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ORIGINAL: AbsitInvidia

Surprisingly enough despite what they teach you in Women's Lib 101Soshi

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ORIGINAL: AbsitInvidia

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ORIGINAL: Cyntilating

So, I am reading one of the other threads and the term SLUT is being thrown around in various ways.
 
I don't want to hijack the other thread, so asking my question here..
 
Slut
 
What does the word mean to you?

To me it's a woman who is indiscriminate about her sexual partners.

Someone who doesn't moderate their sex drive, and is driven to have sex because of the act itself. Someone who sees her sexual partners as a vessel for her own sexual pleasure, no more, no less.

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Does it mean a negative thing when you use it ( call someone that ) ??

Yes

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Does it feel negative when you are called a slut?

Yes...it really bothers me. Actually that word more than anything else sets something off in me that just feels so degrading and makes me feel ashamed of my own sexuality. It makes me want to *prove* somehow I'm not one.

Master used to use it, before he met me, but he doesn't use it with me because he knows how I react to it. I can see the reasons that people use it with their significant others on an intellectual level, but my emotions can't follow suit.

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Does it feel different? less acceptable?  > when a man calls a woman that or when a woman calls another woman that?

It depends...a lot of times a man will call a woman a slut because he's mad at her, or she rejected him. That doesn't necessarily make her one. When a woman calls another woman a slut it's usually because she actually did something slutty.

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Can men be sluts too?

Oh definitely. I know that gay men use it quite frequently to describe a promiscuous gay guy...and I've heard it a few times to talk about straight guys. But usually the term is "male slut" to specify. It definitely has a different connotation than 'player' does...although both can be used either negatively or positively.

I haven't read this thread past the first page yet, I'm sort of multitasking at the moment, but I definitely look forward to reading all of it. I've always hated how casually this word is thrown around in the scene. Obviously its a part of humiliation/degradation fetishes...but it's so commonly used outside of that and it seems like anyone who gets offended by it is just told "get over it, your feelings are archaic" or something like that.

I personally see the word 'slut' as an attack against women's sexuality. It is a sexist term that is used to attack and degrade a certain segment of the population. I don't see words like 'spic' or 'nigger' being thrown around casually even though race play is a fetish just like humiliation and degradation is. It's definitely offensive for those of us who don't aspire to be sluts when the word is used towards us...and then half the time when we say we're offended instead of an apology we hear "get over it."

Something I obviously feel strongly about, can't you tell?

-Soshi

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ORIGINAL: AbsitInvidia
When a woman calls another woman a slut it's usually because she actually did something slutty.

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ORIGINAL: camille65
If someone wants to take pride in being seen/called slut/bitch or cunt then that is fine but it is very much not for me

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ORIGINAL: KashmirKitten

To me it would matter who was calling me slut. When Master Chris calls me this it has ummm a moistening efect But if my mother was to call me a slut i would be very hurt. Noy sure if that helps, just my .02 worth....

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ORIGINAL: MadRabbit

Seriously Long and Useless Threads.

I hate SLUTS and there is too many of them on Collarme.com

(This wasn't directed towards your thread)

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ORIGINAL: camille65
I really do understand that luci. It is just that for me, I can take pride and revel in my sexuality but in my mind that does not make me a slut

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Yes I attach the old meaning to that word but then again 'I' am old

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A bit like that one thread trying to change the meaning of the word 'doormat' from being someone easily walked over to someone being okay with their submissiveness. The word 'slut' will likely never change definition for me and I really am okay with that heh.I tried to imagine people I know in RL casually using that word in a positive manner and came up blank.It simply is not a word for me or used by me. I don't understand the easy usage of the word by others however I'm not going to fight against it. I just don't take part in it

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Hope that made a wee bit of sense but it is early early in the morning lol

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ORIGINAL: Cyntilating

So, I am reading one of the other threads and the term SLUT is being thrown around in various ways.
 
I don't want to hijack the other thread, so asking my question here..
 
Slut
 
What does the word mean to you?
 
Does it mean a negative thing when you use it ( call someone that ) ??
Does it feel negative when you are called a slut?
Does it feel different? less acceptable?  > when a man calls a woman that or when a woman calls another woman that?
Can men be sluts too?
  (giggles)
 
positive or negative<< is determined more by the attitude of the caller of the name  or   the attitude of the receiver of the name ?
 

On the whole I have  a negative response to the word, to me, used in a general situation it is nothing but a put down, and not meant in a positive way, doesn't matter who is using it, the implication is that the person is of loose morals and sexually promiscious.

However I have found that depending on who is saying it to me, that it has a different meaning, like when my special someone calls me 'his slutling' I know he means it as a term of affection... THAT took some getting used to.

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ORIGINAL: Muttling

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, the implication is that the person is of loose morals and sexually promiscious.

And that's bad because.........



