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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 12:20:05 PM   
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When you consider how the young are being dumbed down, you sometimes have to wonder where there is to go.



the young are dumbed down and the old are in denial or invested!  Great combination for success.





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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 12:26:48 PM   
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Hillary is going to have to throw a few bombs around before she is taken seriously



        Rumor has it she's thrown glassware at Bill, but she's stayed with him.  This is where I have concerns about what inner steel she really has.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 12:32:16 PM   
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"is that playing the heavy doesnt necessarily intimidate people but always stiffens their resolve to resist. "   Sort of like smashing planes into our buildings?   Or funding terrorists to screw up a peace deal in a region of vital importance to the world economy?  Those seem like Heavy acts to me. 

Part of the problem (not that I am advocating changing it, it also has many good benefits which outweigh) with having elections and term limits, is that every new government gets tested.



You neo-cons are always finding fault with our Constitution and our form of government.
Kindly stop thinking about it or ways to "improve" it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aD3xfT0c99g&feature=related

2nd time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A09Ha5M82us&feature=related

It`s true.If this were a dictatorship,it would be a heck of a lot easier.Ya know what,I don`t fucking want things to be a heck of a lot easier for people like Bush.

Our founding fathers knew that a dull tool would get into the shed once in a while.That`s why they set things up as they did.Periodic elections are the life`s blood of our nation.

Anyone working against free ,fair and open elections is un-American.Anyone working to limit the people`s right to vote and be counted,works for the devil and all things
un-democratic.

We don`t want dictators for a very very good reason.That`s one of the reasons why our union has lasted as long as it has.


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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 1:04:22 PM   
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that being said... i think the main thing america needs right now is a president who can fix the mess of things INSIDE our country instead of one who's more interested in things outside of it. and i think hillary has the snowball's chance of getting elected. too many people hate her guts irrationally. even really hardcore feminist liberals hate her. she just doesn't have good charisma.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 1:10:13 PM   
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I'm sick and tired of our govt. sending hundreds of billions of our Taxdollars overseas to foreign countries while our infrastructure rots!
We need to be closing embasseys not opening more.
Our govt. just shouldn't be doing that type of thing.
It's as though they couldn't care less what The People want and just go about doing what "they" want to do.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 1:32:59 PM   
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Status: offline 		owner, thank you for giving all of us the vivid example of how you read into things, and mis the entire point.  The same style of comprehension is in all your posts. 

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 1:33:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Personally I would like to see the world step away from Intimidating Force being the modus operandi. I am so bored of folks needing to be 'scared' in order for balance and order to prevail. Bo-ored to tears.



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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 1:34:24 PM   
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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 1:34:36 PM   
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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 1:43:15 PM   
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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 1:45:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Popeye…I’m with you.

It has never been done before but no reason why we can’t build the tallest strongest wall along our borders.

Develop, out of need, our own energy sources. Progress and excel in development of the humane mind and sprit without trying to drag the rest of the degenerate world with us.

Let the UK and France solve all the other world problems…they are so good at giving advice…let them see how good they are at actually doing instead of complaining and judging.

All we would need to do is remain strong because soon the limes and frogs will be begging to join us…. Ha ha we can stand on our wall and throw them advice.

Just in jest and a little overboard…but it is that kind of day here in Kirkwood Mo.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 1:52:18 PM   
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What Bush and his administration have singularly failed to understand I think, is that playing the heavy doesnt necessarily intimidate people but always stiffens their resolve to resist.


That's an interesting statement.  It reminds me of raising my teens.  When a parent gets his/her back up about something a teen is almost guaranteed to dig their heels in even harder against whatever the parent wants.  The parent has to have backbone to state what he/she wants in a reasonable manner, be able to explain why the teen should comply and the consequences not complying.  And those consequences need to be dire, if the parent really want that teen to comply - no car for 6 months if the teen drives w/o a seatbelt or speeds, for example.

With that thought, I can see Obama in the parental role.  He's very good at explaining himself and stating facts.  I'm probably voting for McCain, but if Obama chooses someone other than Clinton for his VP, the choice becomes harder for me. 

I have to disagree that I see Clinton as conciliatory or friendly - I see her as one of the most polarizing figures in the world. 

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 1:54:23 PM   
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Hillary is going to have to throw a few bombs around before she is taken seriously



       Rumor has it she's thrown glassware at Bill, but she's stayed with him.  This is where I have concerns about what inner steel she really has.


Oh, I don't know about that.  I think she has an incredible amount of drive and political hunger, which is why she chose to stay with him.  I don't question her inner steel.  I question what her goals are. 

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 2:04:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		Bound2one, but other nations are not children.  A policy based on treating them as such would be very bad for everyone involved.

Other peole are talking about building a "super wall".  Please study the history of it, the Maginot line, the Great Wall of China, none of them have worked.  The idea that we can withdraw and ignore the world is childish.   We need to have a real debate on how to effectivly deal with the world. 

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 2:07:14 PM   
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Other peole are talking about building a "super wall".  Please study the history of it, the Maginot line, the Great Wall of China, none of them have worked.  The idea that we can withdraw and ignore the world is childish.   We need to have a real debate on how to effectivly deal with the world. 


I think the great wall of China worked like a charm...they seem to be doing just fine today without the rest of the world

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 2:09:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Really? Tell us, then, where China's exports would go if it weren't trading with the rest of the world?

I understand why autarcy appeals to so many of you, but it's an impossibility.

Nothing stops you guys from dreaming on  .

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 2:13:14 PM   
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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 2:18:58 PM   
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This was said on the occasion of Louis XVI's beheading:

We have learnt, a little late no doubt, that for Stats as for individuals' real wealth consists not in acquiring or invading the domains of others, but in developing one's own. We have learnt that all extensions of territory, all usurpations, by force or by fraud, which have long been connected by prejudice with the idea of 'rank', of 'hegemony', of  'political stability', of 'superiority' in the order of the Powers, are only the cruel jests of political lunacy, false estimates of power, and that their real effect is to increase the difficulty of administration and to diminish the happiness and security of the governed for the vanity of those who govern... France ought, therefore, to remain within her own boundaries, she owes it to her glory, to her sense of justice and of reason, to her own interest and to that of the other nations who will become free. 


Charles Maurice de Talleyrand-Périgord
 
I think that we have heard this sort of advice over and over, and never actually attempted it.
 
Enough with this we should talk about how to deal with the rest of the world, that is all we have done.
 
Just like FEMA, after 2 years of study  found that formaldehyde in the trailers could kill people, like that is the first study ever done, or the others were flawed or something new might turn up...Nah, they study  and debate (a euphemism for not doing a fucking thing and hope it goes away).
 
Same here, we need action, we need to focus inward, but not turn exclusively inward.  And work on our interior.

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 2:26:27 PM   
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Same here, we need action, we need to focus inward, but not turn exclusively inward.  And work on our interior.



Faire le ménage chez soi avant d'aller le faire chez les autres, hmmmm? Makes sense.

I still don't know who the 'Crazy Islamic People' are, though: any idea?

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RE: Can Barak "get ghetto?" - 2/17/2008 2:29:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		yes, the ones that you read about in the yellow press, who, having no reason, strap bombs on their ass and walk into our soldiers who occupy and make their country worse, day by day.

Its mystifying why they do it. We are america, we only want to force our good intentions on them.

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