting theirs!

It's all about being up front about the criteria other people use to make decisions. That's all. It makes the process easier for everyone. Don't you just hate it when you are in the store and you can't figure out which product to buy because it doesn't have the information you need on the package?

Also I don't think the same rules apply if you are simply here to engage in the community. You are not "selling" anything, you are just here to chat and make friends. If this same Dom were just hanging out on message boards who would care if he mentioned his wife or not?

I'm sure the OP isn't losing sleep over the issue. It sounds like she just wanted feedback from other people on the subject.

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:12:25 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: TheChauvinist

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

In my opinion if you are part of a couple / dynamic you really should state it on your profile. Why hide it? Giving as full a picture as possible of yourself in your profile helps find people who may be compatible to you.
As Chelle says i'm not shocked', nor am i but rather im not shocked that someone is doing this, it seems to be a trend here really. What is sad is that it has become such a trend that people just roll over and accept the dishonesty and think its no big thing to be deceitful.
Why should he if he is being honest in discussion? The exact same reason you state that he should have it on his profile is the exact same reason that he may think he shouldn't. In other words not putting it on may help him begin discussion with people who are compatible but might not have tried because of that one detail.

Besides, the OP seems to have made an assumption here. For all we know, this man could be telling people in his first email that he is married.


I agree

My Master does not mention me in his profile. Is he lying? Nope it is just something that he does not feel he needs to advertise to all and sundry. It certainly depends on what this person is using the profile for and we have no idea of the content of email exchanges or chats that he has with people that contact him. It is clear from what the OP said that he is obviously not deceiving his partner as they have a couples profile and single ones and if the OP was able to spot his profile so easily, so would the wife be able to.


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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:14:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: susie

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheChauvinist

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

In my opinion if you are part of a couple / dynamic you really should state it on your profile. Why hide it? Giving as full a picture as possible of yourself in your profile helps find people who may be compatible to you.
As Chelle says i'm not shocked', nor am i but rather im not shocked that someone is doing this, it seems to be a trend here really. What is sad is that it has become such a trend that people just roll over and accept the dishonesty and think its no big thing to be deceitful.
Why should he if he is being honest in discussion? The exact same reason you state that he should have it on his profile is the exact same reason that he may think he shouldn't. In other words not putting it on may help him begin discussion with people who are compatible but might not have tried because of that one detail.

Besides, the OP seems to have made an assumption here. For all we know, this man could be telling people in his first email that he is married.


I agree

My Master does not mention me in his profile. Is he lying? Nope it is just something that he does not feel he needs to advertise to all and sundry. It certainly depends on what this person is using the profile for and we have no idea of the content of email exchanges or chats that he has with people that contact him. It is clear from what the OP said that he is obviously not deceiving his partner as they have a couples profile and single ones and if the OP was able to spot his profile so easily, so would the wife be able to.




But hes not reffering single women to the other two profiles. he's using it to act like he's single.

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:14:53 AM   
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It is clear from what the OP said that he is obviously not deceiving his partner as they have a couples profile and single ones and if the OP was able to spot his profile so easily, so would the wife be able to.

I never thought the op was deceiving his partner. I thought this was about decieving potential slaves / subs.

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:17:47 AM   
TheChauvinist


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Very true. However there are those out there who would not get involved with a married man and it just wastes theirs and his time. It is only my opinion that he should be honest up front in his profile.
Well said.
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quote:

Besides, the OP seems to have made an assumption here. For all we know, this man could be telling people in his first email that he is married.

And for all we know he might not. 
quote:

he made it clear to me that unless they specifically asked him a question like that, he would try to build a bond with the girl before telling her

If we trust that the op is being truthful then he has himself said unless asked he would not divulge the info.
Very true but, as you said:
quote:

After all there are always more sides to a story than anyone gets.
And after reading the OP's past posts, I would say she is more then a bit biased and most likely omitting things.

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:19:01 AM   
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Welcome to the internet.  Men are posing as women, women are posing as men.  Married are posing as single and on and on and on.  

I get them on the phone and listen to how they answer questions, usually the truth will pop out quickly. 

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:26:26 AM   
susie


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ORIGINAL: RRafe

quote:

ORIGINAL: susie

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheChauvinist

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

In my opinion if you are part of a couple / dynamic you really should state it on your profile. Why hide it? Giving as full a picture as possible of yourself in your profile helps find people who may be compatible to you.
As Chelle says i'm not shocked', nor am i but rather im not shocked that someone is doing this, it seems to be a trend here really. What is sad is that it has become such a trend that people just roll over and accept the dishonesty and think its no big thing to be deceitful.
Why should he if he is being honest in discussion? The exact same reason you state that he should have it on his profile is the exact same reason that he may think he shouldn't. In other words not putting it on may help him begin discussion with people who are compatible but might not have tried because of that one detail.

Besides, the OP seems to have made an assumption here. For all we know, this man could be telling people in his first email that he is married.


I agree

My Master does not mention me in his profile. Is he lying? Nope it is just something that he does not feel he needs to advertise to all and sundry. It certainly depends on what this person is using the profile for and we have no idea of the content of email exchanges or chats that he has with people that contact him. It is clear from what the OP said that he is obviously not deceiving his partner as they have a couples profile and single ones and if the OP was able to spot his profile so easily, so would the wife be able to.




But hes not reffering single women to the other two profiles. he's using it to act like he's single.


How do you know what he is using it for. How do you know what he is telling people when he first makes contact with them. Perhaps he is using his profile to find play partners where it would not necessarily concern people if he is married or not. We have seen one side of the story and heard nothing from him regarding his motivation is all of this. Until we do everyone is making assumptions that may be incorrect.

