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Bitch shoulda known better than to pop her head up out of a vehicle like a turkey at the old-timey turkey shoots.

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

China`s worse,so that means we can be complete ass-holes,too.As long as we`re not as bad,...of course.

We are so fucked......

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ORIGINAL: UtopianRanger

Yo ho ho ho -- I called it two months ago. It's just a matter of time before Musharaf ends-up with rocket in his pocket also.

It's the price one pays when you let your country--which is shrouded by seventh century idealism--- become subjugated by a Straussian-led, godless, uni-polar entity like the neocons.

http://www.collarchat.com/m_1391256/mpage_1/key_bhutto/tm.htm#1392308

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

The people who run your country and mine have a vested interested in painting a certain picture; as a consequence, most sources won't give you or I a balanced view.

Yeah, they have some conservative views towards equality, liberty and order which don't correspond with mine, but then don't we all, eh? - I'm sure I don't need to mention some of the primitive acts we conduct in the name of freedom.

I'm rather bored and uninspired with this one-sided view of cultural differences. It really is tiresome and a case of same old. We've been doing this for centuries. It's always someone else - the Jews, the Irish, the French, the Russians, the Muslims: you name it, everyone but god's chosen people.

I suppose you simply have to ask yourself a few questions:

a) How much do you know of Islam?
b) How much do you know of the Middle Eastern countries?
c) From whom are you getting your information?

'Thing is, we're all humans with dreams and aspirations; I can't believe that the dreams and aspirations of another culture amount to fundamentalism, and based on what I've seen with my own eyes, i.e. spending time in the Middle East, I don't believe the picture painted by those with a vested interest.

Ponder the concept that goverments need an enemy as a means of binding people together for the nationalist cause; American identity was shaped in part by a common enemy - the Indians. The English nationalist cause was in part shaped by the French foe. That's the way governments operate - create an enemy, instill fear, generate a common cause, rally the troops etc.

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ORIGINAL: MistressPav

Bitch shoulda known better than to pop her head up out of a vehicle like a turkey at the old-timey turkey shoots.

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ORIGINAL: subfever

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

The people who run your country and mine have a vested interested in painting a certain picture; as a consequence, most sources won't give you or I a balanced view.

Yeah, they have some conservative views towards equality, liberty and order which don't correspond with mine, but then don't we all, eh? - I'm sure I don't need to mention some of the primitive acts we conduct in the name of freedom.

I'm rather bored and uninspired with this one-sided view of cultural differences. It really is tiresome and a case of same old. We've been doing this for centuries. It's always someone else - the Jews, the Irish, the French, the Russians, the Muslims: you name it, everyone but god's chosen people.

I suppose you simply have to ask yourself a few questions:

a) How much do you know of Islam?
b) How much do you know of the Middle Eastern countries?
c) From whom are you getting your information?

'Thing is, we're all humans with dreams and aspirations; I can't believe that the dreams and aspirations of another culture amount to fundamentalism, and based on what I've seen with my own eyes, i.e. spending time in the Middle East, I don't believe the picture painted by those with a vested interest.

Ponder the concept that goverments need an enemy as a means of binding people together for the nationalist cause; American identity was shaped in part by a common enemy - the Indians. The English nationalist cause was in part shaped by the French foe. That's the way governments operate - create an enemy, instill fear, generate a common cause, rally the troops etc.

Dead-on!

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

The people who run your country and mine have a vested interested in painting a certain picture; as a consequence, most sources won't give you or I a balanced view.

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ORIGINAL: OrionTheWolf

Christianity has already had several revolutions.

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent

The people who run your country and mine have a vested interested in painting a certain picture; as a consequence, most sources won't give you or I a balanced view.

Have you noticed that many people here on CM always see monsters in the shadows...mysterious powerful powerbrokers that control everyone and everything. Some secret organization that pulls the strings on the media to control the weak minded. Out only to manipulate the masses for personal gain.

They Kill Kennedy
They blow up the trade Center
They unleash the CIA and FBI to get you
They control the media
They control the police
Blah blah blah

There is no THEY there is only US… our government reflect us the majority. The vested interests are ours… the view is balanced to our thinking and liking. You are in the minority and you don’t like it… tired of it or not it is the way it is.

Now this view may change as we change, and I hope it does. I happen to agree with you on many subjects so I am also in the minority. But I understand there is no conspiracy, government, or business lobby that is shaping policy. There is just the majority that has elected leaders that reflect their way of thinking.

Butch