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* Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 1:07:24 PM   
HardnRuff


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Status: offline 		 Do you think it is possible for someone to have 'faith' in God (or your deity or religion of choice) and live a BDSM lifestyle at the same time?If so how do you reconcile the two ?
I can`t wait to hear what folks say to this one .

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 1:09:08 PM   
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 Do you think it is possible for someone to have 'faith' in God (or your deity or religion of choice) and live a BDSM lifestyle at the same time?If so how do you reconcile the two ?
I can`t wait to hear what folks say to this one .

Well, right now there's a small gathering of Pentacostalist and ex-Pentacostalists hanging around in the Off-Topic Discussion forum.

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 1:09:25 PM   
Shawn1066


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Status: offline 		I don't just think it's possible...I know it is.  It's easy.  I live it, My Owner lives it, and her other submissive lives it.  I fail to see how my religion conflicts with the lifestyle.

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 1:13:24 PM   
akisha


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Status: offline 		There are lots and lots of Christian BDSM groups and boards and sites and chat rooms. I'm guessing it's not that hard.

Not sure how a belief in God would interfere with being active in the BDSM lifestyle.

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 1:15:29 PM   
HardnRuff


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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 1:26:59 PM   
Missokyst


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Status: offline 		I believe in God.  It is religion I have issues with, as they are directed by men.  I don't see a problem with bdsm and my relationship with God. 
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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 1:53:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HardnRuff

 Do you think it is possible for someone to have 'faith' in God (or your deity or religion of choice) and live a BDSM lifestyle at the same time?If so how do you reconcile the two ?
I can`t wait to hear what folks say to this one .


Faith in a god or deity and live BDSM? Yes.
How to reconcile? That depends on the religion or spirituality.  For me, it doesn't contradict at all therefore I don't have the need to 'reconcile'.
 
What does it mean to you?
 
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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 1:56:08 PM   
AquaticSub


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ORIGINAL: HardnRuff

 Do you think it is possible for someone to have 'faith' in God (or your deity or religion of choice) and live a BDSM lifestyle at the same time?If so how do you reconcile the two ?
I can`t wait to hear what folks say to this one .


It's very possible. I know Christians, Pagans and Wiccans who are all very active in the lifestyle personally. There really isn't any need to reconcile anything. You just are what you are. This is not a way of life that belongs solely to the atheist.

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 1:59:45 PM   
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ORIGINAL: HardnRuff

 Do you think it is possible for someone to have 'faith' in God (or your deity or religion of choice) and live a BDSM lifestyle at the same time?If so how do you reconcile the two ?
I can`t wait to hear what folks say to this one .


Why would the two be mutually exclusive?

From your last line, it sounds as if you were hoping for some more provocative answers, but I will bet you will get the same responses from most.

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 2:04:24 PM   
domiguy


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Status: offline 		I think you might find difficulty if you take the bible as the word of Christ and believe that what is written within is something that should be adhered to.  If you take the bible as being literal then your hypocrisy probably has no bounds.

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 2:14:26 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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Status: offline 		Well if you believe in a god that is an actual being and that actually has as its main law and commandment that you "be kinky to eachother" then the problem is how do you be NOT kinky to people.

I don't know of any religion or faith which prevents people from spanking eachother during sex.  Now, there may need to be a set of predetermined conditions for physical contact (time of month, sex/gender, permissions from higher authorities, etc) and there may be restrictions on any number of activities most of us CALL kinky- but just "doing kinky stuff" isn't forbidden in any of the faiths or religions we've created that I can recall.

It's when people want to be X religion and do Y action which is specifically forbidden either outright or with certain conditions and they aren't adhering to those conditions, that you get a problem.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_759471/mpage_2/key_religion/tm.htm#761510
bdsm and christianity to me

http://www.collarchat.com/m_651144/mpage_1/key_christian/tm.htm#651149
"Christian" bdsm?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_101393/mpage_1/key_religion%252Cbdsm/tm.htm#101393
bdsm lifestyle vs christianity/religion

http://www.collarchat.com/m_112713/mpage_1/key_religion%252Cbdsm/tm.htm#112713
bdsm spirituality???

