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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/23/2007 9:35:25 PM   
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Being raised a Girl.. and the baby of my family (aaaawwwwwww ~ Blech!) I was raised to be the pretty pretty princess. However the pretty pretty princess also loved to climb trees, beat up the bully boys, and ride horses growing up. She grew into a young girl who at first was a push over.. but learned to say no.. then hell no.. then go to bloody hell and fuck off  you wanker. *smiles sweetly*  I have OCD.. and I am a perfectionist.. I have to learn to let things go sometimes.. I will go on frantic cleaning and cooking bendges... we are talking for days with little food, and even less sleep. I have to make my self stop at times.. and alow clutter. Like my office is now *twitch twitch*

When I was younger I worried about how I looked, what folks thought... but then I hit the end of middle school and my "I give a shit" wore out. Now I dont give a fig what others think.. thank goodness. Those who love me find it charming. I have a style of my own.. and I do my own thing. Everyone else can . Though with losing so much weight the whole about the middle thing is driving me nuts.. *grabs and jiggles it* Ewww..

I try to be as good of a person as I can be.. but I am far from perfect.. and we all know what happened to the last guy that was perfect.. no thanks.

I guess folks will have to deal with me dressing like an ideal pretty pretty princess. Even if I am not one. *smiles*

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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/23/2007 9:36:03 PM   
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My answer is like RRafe's--set up an equally harsh ideal for you to meet, but a totally different one.  And yet one that you can follow through to a 'climax' of proven worth.  Recently I like the idea I read in the bloopers thread of having you do advanced math or discuss philosophy while you're scening, nipples clipped, whipped, and chained.  Prove you can do that and the Martha Stewart ideal falls by the wayside; you have strength, you know it, and you don't have to meet an unrealistic ideal.  Not that I object to a clean house, but obsessing over it requires measures.  Plus I'm bizarre in that the idea of a really literate, really smart person and yet a sexy and utterly submissive woman turns me on. 

I guess what I'm trying to say is that there's a difference between 'embracing imperfection' versus proving that you have real value regardless of your imperfections. 


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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/23/2007 10:02:42 PM   
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I really don't seem to have the issues that a lot of men do-it's sort of strange to me..........That guys who claim to be dominant have so much fear. What are they going to lose by being willing to just relax? I absolutely LOVE being able to play cat and mouse with a girl. It's one of the reasons I do this sort of stuff. The little princess, reduced to a spasming cunt-impaled on my fist?

What happened to that tiara? Did it get forgotten for some strange reason? Or she's over my knee, jerking around, as her ass gets SO red from a hard spanking...........I'm afraid that hairdo is going to be a total loss!  But-does she CARE at that moment?

Or down on her knees in front of me, panting from the lust I've been building in her for the past several hours-promising just about ANYTHING to get off..............drooling from both ends, blushing to her tits...........

Could this be my little animal?

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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 12:14:46 AM   
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uh....I forgot what I was going to say...I lost my train of thought...let me go pick up that tiara....

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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 12:19:20 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DMFParadox

My answer is like RRafe's--set up an equally harsh ideal for you to meet, but a totally different one.  And yet one that you can follow through to a 'climax' of proven worth.  Recently I like the idea I read in the bloopers thread of having you do advanced math or discuss philosophy while you're scening, nipples clipped, whipped, and chained.  Prove you can do that and the Martha Stewart ideal falls by the wayside; you have strength, you know it, and you don't have to meet an unrealistic ideal.  Not that I object to a clean house, but obsessing over it requires measures.  Plus I'm bizarre in that the idea of a really literate, really smart person and yet a sexy and utterly submissive woman turns me on. 

I guess what I'm trying to say is that there's a difference between 'embracing imperfection' versus proving that you have real value regardless of your imperfections. 



awesome post DMF.

