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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 10:29:13 AM   
Dnomyar


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Status: offline 		I lived in the 50's. The problems are still the same. The attitudes about them has changed. Then it was spare the rod spoil the child. Now it is throw the rod away and let the child do whatever it wishes to. My kids wre raised in the 50's fashion and they truned out perty good. The women then obey the Father perty much. Now the women go on their merry way.  Thats why I am in this life style. To show them the error of their ways.

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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 10:34:44 AM   
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His eyes twinkled as he said, "My woman will always defer to my wishes.  She will dress to my tastes at all times.  My household will be spotless and everything put in it's proper place.  My children will be respectful at all times.  I will be King in my house at all times!"


What do you perceive to be his chances of success? Is this life possible in modern society, or is it only wishful thinking? Can such be achieved (women's deference to man's wishes, respectful children, king of the house) without what much of modern society considers abuse?



I told him good luck with hoping to achieve that scenario. 

I did point out some reality check type things to him.

1. Women are encouraged and expected to be self sufficient and successful.
2. Women are experiencing that a husband is not required to achieve absolute happiness.

On just those two points alone, my son understands and knows that those statements are true, based on how I live my life.  He also wants his wife to be the above type of woman, yet at the same time, he hopes that she wants to live and be happy in a 50's style household. 

Then he had the understanding of the phrase...."He wants his cake and to eat it too!"

He truly wants an equal partner, but that the final decision in their household is his.  Which I explained is absolutely possible, with the right partner, and if you have the education, the experience and the common sense for your partner to trust you for your decisions.

As he walks away, grumbling, "Darn it Mom! You always have to show the education card don't ya?  It's a nice dream and I'm going to keep it, even if it isn't completely feasible!"

Granted, now when I tell him to do something in the house, he responds with, "I wish it was 1950!"  And I respond sweetly, "If this was 1950, your ass would be
whipped bloody for back talking to your Mother!"

How I love being my son's Mom!

~Always the gleeful one~

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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 10:38:46 AM   
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If you want to know what it was really like, go read some books about the time period. Hint: It wasn't what people refer to here as "50s lifestyle"


Please enlighten me with an explanation of what people DO mean here when referring to "50's lifestyle"


An idealized version - similar to the TV shows you didn't want to hear about. Cleaning the house in heels and pearls, always having a drink ready for the man of the house, every woman is a perfect submissive housewife. It's not a bad thing, but you have to acknowledge that it's a heavily idealized version of what really happened.

Like I said, if you want to know what it was really like to live in the 50s, you are probably best off taking the accounts of people who have lived through them with a grain of salt ("good old days" and all that) and reading about the time period through as objective accounts as possible.

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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 11:03:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		I ram across an old book - believe it was called the "Perfect Woman"   it might be just the ticket for what you're seeking.  I recall thinking, it sounds like a training manual for the perfect sub.  Very 50's on how to "please your man".  Dressed nicely, hair and makup done, with his drink and dinner ready when he comes home.  Rub his shoulder/feet.  Ask about his day.  Leave things go until he has had time to unwind.  Rather Stepford Wife-ish -  at the risk of refering to shows as an example.

Strict Southern Baptist still live it (IMO) love, honor and obey as still traditionally part of her vows.  Male dominant D/s tho they will deny it.  The man of the house has his role, duties and responsibilities - and absolute authority. He is the bread winner, king of his castle.   The car, the trash, the lightbulbs and any repair work are his domain.  The woman has her role, duties and responsibilities and is docile, loving and submissive to her man.   She cleans the house , raises the children, keeps her self primped and accessable to him and for him - she supports him totally so that he can concentrate on being the provider for the family.   

My parents were 50's.  No wife of mine is going to work.  She vacuumed the house 3 times a day.  He said poop  she'd jump and in mid air ask what corner, what color and how much.....

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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 11:22:11 AM   
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Please enlighten me with an explanation of what people DO mean here when referring to "50's lifestyle"


It is a fantasy.  At the time, it was sham where everyone pretended that white porcelain made them happy.  Then came the book "The Feminine Mystique," and women who hated their lives and suffered silently came to realize that they were not alone.  Cue the women's lib movement of the 60s.

I think it's nice to have the choice whether to work or not, but the change in economics makes that a very difficult to choice to make for most.  And another thing that changed, women who stay at home don't have much company.  It's not like when I was a kid and all the moms in the neighborhood were home all day and socialized.

My husband does make most of the final decisions after a lot of discussion.  If I get upset about something on which we do not agree, such as I did about the window this weekend, he stops welcoming my input and just makes the decision.  I live with that decision.  Now, that's not near as much fun as a spanking, but that's the way it really works.

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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 12:10:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		To all of you women. Read the "Perfect Woman"  If it sounds like you then come talk to me.  

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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 12:20:27 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Dnomyar

To all of you women. Read the "Perfect Woman"  If it sounds like you then come talk to me.  


Dnomyar - you should be my son's inspiration! 

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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 12:33:00 PM   
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The Good Wife's Guide
From Housekeeping Monthly, 13 May, 1955.
 
  • Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have be thinking about him and are concerned about his needs. Most men are hungry when they get home and the prospect of a good meal is part of the warm welcome needed.
  • Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you'll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your make-up, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh-looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.
  • Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it.
  • Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives. Run a dustcloth over the tables.
  • During the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering to his comfort will provide you with immense personal satisfaction.
  • Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Encourage the children to be quiet.
  • Be happy to see him.
  • Greet him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him.
  • Listen to him. You may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first - remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.
  • Don't greet him with complaints and problems.
  • Don't complain if he's late for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through at work.
  • Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or lie him down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.
  • Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice.
  • Don't ask him questions about his actions or question his judgment or integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.
  • A good wife always knows her place.


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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 12:34:36 PM   
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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 12:38:16 PM   
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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 12:46:22 PM   
subtee


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Status: offline 		The ideals were mutually exclusive: Madonna (of the 50s = housewife) or whore (Ron's preference):
Get out from that kitchen
and rattle those pots and pans,
Get out from that kitchen
and rattle those pots and pans.
Well, roll my breakfast,
'cause I'm a hungry man.
I said Shake rattle and roll,
I said Shake rattle and roll,
I said Shake rattle and roll,
I said Shake rattle and roll;
Well you never do nothin'
to save your doggone soul.
--Bill Haley and the Comets


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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 12:50:33 PM   
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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 12:58:16 PM   
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The ideals were mutually exclusive: Madonna (of the 50s = housewife) or whore (Ron's preference):


I am content to live in possession of the complex middle ground.

Ron 

I would offer bettie page as a trivial example.

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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 12:58:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		Then, it took more balls than now to go to work. Now, it takes more balls than back then to stay at home.

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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 12:59:05 PM   
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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 1:16:11 PM   
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But of course.

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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 1:18:03 PM   
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pearls and highheels only?
But of course.
Ron


And......... we come full circle........ back to Donna Reed...mmmmmmmmmm

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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 1:33:05 PM   
mnottertail


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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 1:34:57 PM   
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so now Jeff's cooking for you?

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RE: Traditional or 50's Style Relationships - 2/5/2008 1:35:27 PM   
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