http://www.collarchat.com/m_114995/mpage_1/key_religion%252Cbdsm/tm.htm#114995
Christianity and ds bdsm

http://www.collarchat.com/m_154410/mpage_1/key_religion%252Cbdsm/tm.htm#154410
a sacred take on bdsm

http://www.collarchat.com/m_168844/mpage_1/key_religion%252Cbdsm/tm.htm#168844
bdsm and religion

http://www.collarchat.com/m_176205/mpage_1/key_religion%252Cbdsm/tm.htm#176205
sensuality & religion = what?

http://www.collarchat.com/m_193896/mpage_1/key_religion%252Cbdsm/tm.htm#193896
religion and bdsm

http://www.collarchat.com/m_275551/mpage_1/key_religion%252Cbdsm/tm.htm#275551
christians everywhere!

http://www.collarchat.com/m_323932/mpage_1/key_religion%252Cbdsm/tm.htm#323932
no...not the spiritual trip

http://www.collarchat.com/m_299050/mpage_1/key_faith%252Cbdsm/tm.htm#299050
power and spirit

http://www.collarchat.com/m_133611/mpage_1/key_spirituality%252Cbdsm/tm.htm#133611
bdsm and spirituality?

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 2:35:41 PM   
AFlyInYourWeb


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Why would the two be mutually exclusive?

From your last line, it sounds as if you were hoping for some more provocative answers, but I will bet you will get the same responses from most.


Why indeed?

After all, the entire "Passion of Christ" is one long BDSM scene: the scourging, the crown of thorns, the soldiers casting lots for his clothing [humiliation play?], and let's not forget being nailed to the cross. 

And in the Old Testament, there's the tale of Samson and Delilah....

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 3:16:19 PM   
xoxi


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Status: offline 		I believe in God. I'm not any particular religion but I definitely believe in God. I don't see how that at all contradicts with my D/s relationship...except that I can't call him 'my god' without feeling a tinge of guilt

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 3:30:06 PM   
beltainefaerie


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Status: offline 		I can't see what I have to "reconcile".  God(dess) gave us many paths to find our creator, and many paths to explore pleasure.  I fail to see how one path to pleasure would have anything to do with faith in God or lack thereof.

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 3:45:48 PM   
Kaiynasha


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Status: offline 		It is possible. You have to be secure and know who you are and still be able to put aside what's not for you and what is.

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 4:10:32 PM   
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NO.
 
Mentally ill people- including those that believe in unicorns, lucky pennies, god, alien lizard people in the whitehouse, or any other fantastic belief system, cannot give consent, and therefore, cannot participate in consentual SM.

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 4:19:23 PM   
sweetvikkii


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Status: offline 		I am a sub female and only just recently became interested in this lifestyle and I am having no problem with reconciling it with my religion.  Where is it written that you can only enjoy a vanilla lifestyle?  As long as I am not hurting anyone, what is the problem?

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 4:27:37 PM   
gorgeous1


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Status: offline 		I believe in God, and I adhere to biblical commands as far as my marriage. We don't share ourselves with others, and God remains pretty quiet about "spicing up" a married life when it comes to the bible. I don't feel bad, dirty, or wicked after having a rough and tumble night with my hubby, so what's there to reconcile?

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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 4:30:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		my spirituality is deeply entwined with my BDSM ... and yes i believe in God though it may not be your God.  if someone was really fairly fundamentalist Christian i think they could reconcile it so long it was always the man who was the Dom and the sub was always a woman, that there was no oral/anal, the pair was strictly monogamous.. that would be in a religion that did not ban non-procreative sex acts.  OK you could work it out that the spankings were just the Head of Household disciplining the dependent charges and did not have a sexual element (yeah -- ok -- sure). Otherwise any spanking, etc. would have to lead to procreative sex, but if so you would be ok. 

I prefer the God of my understanding...
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RE: * Beliefs and beatings * - 11/21/2007 4:48:28 PM   
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Status: offline 		huh? I deliver alot of babies for religious families living in D/s lifestyles. Think about it--Mormons, Amish, conservative gospel religions, Muslims and, even the Rainbow people have their faiths and D/s as a daily part of their lives. Reconcile what? To me, the two are intertwined.

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