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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 12:20:27 AM   
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I really don't seem to have the issues that a lot of men do-it's sort of strange to me..........That guys who claim to be dominant have so much fear. What are they going to lose by being willing to just relax? I absolutely LOVE being able to play cat and mouse with a girl. It's one of the reasons I do this sort of stuff. The little princess, reduced to a spasming cunt-impaled on my fist?

What happened to that tiara? Did it get forgotten for some strange reason? Or she's over my knee, jerking around, as her ass gets SO red from a hard spanking...........I'm afraid that hairdo is going to be a total loss!  But-does she CARE at that moment?

Or down on her knees in front of me, panting from the lust I've been building in her for the past several hours-promising just about ANYTHING to get off..............drooling from both ends, blushing to her tits...........

Could this be my little animal?


For pete's sake Rrafe.........stop toying with the women.

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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 12:21:25 AM   
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Really, he is such a sadist!

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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 12:22:21 AM   
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Yeah it's awesome ain't it?  He's also the hugest tease here.

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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 12:23:23 AM   
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I know, it's great; I love people who can write in a stimulating manner, if ya know what I mean.

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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 6:37:28 AM   
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This kind of braggadocio is fairly common around here... I think it comes with the "You, too, can be a Dominant!" initiation kit. 

Would be truly something if the actions live up to the words.


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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 6:41:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

This kind of braggadocio is fairly common around here... I think it comes with the "You, too, can be a Dominant!" initiation kit. 

Would be truly something if the actions live up to the words.




I have LOTS of real life refferences. Do you?

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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 7:44:00 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: RRafe

quote:

ORIGINAL: TreasureKY

This kind of braggadocio is fairly common around here... I think it comes with the "You, too, can be a Dominant!" initiation kit. 

Would be truly something if the actions live up to the words.



I have LOTS of real life refferences. Do you?


lol...  Sorry, I didn't mean to make you feel threatened.

As far as references, well... I don't refer to prior relationship partners as "references".  Seems kind of pointless to me.  I'm perfectly capable of determining how suited someone is to me without the help of a stranger.

As an aside... I've always wondered just how those telephone conversations would go if I called a prospective partner's references... 

*telephone rings*

Reference:
   "Hello?"


Me:  *clears throat*  "Ummm... yes... My name is losttreasure and I'm currently considering being with Joe in a relationship that will involve sex.  I understand that you and he were once together?"

Reference:  "Uhhh... yeah."

Me:  "Good.  Well, he has given me your name and information so that I could contact you.  I'd like to ask you a few questions about your impressions of Joe, if you have a minute?"

Reference:  "What kind of questions?"

Me:  "Well... I'm trying to gauge if he's really capable of doing what he says he can do, or if he's just bragging.  You know how men can be."  *implied wink by tone of voice*

Reference:  *hesitation*  "What he can do?  Such as?"

Me:  *clears throat again*  "Hmmm... let me see... he says that he can have me panting with lust, drooling from both ends, and promising ANYTHING to get off... that he will spend hours playing with me, building that lust, and have me reduced to a spasming cunt.  Does that sound about right in your experience?"

Reference:  *peal of laughter followed by coughing fit*  "He said all that, did he?  Hmmm... Look, Joe's a great guy... don't get me wrong.  He is very capable in...er... that area; I don't have any complaints.  But, well... you know about men and their egos, don't you?  It's kinda like that cock size thing... thinking if they dazzle us enough we'll believe that five inches is really nine." 

Me:  *snorts with laughter*  "Yeah... personally I've never had the heart to call any of them on it."

Reference:  "I know what you mean.  Well, like I said, Joe is a great guy.  We just didn't have enough in common to keep things going on the outside.  Perhaps you'll have better luck there."

Me:  "Perhaps.  Thanks for your time, though.  Bye."

Well... that was real helpful.  Fun, though.

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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 7:49:47 AM   
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lololololololololol

Gee when I was single I was still doing the first date over coffee thing.  If I had known I could just ask for a resume I would have saved a lot of time!

