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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 12:45:24 PM

slaveboyforyou

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This is just another reminder to us in the West that they are not ready to join the civilized world. All we can do is trade with them and hope they get their shit together one of these days. Businessmen make the policies in all countries whether we like it or not. Sooner or later they will get the message that this kind of barbarism isn't good for business. Then maybe, they will squash this nonsense.

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 12:53:22 PM

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

This is just another reminder to us in the West that they are not ready to join the civilized world. All we can do is trade with them and hope they get their shit together one of these days. Businessmen make the policies in all countries whether we like it or not. Sooner or later they will get the message that this kind of barbarism isn't good for business. Then maybe, they will squash this nonsense.

When Kennedy was assassinated world America not ready to join the civilized war? What about when Hinckley shot Reagan. Oh and the guy that had the bombs at Clinton's office in New Hampshire....

Dude, what's the difference? An entire country didn't assassinate Bhutto!

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 1:00:09 PM

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A sad, terrible day. The only one who would have had a chance to bring peace to a nuclear capable country is dead. This is just the beginning. We are soooooooooo fucked!

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 3:11:28 PM

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a powerful, intelligent, peace-minded woman. definintely a threat to the extremist factions in pakistan. i admired her and her willingness to risk her life for what was right. i think the above poster is right, we're all so screwed!

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 3:21:48 PM

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pakistan's a small coup away from another islamic revolution. At which point the West will put in another Shah-esque strong man to keep careful tabs on the nuclear arms and technology. Partitioning India and Pakistan along religious lines will have devastating longterm political consequences. Pakistan's population is as religiously fervent as any other country in the region.

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 4:06:00 PM

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If Pakistan falls into chaos, there is a strong chance that Al Quieda could gain control of the country's nukes. At least half of the news agencies in both the US, the UK and several other countries count this as a real possibility. (Not just Fox Noise BS) I've been hearing the term "loose nukes" on just about every news broadcast today. This could turn very, very bad for us folks. Let's hope they can pull it together, before our insane enemies, sworn to destroy us, get ahold of the most powerful weapons on the face of the planet.

Who knows? If that were to happen, me might have to... erase... Pakistan.

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 4:35:39 PM

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To my knowledge Pakistan conducted one nuclear test some time ago. I’m sure more nukes went missing when the soviet union fell and you have plenty of extremist enclaves there that no one seems to worry about. When Britain was developing its programme it struggled to produce the materials for ever single nuclear test it carried out. There is a difference between a nation conducting Nuclear tests and becoming a fully fledged nuclear power. Maybe times have changed but I somehow doubt Pakistan has hundreds of warheads.

That's not be talking about erasing nations because that's how wars start.

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 4:51:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: bipolarber
If Pakistan falls into chaos, there is a strong chance that Al Quieda could gain control of the country's nukes.

Al Quieda does not exist.

Those nukes wil not wander - but they may be off planet.

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 5:38:03 PM

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It is a damn shame. She was a light in the darkness and could have done so much good for those people. Its too bad so many of them still live in the dark ages.

~Lashra

I'm going to hope that her death is not in vain. Her popularity was such that this event could turn more of the people away from the Islamic Crazy People, just as the excesses and atrocities of Al-Qaeda in Iraq turned the people against them there.

We wait and see, I guess.

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 5:40:29 PM

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I am very hurt by her death. All she wanted was to help her people. I am so heartbroken.

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 5:45:04 PM

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It is a damn shame. She was a light in the darkness and could have done so much good for those people. Its too bad so many of them still live in the dark ages.

It's also kind of sad that others invariably judge their way of living as wrong. Doesn't leave much room for building bridges, now, does it? I mean, consider for a moment what it'd be like if the positions were reversed, with the Muslim world being the world's financial superpowers, waiting for the rest of us to catch up with the civilized (i.e. well thought of by the main players) world? I think we'd probably fight very hard to keep our own culture.

Anyway... you should rejoice... now they've immortalized the message... you can't kill the dead.

As the text said, "she has been martyred."

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 5:51:24 PM

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The US bombed one of his safehouses in Afghanistan back in late 2001 killing his wife and children [...]

So, to see if I've got this straight, in an attempt at neutralizing a threat, the US liberated the threat from all Earthly bonds, so that he can now fully commit himself to his jihad with nothing to lose, no way to turn back, and a personal righteous zeal in addition to the one that he already had? I'm sure more than a few people in the various terrorist organizations out there are eternally grateful for this highly beneficial (for them) move.

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Al-Queda wasn't even really a major group until the late 1980s where the US financed attacks on the Soviet Red Army while they were occupying Afghanistan.

Quite so, and they still aren't, really.

By the way, has the US decided on who will be allowed to run Afghanistan yet?

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 5:54:05 PM

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*sigh*

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 5:54:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

This is just another reminder to us in the West that they are not ready to join the civilized world.

Funny...

Around these parts (Norway; as a nation, we worship the US' ass) some are asking the same about the US.

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 5:55:25 PM

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This whole thing puts Musharaf's power in jeopardy. Although he didnt like Bhutto all that much, it would not bring him any benefit at all to see her killed. The death puts his government in a very vulnerable position.

Yo ho ho ho -- I called it two months ago. It's just a matter of time before Musharaf ends-up with rocket in his pocket also.

It's the price one pays when you let your country--which is shrouded by seventh century idealism--- become subjugated by a Straussian-led, godless, uni-polar entity like the neocons.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1391256/mpage_1/key_bhutto/tm.htm#1392308

As western-thinking peoples......just ponder for a second : What would you do if the situation were reversed, and the Presidency and both houses of congress let our country become a puppet state to an ideology similar to that of turn-of-the century Bolshevism?

I'm thinking more than a President and a few members of congress would be leaving this planet very fast.

Allāhu Akbar

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 6:01:48 PM

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Right up there with the assassination of Anwar Sadat just when there was a real possibility of peace in the Middle East.

Are you suggesting a conspiracy in both cases?

Cartman did solve the mystery of the Urinal Deuce by tying the person who went #2 in the urinal to the conspiracy that
blew up the World Trade Center.

A koinkidink? I think not.

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 6:04:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: slaveboyforyou

This is just another reminder to us in the West that they are not ready to join the civilized world.

Funny...

Around these parts (Norway; as a nation, we worship the US' ass) some are asking the same about the US.

Health,
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There are any number of people in the United States who could make a convincing argument that the United States
left the civilized world at some point in the 1950s.

Viet Congergy, from his fortified bamboo house in Garden Grove, CA, USA.

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 6:28:44 PM

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There are any number of people in the United States who could make a convincing argument that the United States left the civilized world at some point in the 1950s.

Why am I not the least bit surprised to hear that?

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 7:13:48 PM

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There are any number of people in the United States who could make a convincing argument that the United States
left the civilized world at some point in the 1950s.

And yet, strangely, they are still here, and millions more are coming to our "uncivilized" country seeking opportunity.

Perhaps you would be happier loading ships in China? I'm sure you could find an empty container to travel in.

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RE: Pakistan's Bhutto killed in attack - 12/27/2007 7:17:32 PM

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

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ORIGINAL: Sinergy

There are any number of people in the United States who could make a convincing argument that the United States
left the civilized world at some point in the 1950s.

And yet, strangely, they are still here, and millions more are coming to our "uncivilized" country seeking opportunity.

Perhaps you would be happier loading ships in China? I'm sure you could find an empty container to travel in.

Great,....

China`s worse,so that means we can be complete ass-holes,too.As lond as we`re not as bad,...of course.

We are so fucked......

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