A man of loose morals and sexual promiscuity is called a what??????  Name ONE word that is used for promisuous males in the same light as slut is used.   
GIGOLO  ????


OK.....THINK CAREFULLY of your answer to the above.   There's TWO approaches to the question.




FIRST is the vanilla approach where slut is a bad thing.  The male equivalent is generally considered acceptable if not preferrable in the vanilla context.

going back to the term Gigolo >  I have seen it mean/have both negative and positive perceptions.

SECOND is the poly/ kink approach where a slut is a desirable woman who can be had by the men/women who she or her master choose to let enjoy her.  Where do male sluts fit into this picture?  I have NEVER seen a male slut presented as being remotely close to the desirability of a female slut in a poly/ kink setting.



Pick your preference.   Are you a vanilla who is so uptight that they can't accept sexual desire outside strict guidelines of monogomy (even monogomy of fantasy and desire) or can you embrace our world where limits are determined by individual members of a relationship instead of social norms.

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ORIGINAL: SeraphinaKrow

I  love using the word slut, but it's always in a teasing matter, and yes I always call the boys sluts, who says that the word slut is only used to demean promiscuous women???

I reclaim slut as I reclaim W.H.O.R.E. (We Honor Ourselves with, Respect and Empowerment)

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ORIGINAL: camille65

Sorry for the long copy but it really says all that I want to say on this topic. 

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ORIGINAL: Cyntilating

So, I am reading one of the other threads and the term SLUT is being thrown around in various ways.
 
I don't want to hijack the other thread, so asking my question here..
 
Slut
 
What does the word mean to you?

To me it's a woman who is indiscriminate about her sexual partners.

Someone who doesn't moderate their sex drive, and is driven to have sex because of the act itself. Someone who sees her sexual partners as a vessel for her own sexual pleasure, no more, no less.

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Does it mean a negative thing when you use it ( call someone that ) ??

Yes

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Does it feel negative when you are called a slut?

Yes...it really bothers me. Actually that word more than anything else sets something off in me that just feels so degrading and makes me feel ashamed of my own sexuality. It makes me want to *prove* somehow I'm not one.

Master used to use it, before he met me, but he doesn't use it with me because he knows how I react to it. I can see the reasons that people use it with their significant others on an intellectual level, but my emotions can't follow suit.

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Does it feel different? less acceptable?  > when a man calls a woman that or when a woman calls another woman that?

It depends...a lot of times a man will call a woman a slut because he's mad at her, or she rejected him. That doesn't necessarily make her one. When a woman calls another woman a slut it's usually because she actually did something slutty.

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Can men be sluts too?

Oh definitely. I know that gay men use it quite frequently to describe a promiscuous gay guy...and I've heard it a few times to talk about straight guys. But usually the term is "male slut" to specify. It definitely has a different connotation than 'player' does...although both can be used either negatively or positively.

I haven't read this thread past the first page yet, I'm sort of multitasking at the moment, but I definitely look forward to reading all of it. I've always hated how casually this word is thrown around in the scene. Obviously its a part of humiliation/degradation fetishes...but it's so commonly used outside of that and it seems like anyone who gets offended by it is just told "get over it, your feelings are archaic" or something like that.

I personally see the word 'slut' as an attack against women's sexuality. It is a sexist term that is used to attack and degrade a certain segment of the population. I don't see words like 'spic' or 'nigger' being thrown around casually even though race play is a fetish just like humiliation and degradation is. It's definitely offensive for those of us who don't aspire to be sluts when the word is used towards us...and then half the time when we say we're offended instead of an apology we hear "get over it."

Something I obviously feel strongly about, can't you tell?

-Soshi

 I strongly agree. I do not like derogatory terms and yes to me, and every one I personally know 'slut' is derogatory. That does not mean I am uptight or a prude, it simply means that I detest that lable. If someone wants to take pride in being seen/called slut/bitch or cunt then that is fine but it is very much not for me. I find it ironic, the reaction that those who don't like the word are receiving. Being called a prude, uptight etc.....Could it be that some simply don't like labels? Or that some don't like being called words with a solid history of negativity behind them? There is nothing wrong with that IMO, nothing wrong with not wanting to be called names associated with such a bad meaning for so long. And btw Muttling, many colleges have Womens Lib, or at the least Womens Studies in their curriculum. Or they did when I was college aged.

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ORIGINAL: camille65 Yes I attach the old meaning to that word but then again 'I' am old

I wouldn't call you "old."  But, I do think you touch on something interesting here.  I think many folks from probably their 30's on down to teen years probably just don't have the negative associations with such words as prior generations did.  It's just something they've heard more casually and frankly don't see as "bad."

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The meaning of 'slut' has not changed drastically from the beginning to now. It still is about women & sexuality and there are a lot of people that still see it in a negative way.