slavegirljoy
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Greetings to Joy and DS4
I didn't use the word secret .. I said those two groups don't divulge the inner workings of their sanctums and they don't. The fact that both orgs have websites doesn't mean that all and sundry are privvy to their 'ways' of business.
Celeste
Well, the websites of these two groups did divulge quite a lot of information about their structure and operations, especially Athenor on its FAQ page, http://athenorlodge.com/FAQ.htm and on its Structure page, http://athenorlodge.com/Structure.htm.
slave joy
Owned property of Master David
My point is, while there is information which 'is' put out there for to the general public, this is a lot of information which is 'not' put out there to the general public and this is not an opinion I hold, but a fact of which I have personal knowledge regarding both groups I mentioned.
Celeste
Okay, that's understandable. And, i'm sure that there are many other private groups in existence that are very exclusive and offer training in BDSM. In fact, there are probably many more small, private groups out there that have no website at all. People can form whatever private group they choose.
But, i still don't see why any of these groups or the, so called, "Ancient Houses" should be given any more credibility than any other group or why they should be considered some sort of "standard bearer" of what is and isn't BDSM, just because they are private and exclusive and kept behind a 'veil of concealment' by only disclosing partial information about themselves.
Some people might need that sort of thing to give them some basis of "authenticity" or sense of "authority" on what should and shouldn't be done in their BDSM activities or how they should be doing them. Some people don't need that. Some people prefer to be individualists and to decide for themselves what they should and shouldn't do in their personal BDSM activities.
i just really hope that those who are new to BDSM aren't made to feel that they must learn and follow the ways of one of these groups or 'houses of training' in order to be seen as 'authentic' in the eyes of fellow BDSMers and that they can choose to make their own path in their personal BDSM journey.
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There are lots of other websites, that contain information on BDSM and the information they present never gets discussed here.
slave joy
Owned property of Master David
Try putting the term 'steel door' into the search engine and see if you still hold to that absolute 'never' opinion.
Celeste
i stand corrected. i try never to use the word 'never'. i actually meant to say that "the information they present never seems to get discussed here." And, to be more exact, they never seem to get discussed here with such scrutiny as CastleRealm.
i did just do a search of the term 'steel door' and i was given many pages of posts to look at. i looked at several and found the anything with the word "steel", as in "steel buckle", and anything with the word "door", as in "closed door", came up. Even in the posts where "steel-door" was found, they were either links to the website, itself, or just referencing the website to find additional information. i found no in-depth discussions about "steel door" or about the information presented on that website. Maybe, i'm just not very good at doing searches on here and someone else can find the sort of discussions on "steel door" like there are about CastleRealm. If so, i would be interested in reading them.
slave joy
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When I first got into it, the secret societies I heard about were a turn on. When some (early 90s) groups tried that at first that was a turn on too, note: at first. 
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