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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 7:58:11 AM   
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I totally agree with you and wish more men had that vision. I do believe that some men are afraid of letting out the true base animal sides of themselves, so of course they would be loathe to test the waters with someone one.
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It is true, which is what makes this so liberating isn't it? to be able to lustily embrace all that is woman, in all her wonderful raw sensual glory- I am a painter and love those 18th century Classical paintings of women who are fleshy, full bodied and Reubenesque- not because of any weird fat fetish, just it is beautiful to see women who are the opposite of Men, soft and round to our sharp and rough and hard.

I think the runway/magazine cover  model ideal today is actually warped and twisted- the ideal seems to worship the childlike, the prepubescent and androgynous, rather than the truly feminine.

Likewise, the ideal male model seems oddly feminine, the hairless and meek metrosexual; I know enjoy My animal Maleness, in all its calloused unshaven roughness, giving vent to the raw carnal desires and rutting bull passions.

I think when we embace, rather than suppress,  our true wild natures, ironically, it becomes easier to set them aside to then focus on the other more civilized pursuits.

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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 9:53:23 AM   
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I want to be perfect!! The idea of being perfect frustrates me so much. I always feel like perfection is dangling just out of my reach and for the life of me i cant find a stool. It is very frustrating and then i rebel against it ... horribly. I guess what i want is to find a perfection for me that is within my grasp which would be very different than others. It truly is a conflict because  i also have no desire to be perfect because i think that our flaws help shape who we are and make us original ...but i feel like i am SUPPOSED to be perfect.

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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 10:09:24 AM   
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I want to be perfect!! The idea of being perfect frustrates me so much. I always feel like perfection is dangling just out of my reach and for the life of me i cant find a stool. It is very frustrating and then i rebel against it ... horribly. I guess what i want is to find a perfection for me that is within my grasp which would be very different than others. It truly is a conflict because  i also have no desire to be perfect because i think that our flaws help shape who we are and make us original ...but i feel like i am SUPPOSED to be perfect.


Exactly....i feel like i am SUPPOSED to be....but i too agree with the flaw thing making us who we are. i am grateful for the fukt up stuff i've done and been through because it has made the good stuff in me as well as the bad.





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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 10:12:02 AM   
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ORIGINAL: RRafe

I really don't seem to have the issues that a lot of men do-it's sort of strange to me..........That guys who claim to be dominant have so much fear. What are they going to lose by being willing to just relax? I absolutely LOVE being able to play cat and mouse with a girl. It's one of the reasons I do this sort of stuff. The little princess, reduced to a spasming cunt-impaled on my fist?

What happened to that tiara? Did it get forgotten for some strange reason? Or she's over my knee, jerking around, as her ass gets SO red from a hard spanking...........I'm afraid that hairdo is going to be a total loss!  But-does she CARE at that moment?

Or down on her knees in front of me, panting from the lust I've been building in her for the past several hours-promising just about ANYTHING to get off..............drooling from both ends, blushing to her tits...........

Could this be my little animal?


Also JUST TO CLARIFY ....when i used the term Princess i didn't mean it like the typical princess complex that a lot of subs have....like where i am meant to be up on the pedestal or some dumb shit. (i was just going with the fairy tale theme and it seemed to fit)

What i did mean is kind of like a tarnished princess...kind of like the best of the Madonna/whore thing....the nastiest....dirtiest...filthiest little home maker, baker and slut. Who has on super obnoxious high heels and a short little skirt and who is made up like the 'perfect" little slut doll....but who will make you a great meal...an amazing dessert....cater to your needs and then be available for hardcore anal sex and A2M....

The desire to do all of that perfectly and then kicking yourself if anything is not "just so"

(i love the imagery though....the little animal with the matted hair and stuff...panting.....very nice imagery indeed :))


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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 10:47:30 AM   
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After reading the "Prince Charming "and "Knight in Shining Armour" threads it made me think....and maybe "Ideal princess" isn't the right description, but it fit with all the fairy tales...

