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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

I see  Married People on here dom subs dommes a lot of open marraiges. for me It just means drama in waiting. How do you feel about people who are lin the lifestyle who want to play out side of marraige and is it kinda of a lie to what they have  shrugs

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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

I Guess you just do not get It. SO i will put in your face with a none of the expression of artistic thinking which  I can not stand is this
IF YOU SAY SOMETHING TO SOMEONE.  A Promise, A vow, A commitment.  And you break that via Cheating via lying . via what ever then be a selfish  SOB. Now to what i wanted everyone to look at was. Sense everyone is missing the banana boat.. We all have a set of rules and ideas and concepts for relationships. it is the value and the responsibility of both or all parties involved to adhere to What is  sad about our community. It  has be come  meat market central. A fashionable statement.
To those who keep twisting the thread into my this or me that quit over assuming things and get off your ass and just keep it to the subject.  IT IS a un bias post.

People assume to much no wonder people are on prozacville.  I see a lot of this People who never take responsibility for their actions. Passing the Buck Blaming someone Else. How in the hell can you ever grow. This is about being Fair and honest some people should try it. While others  I do not think others are capable of such things. I think they are seriously Flawed 

  Here is where i see a big problem. Often times I see people who are to accepting of hurtful or bad behavior. It dose not take a rocket scientist to see the damage it does to friends family and yourself.  Take responsibility or life will back at you

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I don't know anything about the OP, only from his posts on the forums, but from what I can deduce here, some people, like the OP, have had some very hurtful experiences with a particular topic, this one for example.

dear sexyred....but I think more than the OPener does this. I have truied to post with the personal content and just get pulled down, shot down andshredded for hanging out dirty laundry yet it is very difficult to post what sounds like a cry for help, a need for in put and advice, whislt witholding the personal information.

Hi Prinsexx, I understand that totally, and I do the same thing, but my point was that the thread was going on and on without the OP seeming to understand the various other views that people were presenting. I thought I would point out to that his "chip on shoulder" was likely due to unresolved issues with this same topic and he could not or would not listen to others.

We all do this at one time or another, but I know I try vigilantly and fail sometimes, to listen to others opinions without adding my color to it. I think when I feel too closely affected by a topic, I should stay out of it, because when it strikes too close to home, as this one seems to for the OP, then nothing good comes of it, since it gets into arguments with no one seeing the other's side.

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ORIGINAL: LDRandAstarte
Open marraiges are by thier very definition open , so, how can there be any cheating, or lies?

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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

I guess that one flew of your head lol. Like  jet on rocket fuel . YOU keep trying to twist my post into me me me it is all general. When the computer button goes off so does my thoughts about what goes on here. So you can think what ever YOU want or assume what ever It is kinda like chess. which piece will i move next. You will never know. SO Keep to the topic.  Do not worry about what position I am taking other then this.  The whole thread deals with responsiblity  yep  

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I see  Married People on here dom subs dommes a lot of open marraiges. for me It just means drama in waiting. How do you feel about people who are lin the lifestyle who want to play out side of marraige and is it kinda of a lie to what they
have  shrugs

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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx
and it makes no difference that I am of the female gender...I can't say all submissives feel like this but I would hazard a guess as to suggest that having a Dom as devoted and committed to me as i felt to him would be paradise but thats simply not the dynamic is it?

1.  playing with a married person ( someone who has not told their partner)
   
2. understanding the dynamics of marriage or collar
   
3. when someone lies or has an hidden agenda with in marriage
   
4. if you are in a closed marriage how you see others who do

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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx

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ORIGINAL: sexyred1

I don't know anything about the OP, only from his posts on the forums, but from what I can deduce here, some people, like the OP, have had some very hurtful experiences with a particular topic, this one for example.

dear sexyred....but I think more than the OPener does this. I have truied to post with the personal content and just get pulled down, shot down andshredded for hanging out dirty laundry yet it is very difficult to post what sounds like a cry for help, a need for in put and advice, whislt witholding the personal information.

Hi Prinsexx, I understand that totally, and I do the same thing, but my point was that the thread was going on and on without the OP seeming to understand the various other views that people were presenting. I thought I would point out to that his "chip on shoulder" was likely due to unresolved issues with this same topic and he could not or would not listen to others.

We all do this at one time or another, but I know I try vigilantly and fail sometimes, to listen to others opinions without adding my color to it. I think when I feel too closely affected by a topic, I should stay out of it, because when it strikes too close to home, as this one seems to for the OP, then nothing good comes of it, since it gets into arguments with no one seeing the other's side.

