Aneirin
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From: Tamaris
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ORIGINAL: andrewmac
There.
Their.
They're.
You wrote, "it is wrong to assume something is pseudo science until all the facts are known." Does that make any sense, even to you?
From my understanding, all the facts are not known. One cannot take what forces and elements we know about and there debunk something the ancients believed in. Perhaps it is we, that is scientists, do not yet know everything. I will keep my personal belief and understanding until I see otherwise based upon logic I can see, not anothers.
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I'm serious, not trying to insult you. You are defending a person with a firm belief in astrology....and your argument in her favor is that astrology hasn't been disproved yet, all the facts are not known. Well, if the facts are not all accounted for, what is the logical basis for the belief?
Does everything have to be logical ? Yes, no etc. Is there not room in life for shades in between, inderterminate values?
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If there isn't enough evidence for DISbelief, is there enough evidence to say, "I'm stubborn because I was born a Scorpio"?
Maybe the understanding that this lady was stubborn, might well have been to do with what others have observed of her and cited her Sun sign. Not saying whoever might have said this knew what they were talking about beyond the simple everyday fun stuff one may find as a space filler in a periodical.
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You cite scientists who have religious beliefs, but I don't know of many well-educated persons whose religion leads them to make assertions that their lives are predetermined in some fashion at birth. I'll take your word for it that they do exist.
Scientists do accept the predetermination that they might age and die, some think that will just be it, others believe something else. A belief based upon the understanding that they do not know everything and may it be, the biggest question as to where one goes when they die , will never be known.
As to 'fortune telling' via astrology, that I have little interest in as I prefer to take life's challenges as they arrive.Astrological pre determination, if it is accurate, may only be accurate for that given time and space. A fraction of time later, everything changes and with that the future.
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No doubt many scientists are ready and eager to test any proof of astrology's validity, should any crop up. I'm not saying for certain that it's bunk, just that the overwhelming evidence says so....leading me to wonder how this person's education let her ignore the facts she was presumably taught.
I would be surprised to find any respected scientific mind got involved in the astrology debate. It like global warming theory is too controversial , if that mind was open to other ideas, saying that might very well be the death of their career down to ridicule.
Has a person's education level mean they have to exclude thought in other directions?
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Thanks for playing. Here's your sign.
Oh, I do wonder what that sign was before it was deleted, obviously something not nice else it would not have been deleted.
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Everything we are is the result of what we have thought, the mind is everything, what we think, we become - Guatama Buddha
Conservatism is distrust of people tempered by fear - William Gladstone
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Yeah, why would anyone care about people embracing ignorance and superstition, or rejecting logic and common sense....what harm has that ever caused?
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