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RE: Mentally Ill submissive - 12/1/2007 12:27:05 PM

MasterKalif

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I know many on here will hate my response, but I have come to this conclusion over the years...I was not born in the US and came here in my adult life (for college). I think here many people (institutions, schools, etc) are very willing to give Meds to children even for small things like hyperactivity (which happens, they are kids after all) or lack of focus in some cases (but then which kid really, really enjoys sitting in school learning?)...I am sure if I had grown up in this country I would have been "diagnosed" as having OCD, as I did not like to be still and my mind would often wonder from the topic at hand. Yet I did not take any meds, and now later in life while I ocassionally have this focus issue, Its not a problem. I dunno I think the medicine makers/companies are too eager to sell their products and hence why now more Americans than ever before are being diagnosed with one thing or another, compared to the time of their parents and grandparents time.

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RE: Mentally Ill submissive - 12/1/2007 12:39:55 PM

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I have what is considered a severe mental illness (I suffer from borderline personality disorder) and I still see a Dom on a regular basis. I find seeing my Dom is a healthy way to release tension and anxiety in my life. I spend so much time trying to control everything because I feel so out of control that to have a night where nothing is in my control is a relief. I should point out that I see a therapist and am on medication to help me deal with mood instability, anger and compulsive behaviour associated with BPD.

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RE: Mentally Ill submissive - 12/1/2007 2:35:40 PM

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i fully agree with osocurious!!! i am one of the concerned ones to!! Ofcourse i would worry like hell on who i will trust myself to fully submit to!!! If we were to assume that everyone is capable of handling us and think they can make us submit by using methods that we have no idea of what the hell they have in there minds... Yes they will get a fight and quite frankly more then what they will bargain for. If the D wont allow the sub to have a feeling of the D and there mental condition and self discipline then they only create grounds of uncertainty for the submissive. Thank you osocurious for speaking up!!! Lets not forget here of who feels like the hunter and who feels like the prey. Cheerio to A/all

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RE: Mentally Ill submissive - 12/1/2007 3:39:33 PM

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ORIGINAL: shootingstar67

Have you ever run across a submissive who was obviously depressed or self destructive with low self regard? If so what did you do?

Have you ever been tempted to play with someone willing and attractive but obviously not very strong mentally or emotionally?

No.

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RE: Mentally Ill submissive - 12/1/2007 6:00:35 PM

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star67,

Because I do a fair amount of mentoring, I find that there is alot of depression on the path, generally it springs from not making a good connection within a reasonabnle time, or coming out of a failed relationship.

I do not consider that mentally ill, just depressed and that is actionable.

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RE: Mentally Ill submissive - 12/1/2007 10:28:16 PM

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When I was new at BDSM, one of my first subs was someone who had several serious mental illnesses. Being relatively knowledgeable about mental illness, I thought I could handle it. I was in way over my head and I got burned badly.

I think everyone comes into a relationship with some type of crap to deal with. Part of being in a relationship is accepting the bad parts along with the good, and I wonder if as Doms/Masters, we sometimes get too caught up in the excitement of training and transformation, and maybe we lose sight of the acceptance part. I do acknowledge that this was (one of) the error(s) that I made.

I would recommend that anyone who gets into a relationship with someone with a serious mental illness, needs a good support system. It's easy to lose perspective when you're caregiving, and often you put your own needs behind theirs, especially if their needs are particularly intense. Being able to take time away, to step back from the situation and reassess, getting others to care for you when you need nurturing are necessary components if the relationship is to survive. These are steps one would take when caring for anyone with a chronic illness and many of us often forget that serious mental illness is just that, a serious chronic illness, deserving of our respect and compassion, same as we would give to someone in a wheelchair or any other disabling condition.

For those posters who put down the mentally ill, take a look at this list of famous people....http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_believed_to_have_been_affected_by_bipolar_disorder

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