But amother truth, for me, is that I use these forums to mostly post about my hurt and unresolved issues, for which, rightly or wongly, out of lack of insight, or for not taking a good dose of my own medicine, I have no immediate answer. Usually these type of issues are during a reactive mode in me, when I hurt, or am on a come down or just spinning out. I am sure i am not alone in admitting that happens.
But then of course, it's a self-defeating process posting, because the last frame of mind I am in is an open one and so I am least likely to want to listen to others posting and most of all defensive about apparent attacks.
Also I really feel it's different, well of course it is, posting from a submissive perspective rather than from a dominant one. And I believe I do both, as a switch, and can honestly hand on heart feel I understand both modes if you like.
For me, and again this is only for me and in my personal opinion, I feel more as a submissive emotionally. I get opened up. For me the only way to get out of subspace and grounded whoops here comes reality again, is to re-asseble the pieces of my limits, my thresholds, my boundaries and indeeed at times my self. That's how i read Latexbabes posts....sometimes shooting from the hip, not pre-meditated, and definitely posed as general rather than personal. and this is misinterpreted as having a chip.
Oh look, what I am trying to say is that time passes for me and i grow older each secomd and my Dom said to me last night...well if you can't handle it just be a Domme.......because I, as the submissive project onto him what I am feeling and that is i want commitment and promises kept and a future and to be exclusive and for him to love me as much as I love him and so on into romantic ad infifuckinnitum........but that's just how it is being a submissive and it makes no difference that I am of the female gender...I can't say all submissives feel like this but I would hazard a guess as to suggest that having a Dom as devoted and committed to me as i felt to him would be paradise but thats simply not the dynamic is it?

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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

you people would never make great defectives lol    first part is a observation to here the second is the question   (It has nothing to do with me it is based on the the reflection of different threads that has been posted) 

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How do you feel about people who are lin the lifestyle who want to play out side of marraige and is it kinda of a lie to what they have  shrugs 

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the Insitution to marriage means many things. It is a label. But everyones Labeling system is different  shrugs . People when they first get married have a mind set. 
not everyone wants an open marriage and may just be going along with it to please their partner.   

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         What i wanted everyone to voice on was

1.  playing with a married person ( someone who has not told their partner)

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  understanding the dynamics of marriage or collar

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if you are in a closed marriage how you see others who do

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it was just that simple you should have stuck to the topic and looked with a litte more common sense with the topic Some gave great responses Some well just want to make a drama thread shrugs     OH WELL   it would do you good to read the whole thing with a grain of salt  shrugs  what ever lol

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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

Prinsexx and sexyred are truely inspiring people thank you for telling it as it is. It is always cool to find people who understand  :)

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I don't know anything about the OP, only from his posts on the forums, but from what I can deduce here, some people, like the OP, have had some very hurtful experiences with a particular topic, this one for example.

So they post about it under the guise of getting other's opinions. When presented with the many options that people's lives are comprised of, they get upset because they did not hear validation of their own thoughts.

Instead of getting the reality that there are truly many different views and ways of conducting relationships, even if they differ with yours.

Some people can read, without comprehending.

Some can hear, without listening.

I think that the OP is suffering from this.

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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

Prinsexx and sexyred are truely inspiring people thank you for telling it as it is. It is always cool to find people who understand  :)

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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

you people would never make great defectives lol    first part is a observation to here the second is the question   (It has nothing to do with me it is based on the the reflection of different threads that has been posted) 

How do you feel about people who are lin the lifestyle who want to play out side of marraige and is it kinda of a lie to what they have  shrugs 

the Insitution to marriage means many things. It is a label. But everyones Labeling system is different  shrugs . People when they first get married have a mind set. 
not everyone wants an open marriage and may just be going along with it to please their partner.   

         What i wanted everyone to voice on was

1.  playing with a married person ( someone who has not told their partner)
   
2. understanding the dynamics of marriage or collar
   
3. when someone lies or has an hidden agenda with in marriage
   
4. if you are in a closed marriage how you see others who do

it was just that simple you should have stuck to the topic and looked with a litte more common sense with the topic Some gave great responses Some well just want to make a drama thread shrugs     OH WELL   it would do you good to read the whole thing with a grain of salt  shrugs  what ever lol

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ORIGINAL: Darcyandthedark

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ORIGINAL: Prinsexx
and it makes no difference that I am of the female gender...I can't say all submissives feel like this but I would hazard a guess as to suggest that having a Dom as devoted and committed to me as i felt to him would be paradise but thats simply not the dynamic is it?

I read your post quite a few times(I usually do with your words) - It does feel like paradise and it can be the dynamic - it certainly is how and what I feel from Darcy.  Im not trying to sound like we have the perfect dynamic and we have times that can suck sure (yeah, shock horror!)but the relationship rocks even in the bad times because of the dynamic of devotion and commitment he allows for us.  I simply could not be in a relationship with someone who wasn't.  But I am also blessed because he has the patience to also show me that his devotion and commitment is different to how mine is to him.  Different though doesn't mean less.  So don't ever be lead to believe that the dynamic cannot lead to the possibility of the dominant being loving, commited and that he/she doesn't or cannot cherish their s-type.  Just because that isn't the dynamic you may be in or feeling at the moment, may just mean that it isn't the dynamic you truely need or want.  So don't ever just settle.(Don't know if that makes sense).
Prinnie - have to say, when you write you do rock - because you write from the heart.
 
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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

. Yes it was a lot more then open marriages and  I do not know where you got that quote from. I was refereeing to the one above yours but that is ok you spend to much time on computer Hence at this point am bored on this thread cause it in a bad loop. that is the sad thing with two dimensional thinking   (two people can read the same article and take it two different ways) look at the first five post they did it and they got it yep

namaste

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ORIGINAL: LATEXBABY64

I see  Married People on here dom subs dommes a lot of open marraiges. for me It just means drama in waiting. How do you feel about people who are lin the lifestyle who want to play out side of marraige and is it kinda of a lie to what they have  shrugs