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:34:04 AM   
RRafe


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ORIGINAL: susie

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ORIGINAL: RRafe

quote:

ORIGINAL: susie

quote:

ORIGINAL: TheChauvinist

quote:

ORIGINAL: missturbation

In my opinion if you are part of a couple / dynamic you really should state it on your profile. Why hide it? Giving as full a picture as possible of yourself in your profile helps find people who may be compatible to you.
As Chelle says i'm not shocked', nor am i but rather im not shocked that someone is doing this, it seems to be a trend here really. What is sad is that it has become such a trend that people just roll over and accept the dishonesty and think its no big thing to be deceitful.
Why should he if he is being honest in discussion? The exact same reason you state that he should have it on his profile is the exact same reason that he may think he shouldn't. In other words not putting it on may help him begin discussion with people who are compatible but might not have tried because of that one detail.

Besides, the OP seems to have made an assumption here. For all we know, this man could be telling people in his first email that he is married.


I agree

My Master does not mention me in his profile. Is he lying? Nope it is just something that he does not feel he needs to advertise to all and sundry. It certainly depends on what this person is using the profile for and we have no idea of the content of email exchanges or chats that he has with people that contact him. It is clear from what the OP said that he is obviously not deceiving his partner as they have a couples profile and single ones and if the OP was able to spot his profile so easily, so would the wife be able to.




But hes not reffering single women to the other two profiles. he's using it to act like he's single.


How do you know what he is using it for. How do you know what he is telling people when he first makes contact with them. Perhaps he is using his profile to find play partners where it would not necessarily concern people if he is married or not. We have seen one side of the story and heard nothing from him regarding his motivation is all of this. Until we do everyone is making assumptions that may be incorrect.


Well, considering the vast difficulty that poly couples have attracting as third-it simply makes sense-desperation breeds some pretty stupid tactics. Not like it's the first time I have seen this happen.

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:36:33 AM   
missturbation


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Chauvinist - Yeah i agree she may likely be ommiting things. However i can only go on how i would react to what info she has given.
For me the important things she stated were:-
He does not say he is married on his profile.
He does not unless asked tell people he is married.
 
For me personally this would be worrying and i would walk away. Not to say that everyone would react like that but it would be my personal choice.
 
The thing is that even if she is straying from the truth, omitting detail there will be someone on this site that behaves to her description. On the dramatic side maybe but if someone reading this thread comes across someone like that and any advice given here is useful to her / him then its all good.

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:38:29 AM   
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Perhaps he is using his profile to find play partners where it would not necessarily concern people if he is married or not.

If it doesn't matter why not just put it and then those who it matters to don't waste their time mailing him?

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:41:40 AM   
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Welcome to the internet.  Men are posing as women, women are posing as men.  Married are posing as single and on and on and on.  


Amen!! lol

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:43:20 AM   
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he basically said he gets more responces if he doesn't mention he is involved with someone else

Hmmm, ya think?I think he may be onto something there that others haven't thought of - pretend you're single to draw 'em in.  It's been happening since the dawn of time and I see no signs of it stopping anytime soon.  It's not your business so I'd just forget about it and focus on something I could change................luci 



lol luci....well said.

I'm sorry for being brash...but who cares?  If you don't want to have sex or a relationship with the guy, what exactly do you think you can do about it? Are you going to start playing sex police and follow the guy around?  It's a harsh reality that alot of people suck, but tis life and all the more reason to keep the good ones close.

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 6:48:01 AM   
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I recently came arcoss someones profile that I know, however the name was different and there was no mention of this Dom's wife and the pictures of the two of them were not up. I asked him if they were still together and he told me they were, but that they each have their own profile and a couple profile, and that this was his. I thought no big deal people do that all the time, but I thought it was kinda weird that nowhere did he even mention he was in any kind of a relationship. I asked him why he didnt mention her at all and he basically said he gets more responces if he doesn't mention he is involved with someone else. My Master and my slave have both told me in the past that not giving all information that is known about something is called a "half lie" and that a "half lie" is still a lie, a deception. Granted someone considering him for a Master should ask a question like "are you involved with anyone one else in any kind of relationship?," but what got to me was that he made it clear to me that unless they specifically asked him a question like that, he would try to build a bond with the girl before telling her, probably in the hopes that she would just love him as a Master and not care about the fact that he didnt tell her in the beggining. This really got to me though I thought about those whose time would be wasted building a relationship with this person the whole time him coming off like he is a single Master looking for a slave. I mean the only people who wouldnt write him if he put that he's married are the one's that will turn him down as soon as they find out he is, and he will probably I would hope get turned down even by people who would have considered it for not saying something (basically lying) from the start. I don't understand why people can't just be honest and straight forward from the beggining it would save people a lot of time. I am curious as to if others on here have come across this, done it themselves, and or what people generally think about it.

I'll be honest. I don't see that it is any of your business how he and his wife choose to portray themselves on here; or on any other site for that matter.

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 7:57:06 AM   
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He told you why he did it, he didn't get any responses when he mentioned his marriage. He isn't interested in another loving relationship, just short term beat and fucks.

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 8:07:44 AM   
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In other words not putting it on may help him begin discussion with people who are compatible but might not have tried because of that one detail.



IF those in convos with him are seeking other singles like themselves (and he's portraying himself to be so as his "lure"), then it doesn't matter how pretty a bow he puts on his little box of deception...they are *not* compatible...and he is wasting their time.

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RE: Being deceived ? - 10/27/2007 8:14:47 AM   
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I think like someone had already said. They were looking for others to play with. Kinda like a self advertising campaign to find people to bring into a Polly thing.  But in the short of it there are tons of people like this  In rt and online. SOme people are just stupid enough to go with them.  I really Distance my self from people who do not have standards or values. They create more drama in minute then most people do in a lifetime 

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