MasterWilliam55
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Mercnbeth..Thank you for your post. I've trained some of my slaves to use 3rd speak specifically for unique occassions. As I mentiooned earlier...it's a pleasure to witness at protocol tea ceremonies, dinners, certain fetish events etc. Few I know have Mastered it to your level. In private, my slave would use it to get my attention when asking for things, or begging for something. I might add, this was not a general rule, but rather an exception that proved the rule.
3rd speak, is apart of our historical lexicon, at least within the groups in my area that I am familiar with. I witnessed it and copied it for my slaves beginning in 1981. Many of the M/s folks and some of the broader pansexual community in my area used it and I copied it. Given the level of behaviour required by many Leatherfolk preceeding this date, I would be surprised if it wasn't part of behaviourial training back in the late 50's or 60's. The very idea of protocols; how a slave behaves, stands, speaks, walks, addresses others etc derived it's genesis from that period. How these folks used these ideas in private, I can't speak to. How I witnessed the M/s folks translating them in public, I can. Protocols have been passed down orally and through example, and modified over time. Whether or not J. Wiseman and others referenced them in their writings or not, is a moot point.
I do share Rover's concern over Web Sites which might be classed as Revisionist History Sites. This is something that exists in any number of areas in our culture, but sometimes they are right. We ALL make assumptions about historical fact. I choose to assume that since I witnessed certain behaviour back in 1981, those folks must have got it from somewhere and those that taught them, were themselves taught by another. Right or wrong, it's logical to assume given the nature of Leatherman M/s cultural development, that 3rd speak, however widely it was used or not, may have it's origins there. I may be wrong, but it does make sense. If not, where did it begin?
If history has taught us one thing, it's that our recollection of it is flawed. If you believe this is only a comtemporary concept, then perhaps we're embarking on a new history and M/s cultures will be referencing these pages, 30 years from now.
By way of example, calling Rover the most learned Dom that ever lived would only be someone's opinion today. Thirty years from now it may be considered an historical fact. The author of that viewpoint will be considered a sage, the genesis of that new fact, to be reveared and feited. Sorry Rover, it's only After your death that your words of wisdom will be considered the gospel. It started with an opinion which became a movement, and in time, by extension, a percieved fact. (I just had to add this, I couldn't help it. "grins")
I can only speak of what I witnessed in my circle. I can't speak of these things in a world wide context.
I will add one last comment. It is through the use of subtle or overt protocols that the M/s dynamic is nurtured over time. You may not like or use all of them, but it's the sincerity of the intent that counts. (Calling me Sir is a start, but only a start. Heheheheh".)
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