Soooo how many of you have been "victim"  of trying to live up to the perfect ideal that is shoveled into our heads by the media from childhood on.  Whether that is some fairy tale "princess" or June Cleaver or Donna Reed? Even though your Master/Mistress/Dom/me tries to reassure you that you are just fine the way you are.

i am very guilty of this. Trying to always attain the unattainable perfection and if it isn't totally perfect then it is a failure. i look at my Master/Daddy as a King of the Castle and of our realm and am always trying to do it all perfectly....trying to be the perfect little Suzi Homemaker and total nasty little slut all rolled into one.

my ideal though is much harsher to accomplish than that which he wishes of me...but this just sets up for alot of failure on its own (in my head).

I've heard this concept alot from other sub types and it seems like a very common thing....and yet...it seems  acceptable and like a positive to want to attain this level of perfect for one's "M"...not necessarily wanting to be a Princess in a Shining apron and stillettos..but close....and yet all of the Prince Charming/Knight in Shining Armor stuff seems to be looked down on.

Just something that made me think.
What do ya'll think?



There is the second part to the "princess" thing... that her life only begins when she finds that man that completes her.  Some women spend their energies looking for that man, trying to attract him with their beauty, instead of building a life of their own.  That seems to work for some people, but it seems to me, ultimately the only company one has is their own and time is best spent becoming someone enjoyable to be with.

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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 10:55:30 AM   
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ORIGINAL: AnimusRex


I totally agree with you and wish more men had that vision. I do believe that some men are afraid of letting out the true base animal sides of themselves, so of course they would be loathe to test the waters with someone one.


It is true, which is what makes this so liberating isn't it? to be able to lustily embrace all that is woman, in all her wonderful raw sensual glory- I am a painter and love those 18th century Classical paintings of women who are fleshy, full bodied and Reubenesque- not because of any weird fat fetish, just it is beautiful to see women who are the opposite of Men, soft and round to our sharp and rough and hard.

I think the runway/magazine cover  model ideal today is actually warped and twisted- the ideal seems to worship the childlike, the prepubescent and androgynous, rather than the truly feminine.

Likewise, the ideal male model seems oddly feminine, the hairless and meek metrosexual; I know enjoy My animal Maleness, in all its calloused unshaven roughness, giving vent to the raw carnal desires and rutting bull passions.

I think when we embace, rather than suppress,  our true wild natures, ironically, it becomes easier to set them aside to then focus on the other more civilized pursuits.



Well said. I always say, I can go to the opera, have a scintillating discussion about it over dinner, drink a glass of fine wine and then go home and get tied up, roughed up and ravished, all without missing a beat.

Nice how that works.


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RE: I'll see your Prince Charming and raise you an Idea... - 11/24/2007 11:16:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyLegs



There is the second part to the "princess" thing... that her life only begins when she finds that man that completes her.  Some women spend their energies looking for that man, trying to attract him with their beauty, instead of building a life of their own.  That seems to work for some people, but it seems to me, ultimately the only company one has is their own and time is best spent becoming someone enjoyable to be with.



i can only speak for myself...but i wasn't looking when i found my Daddy/was found by him......and i had a life and all the rest when i met him that had to be left behind in order to be with him....So for me, i am almost starting over from scratch and trying my best to be what i think he wants and someone i can feel good about being as well as trying to find a new life of my own that doesn't conflict with my life with him.

And yeah, i can be a bit guilty of wanting a man to "complete" me...but that isn't really terming it quite right. i could be happy with me....happy on my own...that would be the easy part. i enjoy my own company and the things that i like to do and who i am inside of me...So i don't need a man to complete me...but to be the rest of the equation...for me to be at my best.

i can do alot of stuff and enjoy it all...but i am a giving person and the things i enjoy usually have something that i can give to another. Without being able to give whatever it is to someone else it loses part of its joy for me....i could bake or cook (for small examples) and if i were doing it simply for me i just wouldn't do it at all. ...i am a good listener and a good friend and someone who others can lean on or vent to....but without someone to be there for...what am i?


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